Got Covid - Doing Quarantine At Home?

[tandor]

On 1/1/2022 at 5:55 PM, JustAnotherHun said:

First thing to do after an ATK test is positive would be to repeat the test a few hours later once or twice.

The false rate on ATK (+ or -) is very high.

I never would report myself after just one ATK.

...depends when you are shedding virus; what day you are at of infection. To accurately tell you would need a PCR Test. None of us know what you and your partner's underlying health condition is, or your medical history; so no-one can advise you one way or the other. You decide. Saying that, i wish both a speedy recovery.

[ronjomtien]

On 1/1/2022 at 5:17 PM, grain said:

I seriously doubt your condo management will be cool with this. In all likelihood they'll report you and you'll be forced into 14 days Q at an expense. If me I'd just sweat it out at home and tell nobody. Can't your GF call some friends and have them buy a bunch of packs of mama and some bread and whatever and leave it outside your door? That's what I would do. All the best and let us know how it goes.

Don't ask, don't tell.

[vandeventer]

On 1/1/2022 at 5:18 PM, HashBrownHarry said:

I would stay in and tell no one.

9 out of 10 you got Omicron and soon we all will have Omicron so stay at home with your GF and order in, The more people you tell the more people will say go to the hospital.

[ronjomtien]

Just now, ronjomtien said:

Don't ask, don't tell.

Stop ordering food, just cook yourself, everyone has a pantry and frig full of food, just make do even if its old stuff. If you have a friend have them drop off food. Leave it on table near condo office, go down late at night with mask and gloves and Dettol to spray after you touch any button. Not tell condo mgmt or you will be banned forever. This is serious now, my two girlfriends are already in 10 days quarantine (free for Thais). It's coming soon the lockdown. I have it and had three vaccines. Sometimes you need to buy tests, go out at night with gloves and mask to 7/11 quick and back. No dawdling. Isolation is a drag. Go for a bike ride alone at 2am in the backwoods.

[PeachCH]

On 1/1/2022 at 7:04 PM, Crossy said:

 

Isn't that what he said?

 

Probably depends on the condo's Covid-19 politics. In our condo, we have to let them know immediately. If cases not too severe, we have to be in Quarantine for 14 days. The guards are in charge of the food supply. A chair has to be placed outside the room, where the food will be placed. Same rule for the waste. Since 2 years we had 45 cases. (Condo, 42 floors in Manila) 

[wmlc]

What a selfish thing to do!!! Part of the reporting is the contact tracing to find out who else was infected. What if you infected someone who then went to their home and infected their grandmother who then passes away due to covid because she is older. Your insurance covers it so you are being selfish along with all the others in this post who have commented. I’m sorry to say this but it’s true. All just to feel more comfortable!!???? I’m sorry but this had to be said. 

Edited January 3, 2022 by wmlc

[JayBird]

It's a sad circumstance when the punishment for being positive is so high you consider hiding the fact.

 

You can try to order stuff from 7, pay through app, and ask to leave at door as you'll be out at time of delivery.

[4MyEgo]

On 1/1/2022 at 10:09 PM, steven100 said:

which condo is it ....   we'll bring you some food   

Your funny....NOT

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, JayBird said:

It's a sad circumstance when the punishment for being positive is so high you consider hiding the fact.

 

You can try to order stuff from 7, pay through app, and ask to leave at door as you'll be out at time of delivery.

It's sad but it's a reality unless they approve of home isolation this will be something many people will do. 

 

I would say home isolation is only feasable if you have enough food or if you can have it delivered in front of your door. I can understand that not every condo wants this as there are plenty of irresponsible people who would still walk through the common areas to get food and stuff. 

 

However, if people really stay at their place, then it should be good, but the fear is still there. It's a lot less if someone lives in a home because then he / she is not a significant risk to others as its more separated (unless of course you really stay in your room in a condominium). But of course, this depends also on the other owners. 

 

One of the benefits of being in home not a condominium. 

 

Its always irresponsible people who destroy options like this for those of us who are responsible. 

[4MyEgo]

On 1/1/2022 at 11:14 PM, scubascuba3 said:

If we did a poll i reckon 90% wouldn't go to hospital unless very sick. We know we'd get milked for as much as possible

Agreed, and I figure that if I did get this Omicron variant which every professional in their field of expertise is saying we ALL will, and are also saying there isn't much to worry about as its a cold/flu, e.g. it infects the upper respiratory area like a cold/flu and doesn't go the lungs like Delta does/did, albeit Omicron spreads super faster, so I wouldn't tell Jack, and wouldn't go to the hospital unless I thought I couldn't fight it after a day or two at the most.

