Why We Long-time Farang Will Never Leave Thailand.....

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

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It's the first thing you learn in engineering

 

Right, it's usually the folk that don't plan for the what ifs that get phvced by the what ifs.

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Led Lolly Yellow Lolly

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

25 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

setting ones self up for a self fulfilling prophecy.

Failing health IS a reality of life, not a self fulfilling be prophecy. I'm still relatively fit but my breakdancing days are over.

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Led Lolly Yellow Lolly

[sirineou]

9 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Engineering design intent, as it relates specifically to functionality, 

And why would it not  apply to one's functionality in old age? Wouldn't one want to engineer a healthy . wealthy and long life?  

 

PS: to your quotes of Benjamin Franklin in your signature you might want to ad the following. ????

"“If You Fail to Plan, You Are Planning to Fail” — Benjamin Franklin "

Edited December 7, 2021 by sirineou

[Tippaporn]

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

And why would it not  apply to one's functionality in old age? Wouldn't one want to engineer a healthy . wealthy and long life?  

Is a healthy, wealthy and long life something that can be engineered as an end product or is it more a matter of choice (witting or unwitting)?

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Is a healthy, wealthy and long life something that can be engineered as an end product or is it more a matter of choice (witting or unwitting)?

aren't choices an integral part of engineering? 

[Tippaporn]

9 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

Failing health IS a reality of life, not a self fulfilling be prophecy. I'm still relatively fit but my breakdancing days are over.

 

 

 

There's no denying that failing health is a reality for many folks.  And old age isn't the only condition for it to occur.  What exactly is a self fulfilling prophecy and how does it work precisely?  Drilling down into that question would be revealing and my reply would then make more sense.

[sirineou]

9 hours ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

Failing health IS a reality of life, not a self fulfilling be prophecy. I'm still relatively fit but my breakdancing days are over.

 

 

 

The person you are responding too is obviously a young guy who has no clue about the challenges of old age,

May his telomeres   stay long forever ????

[Tippaporn]

27 minutes ago, sirineou said:

aren't choices an integral part of engineering? 

They're certainly an integral part of life, and I would say that would encompass engineering.  So if choices are an integral part of engineering then would they not also be an integral part in determining ones future experience?  And whether or not that future experience would or would not include the 'what if' scenarios the poster has highlighted?

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Tippaporn

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

They're certainly an integral part of life, and I would say that would encompass engineering.  So if choices are an integral part of engineering then would they not also be an integral part in determining ones future experience.  And whether or not that future experience would or would not include the 'what if' scenarios the poster has highlighted?

Don't informed choices require what if questions? 

[jerrymahoney]

And although he wasn't the first to say it:

 

John Lennon -- Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans.

[Tippaporn]

21 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Don't informed choices require what if questions? 

Whether informed or not informed can propitious choices be made without 'what if' questions?  A single example showing that to be true would be enough to answer that question.  I would say that 'what if' questions are not an absolute requirement in order to make beneficial choices but the process can indeed involve 'what if' questions.  It can work both ways IMHO.

 

Are we getting too deep in the weeds here?  I don't want to wander too far off my point that there's a definite distinction between 'what if' questions which more likely than not have answers, as it pertains to engineering, and 'what if' questions which really have no discernable answer.

Asking the longwinded "What if I were to come down with Parkinson's and I don't have enough money to provide care for myself, say twenty years down the road, give or take a decade, should I start ruminating about whether or not the country I'm living in currently is a country which would provide me a safety net if, Heaven forbid, this calamity would come to pass as reality and perhaps it would be prudent for me to now relocate?" is silly at best.  If someone were to ask your advice on this what would you respond with?

 

My response would be, "Well, it depends . . . ."  Actually, my response would be, "Don't hurry, don't worry, and don't forget to smell the flowers," at which point I would be confronted with an utter blank stare at what I aver to be sage advice.

[Harveyboy]

On 12/7/2021 at 11:04 AM, Johnny Mac said:

Turn it in mate, the UK is dull and Thailand isn't?? Laughable. Men in the UK avoid going shopping at all costs, here it's one of the highlights of the week. Nothing to do here, but you carry on kidding yourself.

try starting a family..try traveling each weekend..beach one week camping another ect ect ..i think you need to get a life sir ..i live and worked on countries around the world..and in telling you UK and France in fact a large part of Europe has become a cesspool..you go live there  I'm fine  here 

[zzaa09]

10 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

And although he wasn't the first to say it:

 

John Lennon -- Life is what happens when you are busy making other plans.

....and forced to play their game. 

The definitive of failure.

[Expat68]

Never say never!!

[Johnny Mac]

On 12/7/2021 at 5:37 PM, PaoloR said:

You must be a very boring and, to judge from your posts, sad person. Only dull people live dull lives, wherever they are.

Went for a run on the beach with my dog first thing this morning. Then took my motorbike 50 km through the gorgeous countryside from Krabi to Lam Thap to feed my cows and check on my farms. Late lunch by the river in Krabi town on the way home.

Back home now with my beautiful girlfriend deciding where we would like to go this evening or just chill at home.

 

 

 

WOW...you went to eat something, amazing stuff. You went for a ride on your bike, another wow, fed the cows LOL, and in the evening did nothing. Thanks for confirming what I said. Boring as hell. You clearly have no idea what a proper day out is, I doubt you have had one for decades. Enjoy your cows and erh eating.

