9 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Wait a minute…

 

If they do this, then who will transport the million wealthy foreigners Thailand is expecting any day now? ????

Private Jets of course, 

On November 30, the number of arrivals will have exploded with 52 passengers per day; a convincing success for the "comic band "

See who comes up with the next Brain Wave??

Tourisim is over for at least the next 5 years..

 

25 minutes ago, 10baht said:

No it is not, you do not need to covid test done with in 72 hours of each other. Just get a less expensive fast test on day 3 or 4 after arrival. Remember, every one is vaccinated. Unlike 70+% of Thailand

 

25 minutes ago, 10baht said:

No it is not, you do not need to covid test done with in 72 hours of each other. Just get a less expensive fast test on day 3 or 4 after arrival. Remember, every one is vaccinated. Unlike 70+% of Thailand

I agree, you don't need another rt-pcr after getting one 72 hours, b4 take off, but someone is going to make money out of these tests, the taxi to the hotel and the hotel will probably have above normal rates, when you leave the hotel they give you a portable test kit as well included in the package, which seems like a well planned money grabbing exercise.

My friend paid 12000 Bhat for a taxi(provided by the hotel) from BK MIQ hotel to Sakhon Nakhon, where he lives, he was lucky to get back and never flinched he was just happy to get home

58 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

Appears to me that the aviation sector is in fact very certain people will not be traveling.

Well their forecast aligns with mine.  For some reason it doesn't align with the policy makers of this country. 

4 hours ago, shdmn said:

Because maybe they are not an alcoholic and/or sex addict.  There is a lot more to Thailand than bars and broads.  Even just in Pattaya.  I am sure that will fall on deaf ears to the whiner crowd around here.

Having lived in the greater Pattaya area for 10 years & was visiting the same areas for at least 6 years prior to retiring here, I have seen and done every tourist attraction, temple and the whole of the country your statement holds no water, how many times do I have to go to Nong Nooch gardens, Sanctuary of Truth, Mini Siam, et al ??

 

I have had friends visit us, family visit us, they all demand a guided tour and taxi driver, I am sick to death of people like yourself who blindly state their are plenty of attractions to visit, I've been there, done it & got the T shirt more than once.

3 hours ago, internationalism said:

Even if only some 100k per month do came in 2022 it will be good enough.

I'm assuming you mean 2021 - if they only get 100k in 2022 it will be a unmitigated disaster and less than , 2020, 2021 and moving backwards

Il y a 8 heures, Enzian a dit :

S'ils voulaient revenir à l'époque féodale d'autrefois, comme semblent le souhaiter ceux qui montent au sommet de la pyramide, ils n'auraient pas pu mieux commencer.

T????he feudal period, there are always at least one foot and four toes ...

10 hours ago, webfact said:

International airlines have returned as many as 80% of their airport slots at Thailand’s six international airports between October 31st and March 26th next year

Wait.  Isn't that basically the high season altogether? 

 

So the airlines are certain that Thailand has lost this high season for sure.

 

So until October 2022, tourists will be almost non existent. 

 

 

4 hours ago, StevieAus said:

You don’t have to be an alcoholic to enjoy a drink.

I like an occasional beer and drink wine with dinner.

However I wouldn’t visit a country where that is barred and fortunately where that is the case, I wouldn’t want to visit anyway.

or a country where kissing public is frowned upon

What Thailand really needs is to stop thinking it's a privilege for tourists to come to Thailand and instead be more humble and welcoming, especially when you rely on tourism and foreign investment. What's the point with these extensions every 90 days? Why punish all foreigners just because of a very few bad apples when it's so blatantly obvious it's nothing compared to the actual big issues Thailand has with its own people and doesn't care to do anything about, like road fatalities, murders and corruption, just to mention a fraction of the number of issues Thailand has. Foreigner's bad doings falls far down on the list of concerns Thailand should have, unless racism is high, just saying.

 

It's nothing out of the ordinary with Thailand and most certainly nothing hi-so or opportunistic, so forget about all the nonsense lately with aiming for rich tourists and wealthy investors when you got nothing to offer them. It's as if I invited rich people home to me and offered them a glass of milk. Locals won't benefit from the rich anyway. Appreciate the ones you get before you lose them all and got nothing.

3 minutes ago, HOAX said:

What Thailand really needs is to stop thinking it's a privilege for tourists to come to Thailand and instead be more humble and welcoming, especially when you rely on tourism and foreign investment. What's the point with these extensions every 90 days? Why punish all foreigners just because of a very few bad apples when it's so blatantly obvious it's nothing compared to the actual big issues Thailand has with its own people and doesn't care to do anything about, like road fatalities, murders and corruption, just to mention a fraction of the number of issues Thailand has. Foreigner's bad doings falls far down on the list of concerns Thailand should have, unless racism is high, just saying.

 

It's nothing out of the ordinary with Thailand and most certainly nothing hi-so or opportunistic, so forget about all the nonsense lately with aiming for rich tourists and wealthy investors when you got nothing to offer them. It's as if I invited rich people home to me and offered them a glass of milk. Locals won't benefit from the rich anyway. Appreciate the ones you get before you lose them all and got nothing.

They are going to issue free sacks to cover the sewer grates outside the new condos that these millionaires will be buying up.

students & back packers amount to a very large %( 50%?, just a guess) of tourist numbers and they will not return if medical insurance of 50,000USD is required   

26 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I'm assuming you mean 2021 - if they only get 100k in 2022 it will be a unmitigated disaster and less than , 2020, 2021 and moving backwards

projected for end of this year 90k/month.

It's generous to give 100k per month the next year.