 

That said, I had a chest infection a few years back and if it was anything like that I would be out of the front door in no time as opposed to listening to the local Dr and government hospital Dr and government specialist who kept telling me it was the flu and that I was at the tail end of it getting better, this was two weeks on and two courses of antibiotics and my condition was getting much worse as I know myself as you know yourself.

 

As for getting milked by the hospitals, that's why we hedge our bets and take out private cover and all costs would be paid by the insurer, or self insure if you can't get private cover for whatever reason or choose not to take it out, although it's not about the costs to me, it's about being away from my family and isolated, although from my experience with the previous severe chest infection I would feel safer being treated in the private hospital, (once bitten, twice shy), but unless I really had too, I wouldn't got, so let's hope when Omicron knocks on our door it's smiling, and says as the nurse says, this won't hurt at all ????

 

Look up cross immunity, as a recent study from a South African University has stated that our own immune systems recognise Omicron and the B and T cells go to work on bringing it down as they have other Coronavirus variants in the past.

 

If you haven't already started taking taken Vitamin D, Zink, getting 20 minutes sun, eating a good diet, lowering you alcohol consumption, add some exercise into it if you can, then you can keep getting those boosters which will get your antibodies up, doing both isn't a bad idea if you want absolute cover.

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by 4MyEgo

[NoshowJones]

On 1/1/2022 at 5:20 PM, TheMysteriousMrTesla said:

Yes, I'm with the others, tell no one!!

 

They WILL have you hauled off for a PCR test and if +ve you will be incarcerated.

 

By all means inform the condo people and Grab to leave the stuff outside because YOU are scared of CATCHING covid!

 

Do not inform the condo people.

[NoshowJones]

On 1/1/2022 at 5:44 PM, HashBrownHarry said:

Someone i know thought they had food poisoning so went to hospital, while there a Covid test was taken.

 

He went home and then got a call the next morning saying they were coming to take him away, and sure enough they did - 10 days in hospital....no thanks!

and many thousands of Baht out of pocket, I never thought there were so many greedy thieving lowlifes in the Medical and Pharmacists profession on this planet until this Cvirus came along.

[wmlc]

This thread just proves what all of us know already. It’s very sad to see all the selfishness come out in the open like this. The OP even said he has insurance. He is just hiding it out of convenience and for no other reason. I say again, what about the contact tracing and the possibility of someone he came in contact with infecting someone older who might die or become seriously sick? For what ? So the OP can be more comfortable? What is this world coming to? 

[HashBrownHarry]

7 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

and many thousands of Baht out of pocket, I never thought there were so many greedy thieving lowlifes in the Medical and Pharmacists profession on this planet until this Cvirus came along.

Initially they wanted to carry out all sorts of tests and wanted 20K per night, he refused, told them he had no money.

 

Think he ended up with his insurance covering it.

[NoshowJones]

On 1/1/2022 at 6:44 PM, blackcab said:

 

Answer: Yes, and your feet won't touch the ground it will happen so quick.

 

Make sure you have substantial funds in place to pay for your hospitalisation.

and what if he doesn't have enough funds to pay? There are lots of decent people in this country who like me only keep enough for living expenses with their main money in there own country's bank, so is it Jail, deportation or what?

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[AMFWolfie]

Thai step son tested positive over 8 days ago although coughing and sneezing several days before but was showing negative at the time. Was in his room isolating from the moment he tested positive and has been ever since. Only symptoms was like a cold but then again had double vax and is only 23. Thai step daughter tested positive 3 days later, again double vaxed but with no symptoms at all and 32 years old. Still isolating even though 5 days on lateral flow showing negative now. Both kids have rooms away from the main house and were banned from entering and both ordered from wherever they fancied, paid on line and was delivered to the gate with no contact with the outside world. New Year day I tested positive and although double vaxed and 3rd booster all from the UK, feels like a flu with cough, sore throat and usual runny nose and generally unwell but then again a lot older and a smoker so you could say my own fault. Wife tested negative evey day including today and still runs the business even though 80% staff have all tested positive and remain self isolating.  That said, all Thai nationals isolate at home and did/do not go to hospital (unless seriously ill) and easily order food for home delivery and seems to be generally accepted but does make a total mockery of the numbers of infected with Covid and which variant they have in Pattaya which is considerably higher than any official figures on record because no government RT-PCR testing was easily available to them or us. Our only option is pay to have a test in a private hospital and end up doing 10 days in that hospital at our own expense for what basically is a heavy head cold or flu at best. 