[shackleton]

We all have our reasons for being here in Thailand  retired family  and what ever reasons 

You make your bed and lie in it

I enjoy being here in Thailand people food weather scenery and so on 

Always remain positive no what ever comes at you 

Enjoy life 

 

[Hummin]

On 12/7/2021 at 5:37 PM, PaoloR said:

You must be a very boring and, to judge from your posts, sad person. Only dull people live dull lives, wherever they are.

Went for a run on the beach with my dog first thing this morning. Then took my motorbike 50 km through the gorgeous countryside from Krabi to Lam Thap to feed my cows and check on my farms. Late lunch by the river in Krabi town on the way home.

Back home now with my beautiful girlfriend deciding where we would like to go this evening or just chill at home.

 

I have lived and worked in Europe, America, Central America, China, Asia. Nowhere was dull.

 

Dullness is a state of mind not always related to where you are, but who you are.

 

Sounds like how I live, a good life, except no cows and no beach where I live, but free to travel as often we want. 

 

Life gets boring if you do not have anything that makes you get up in the morning,   some kind of responsibility. Living here because of the nightlife? That's kind of a slow suicide of boredom ????

[Neeranam]

Who is Grace Kelly and why should she never have left Philly? 

 

Who is Philly? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Neeranam

[shackleton]

Well that's bad news my last couple of trips back to the UK 

We're with British Airways 

First class service with both the booking personnel and airline staff

Even had a upgrade to Business class on the trip back  to Bangkok from London 

[Neeranam]

On 12/6/2021 at 6:42 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

We do our best to learn the language.

Rubbish, I've only met a few foreigners who are fluent in Thai, in nearly 3 decades here. 

On the other hand, I know and have known countless ones who have been here 10 years and can't have a simple conversation, needing to drag their wives everywhere with them to communicate. I asked two colleagues what month it was in Thai,neither knew, despite having lived here for 20 and 25 years. It's very sad actually. 

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

neither knew, despite having lived here for 20 and 25 years. It's very sad actually. 

We all are here temporarily, and none of us expected to stay longer than two weeks! 

 

Is either gf don't want us to understand, or we do not want to understand!? 

 

I choosed not to understand, less worries and less headache. Simple as that! My gf never let me walk alone, so,,, no worries

[jerrymahoney]

On 12/8/2021 at 5:31 PM, zzaa09 said:

....and forced to play their game. 

The definitive of failure.

John Lennon was a failure?

[GammaGlobulin]

8 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Who is Grace Kelly and why should she never have left Philly? 

 

Who is Philly? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grace was the most superbly beautiful filly anyone has ever known.

Her father raced single sculls in Philly.

Life can't get much better than this, I suppose.

 

Sort of like a Fairy Tale, but real.

 

Would you not say?

 

 

[zzaa09]

We......

[GammaGlobulin]

19 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Rubbish, I've only met a few foreigners who are fluent in Thai, in nearly 3 decades here. 

On the other hand, I know and have known countless ones who have been here 10 years and can't have a simple conversation, needing to drag their wives everywhere with them to communicate. I asked two colleagues what month it was in Thai,neither knew, despite having lived here for 20 and 25 years. It's very sad actually. 

In fact...

 

One of the most difficult challenges in Thai is to learn...

 

a. Days of the week

b.  Months of the year.

c. And, especially, how to tell time in Thai.

 

For one thing, the Thai clock is very strange to foreigners.

 

The easiest way is to just use the 24h clock, and nalika.

 

Or, use the more correct way, which is to use NungTomeKrung for 7:30 PM.

 

One of my favorite tunes, even today, is a song about time....

 

Maybe you have heard this song, too....?

 

Just a song, a sad song, as you say, about time....enjoy....

 

 

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

One of the most difficult challenges in Thai is to learn...

 

a. Days of the week

b.  Months of the year.

c. And, especially, how to tell time in Thai.

I disagree,  a 4 year old can learn this.

Days are very easy, months are useful as the ending tells us how many days are in the month.

Should take no longer than a week to learn days. No longer than a year to learn months. That's one new word a month!

[zzaa09]

Nah...

Not buying it.

[gargamon]

Why We Long-time Farang Will Never Leave Thailand.....

 

Many of those who don't leave stay because they can't afford to. They are "all in", having sold everything they owned in their home countries, maybe bought a condo, and have little to no resources to move even if they admitted they wanted to.

 

These people will criticize anyone who says anything bad about Thailand, saying it's all perfect when in fact they are living in a hole they dug for themselves that only death will get them out.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

1 minute ago, gargamon said:

Why We Long-time Farang Will Never Leave Thailand.....

 

Many of those who don't leave stay because they can't afford to. They are "all in", having sold everything they owned in their home countries, maybe bought a condo, and have little to no resources to move even if they admitted they wanted to.

 

These people will criticize anyone who says anything bad about Thailand, saying it's all perfect when in fact they are living in a hole they dug for themselves that only death will get them out.

 

 

I am sorry, but I really cannot agree with your thinking.

 

This view seems anything but the truth.

[gargamon]

3 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I am sorry, but I really cannot agree with your thinking.

 

This view seems anything but the truth.

It took 30 seconds for you to respond to my post(at 12:30 am). Do you have an alarm set to wake you up when someone replies to any of your threads? Or do you need to respond immediately so your post shows up in the "latest posts" list and thereby hiding the dissenting opinion?

 

Anyway, back to the topic. The fervor you exhibit in defending your position indicates to me that you are likely one of the "all ins" and have few other options.