I don't know what figures for the last 10 months were - maybe around 1k per day (30k per month)

10 hours ago, Shuya said:

With the current 'no-quaratine' rules no wonder only a few peoole will come

They might get an average of 9 per international Airport , they should make it 85 baht to uk pound.

1 minute ago, kiwikeith said:

They are going to issue free sacks to cover the sewer grates outside the new condos that these millionaires will be buying up.

No need to as they will remain empty after the Chinese have bought them.

1 hour ago, 10baht said:

No it is not, you do not need to covid test done with in 72 hours of each other. Just get a less expensive fast test on day 3 or 4 after arrival. Remember, every one is vaccinated. Unlike 70+% of Thailand

You need a second test because you have traveled in a plane and has transited in an airport where you have mixed with people from all over the world,

Further more the test before departure is done at a location outside Thailand and as such Thailand has no way to confirm the validity of it . In many countries such as the US, EU, ond the UK you could trust them , but the same can not be said for many other countries.  

Rapid tests are unreliable at both ends of the spectrum , how would you like it if you had a false positive  because you took an unreliable test, and ended up spending several days in quarantine until you got things straightened out. ? Or How would the Thai people like it if the test produced a false negative and we had an infected person released in to the wild? 

No IMO and the opinion of many others the PCR test upon arrival is the best possible option at this juncture,  and unfortunately.. for the number of tests that will be given we will have to wait overnight to get the results. 

Which is not really such a bad thing for most of us. Most of the time when we get  in the afternoon, by the time we clear immigration it's too late to catch a domestic flight to our final destination anyway, and we spend the night in BKK. 

And for most tourist that might be jet lagged, I can think of worst fait than spending a night in BKK or Chiang Mai. 

44 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Show me country where they not put you in quarantine if you tested covid positive!? 

Sadly that is the risk what every traveller have to take now days if travel!

I'll call that and raise you:  Show me one country that puts you in hospital of their choice for 2 weeks at your expense when you are not sick.

 

Seems it is held steady through all this, all over world 85% positive tests are asymptomatic or even very mild.  Positive tests are told to stay home or shelter in place if traveling.  As we know, Thailand has quite different policy......

10 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Wait a minute…

 

If they do this, then who will transport the million wealthy foreigners Thailand is expecting any day now? ????

Why, they will arrive on the wings of angels, naturally

4 hours ago, ftpjtm said:

Why does it make sense to treat tourists who have been vaccined and tested COVID free before a flight filled with persons of similar credentials, as being more of a danger than the general Thai population?

 

If Thailand was COVID free it might make sense, but at this point in time a Thai is far more likely to catch COVID from another Thai than from a vaccined and tested tourist.

 

Stop needlessly decimating the tourist industry. 

I agree that most tourists have more to fear from Thais , as far as covid is concerned , than the other way around. 

But... There is always a But,  LOL

   But, I have read of at least three countries where clinics are under investigation for issuing fake vaccination certificates to people who did not want to be vaccinated. 

How much will you bet that there are many more that have not been discovered yet? 

And even if that was not the case, even though you might have a lot of covid in your country, you want to control the covid that comes in from other countries to limit the influx of other more dangerous variants.    

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

 But, I have read of at least three countries where clinics are under investigation for issuing fake vaccination certificates to people who did not want to be vaccinated. 

Who would care, if you've had yours, you're safe right?

10 hours ago, Tim207 said:

 

Can you elaborate on this? i have not heard anything about it.

No he can't, because it's not true. When people are denied entry it's for very clear reasons. The only problem is travelers not having done their homework and not having everything in order. And if they don't understand what happened then they assign random blame on immigration. The airport has dozens of supplemental employees meeting arrivals and going over their documents before you enter the immigration queue, and are helping rather than hindering entry. No one has any motive or reason to "make up" reasons to deny entry. I've made the trip 3 times since covid. How many times do you think he has? 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Who would care, if you've had yours, you're safe right?

Even those of us that are vaccinated  should care , because we want this thing to resolve and be done with, and we don't want mutations that might reduce our vaccines affectedness, or even make it ineffective. 

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

we want this thing to resolve and be done with

Bad luck, it's here to stay.

"The puritan Prayuth and his merry bunch of CCSA tea sippers are demolishing what is left of the Thai tourist industry brick by brick - why can they not see it"

 

It could be because thy have never had to earn their salary by normal means. ( Doing an honest day's work and knowing what they are doing) and never had to suffer the consequences of being wrong.

1 hour ago, Golden Triangle said:

Having lived in the greater Pattaya area for 10 years & was visiting the same areas for at least 6 years prior to retiring here, I have seen and done every tourist attraction, temple and the whole of the country your statement holds no water, how many times do I have to go to Nong Nooch gardens, Sanctuary of Truth, Mini Siam, et al ??

 

I have had friends visit us, family visit us, they all demand a guided tour and taxi driver, I am sick to death of people like yourself who blindly state their are plenty of attractions to visit, I've been there, done it & got the T shirt more than once.

Welcome to my life in Chiang Mai!  If I never go back to Doi Suthep, elephant camp, and temples with family and friends, it will be too soon.

2 hours ago, poskat said:

TAT is being shown that reality is a harsh mistress

Quite odd actually that the TAT is coming up with such ridiculous numbers and then Thailand imposing such ridiculous restrictions as to make the TAT predictions so ridiculously impossible !

11 hours ago, ukrules said:

They're being richly rewarded for their policy decisions.

 

Airlines were already having issues with people being randomly denied entry in Thailand for weird made up reasons.

Excuse me … Those random made up reasons keep all those hard working policy makers in funds and beer “;0)

Who gives a toss?

10 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Drop the daft entry requirements and the airlines will start coming - airlines it appears have more grip on reality than the TAT.

 

'cause airlines live in the sky and the TAT live in the moon