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Opinion: Rubber glove scandal a national embarrassment in the making

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5 hours ago, pookiki said:

"It was not the government but a bunch of crooks."   And one can only wonder how we are supposed to tell the difference!

The header photo must be crooks. None are wearing wings and the lady has more medals than the men. And what government would employ individuals such as the Khun Sumo on the far left? ????

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  • "It was not the government but a bunch of crooks."   And one can only wonder how we are supposed to tell the difference!

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    National embarrassment or just the norm for Thailand? ????

  • NanaSomchai
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    No national embarassment no... embarassment would require one to have manners, ethics and "have a face" to begin with of which the Thais have neither.

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5 hours ago, NanaSomchai said:

No national embarassment no... embarassment would require one to have manners, ethics and "have a face" to begin with of which the Thais have neither.

I think your post is an embarrassment to all expats here. The majority of Thai's are good people and will be sickened, just as much as we are, by this. 

I honestly fail to see how the action of a few crooks sum up to national embarrassment! 
 

Thailand urgently needs to get off the “losing face” train! 

While I think that the US government should bring as much force to Bear upon this situation as diplomatically possible there is evidence of extreme laziness in its own due diligence.

 

I think pretty much anyone that follows the news is well aware of all of the rubber glove busts, both small factories washing processing and repackaging gloves, as well as mask scams. This has been going on since covid broke and government officials have definitely been implicated in much of it.

 

The US government both the embassy and the US chamber of commerce is obviously asleep at the switch. They should not have been buying these gloves from Thailand but perhaps from Malaysia or Indonesia.

4 hours ago, shady86 said:

I thought embarrassment or shame do not exist on Thai Vocab? 

Add legitimacy, ethics and honour (honor) to the growing list.

37 minutes ago, alien365 said:

I think your post is an embarrassment to all expats here. The majority of Thai's are good people and will be sickened, just as much as we are, by this. 

I'm not the least embarrassed by free speech, even if not completely factual. This is about the corrupt minority, just as when a solitary foreigner commits a crime and the media labels the innocent and law abiding along with the guilty on the basis of nationality.

I watched the CNN report, interesting, obviously been going on for some time. The government response is what you might expect, on the other hand I'm a little surprised that this hasn't been classified as "fake news"

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

just be glad they are not re-used rubbers.

Yes indeed, but it did happen in Vietnam back in September 2020:-

Vietnamese police have seized more than 320,000 used condoms that were to be illegally resold to unsuspecting customers, local media report.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54284355

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2 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Yes indeed, but it did happen in Vietnam back in September 2020:-

Vietnamese police have seized more than 320,000 used condoms that were to be illegally resold to unsuspecting customers, local media report.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54284355

My apologise .

295,000 were picked up at my condo.

A company, who maybe, doesn't have an agent overseas buys something. When it arrives. it is not what they expected. 

How does this evolve into a potential international incident?

9 hours ago, pookiki said:

"It was not the government but a bunch of crooks."   And one can only wonder how we are supposed to tell the difference!

My guess would be look who's wearing a uniform.

9 hours ago, tonray said:

I'd bet the OA visa holders are behind this hideous plot. Starting next year all OA visa extensions must be accompanied by a insurance policy against fraudulent gloves, available at your local insuance company for a smalll fee

oh so I get the gloves as well but for a small fee ???  

1 hour ago, RafPinto said:

My apologise .

295,000 were picked up at my condo.

you've been busy then ?

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Dirty gloves.

 

It's been going on for ages.

 

I remember when Thammanats aides were caught exporting masks to China when you couldn't get masks or paid a kings ransom for them on Facebook.

 

Wonderful government.

 

 

.....and we've seemed to miss the larger picture of what a truer prioritized national embarrassment might be. 

Largely applies to crack "journalists" who chase down trivial tabloid-like pursuits, who, in turn, don't recognize it in themselves.  

 

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Why would the Thai government be embarrassed.....?
 

It was the US who ordered millions in medical grade equipment from a company called Paddy the Room.

I thought all the crooks were the Muppets trying to run the country as corruption is the normal way of doing business here.

On 10/26/2021 at 2:50 PM, Orinoco said:

Just wait until they get round to condoms :shock1:. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL.

 

 

It's probably already happening they just haven't been caught yet.

Or perhaps there smaller sizes are not in demand off shore.

On 10/26/2021 at 9:23 PM, HeijoshinCool said:

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Why would the Thai government be embarrassed.....?
 

It was the US who ordered millions in medical grade equipment from a company called Paddy the Room.

From the linked CNN article:

 

(Douglas) Stein, who has built up a following of buyers and sellers on LinkedIn, often finds himself counseling people who lost millions of dollars to nitrile glove fraud and trying to talk people out of signing deals that are clearly too good to be true. He says the discounts on offer are often impossibly steep.

 

The inspection company whose report (that claimed that the gloves provided by Paddy were of high quality) had been falsified confirmed to CNN that the reports were forgeries.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/24/health/medical-gloves-us-thailand-investigation-cmd-intl/index.html

 

 

56 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:
On 10/26/2021 at 9:23 PM, HeijoshinCool said:

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Why would the Thai government be embarrassed.....?
 

It was the US who ordered millions in medical grade equipment from a company called Paddy the Room.

From the linked CNN article:

 

(Douglas) Stein, who has built up a following of buyers and sellers on LinkedIn, often finds himself counseling people who lost millions of dollars to nitrile glove fraud and trying to talk people out of signing deals that are clearly too good to be true. He says the discounts on offer are often impossibly steep.

 

The inspection company whose report (that claimed that the gloves provided by Paddy were of high quality) had been falsified confirmed to CNN that the reports were forgeries.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/24/health/medical-gloves-us-thailand-investigation-cmd-intl/index.html

 

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What's CNN?

 

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9 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

The Source of the investigation.

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On 10/26/2021 at 4:09 PM, alien365 said:

I think your post is an embarrassment to all expats here. The majority of Thai's are good people and will be sickened, just as much as we are, by this. 

Has this even made the local Thai language news? 

Then there was this from last year. 

 

The Thai government is opening an embezzlement investigation into an order placed with a local company for 112.5 billion baht worth of surgical gloves. The Public Warehouse Organisation’s administrative office director allegedly signed off on the order without approval.

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/thai-government-opens-fraud-investigation-over-112-5-billion-baht-glove-purchase

On 10/25/2021 at 5:00 PM, jvs said:

I hope the USA demands a full investigation and not accept this to be swept under the carpet

like so many other things.

Normally investigations go as far as they are allowed to go and some minor people

are sacrificed.

Dig deep!Follow the money all the way to the end.

 

The US Embassy in Bangkok has an FBI element residing within, it should be allowed to conduct the Investigation since the crime was against a US Company...........but we all know that will never happen.

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