 

Personally tell no one in authority anything and sit it out if you can and get the GF to order for you paying on line. I for one would rather stay home self isolating, fending for myself rather than be in hospital at THB 25,000 a day!!

[blackcab]

20 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

and what if he doesn't have enough funds to pay? There are lots of decent people in this country who like me only keep enough for living expenses with their main money in there own country's bank, so is it Jail, deportation or what?

 

That's a really good question, and unfortunately I don't know the answer.

 

If this really were the case my best advice would be:

 

1. Tell the hospital immediately that you cannot pay and that you do not have any money. Keep telling them that.

 

2. Do not give the hospital your passport. They will ask for it at some point or other to "check".

 

At some point this scenario might well end up on YouTube or in the news.

[rabas]

 

I just discussed the issue with my condo (20 stories off Chaengwattana), where I get the truth because I am the acting committee president.

 

You can self isolate in a condo unit and the condo is bound to assist with food etc. if the health authorities decide home isolation is reasonable in said case. IOW, the condo cannot deny you but you are expected to notify the condo and the public health authorities.

 

So the next question is, how are public health authorities handling Omicron. Our condo manager suggested they are allowing home isolation but we have had no recent cases.

 

You might ask a Thai friend to call around to local hospitals to ask about policy.

 

Edited January 3, 2022 by rabas

[bradiston]

52 minutes ago, wmlc said:

This thread just proves what all of us know already. It’s very sad to see all the selfishness come out in the open like this. The OP even said he has insurance. He is just hiding it out of convenience and for no other reason. I say again, what about the contact tracing and the possibility of someone he came in contact with infecting someone older who might die or become seriously sick? For what ? So the OP can be more comfortable? What is this world coming to? 

Its senses

Edited January 3, 2022 by bradiston

[Ganoga]

I wouldn't tlike anyone you have covid.

 

This is a new updatefrom the US CDC website, Dec, 27 2021

 

QUOTE: Given what we currently know about COVID-19 and the Omicron variant, CDC is shortening the recommended time for isolation for the public. People with COVID-19 should isolate for 5 days and if they are asymptomatic or their symptoms are resolving (without fever for 24 hours), follow that by 5 days of wearing a mask when around others to minimize the risk of infecting people they encounter. The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after.

Link to page:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1227-isolation-quarantine-guidance.html

[wombat]

On 1/1/2022 at 5:00 PM, TudorBkk said:

Haven't left my room since and do not intend to.

tell them nothing.3 days and its gone

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[Mac Mickmanus]

Coincidentally , I just entered my Condo and there was a Thai guy with a bag of food in his hand , he spoke to another Thai guy on the telephone and he said "Leave it on the black car" and he left the food on the car .

   I waited for a few minutes and a Thai woman came downstairs and collected the food 

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, tandor said:

...depends when you are shedding virus; what day you are at of infection. To accurately tell you would need a PCR Test. None of us know what you and your partner's underlying health condition is, or your medical history; so no-one can advise you one way or the other. You decide. Saying that, i wish both a speedy recovery.

"I never would report myself after just one ATK."  I would not report myself at all unless I was dying, just another reason to only keep your living expenses in this soldiers Banana Republic.

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, wmlc said:

This thread just proves what all of us know already. It’s very sad to see all the selfishness come out in the open like this. The OP even said he has insurance. He is just hiding it out of convenience and for no other reason. I say again, what about the contact tracing and the possibility of someone he came in contact with infecting someone older who might die or become seriously sick? For what ? So the OP can be more comfortable? What is this world coming to? 

What is the world coming to? This thread shows what the real world situation is in regard to Omicron.  Self-isolation is practical and understandable.  

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"I never would report myself after just one ATK."  I would not report myself at all unless I was dying, just another reason to only keep your living expenses in this soldiers Banana Republic.

So if your really sick you go to the hospital but have no funds ? Or would you then make sure you have the money ready ?

 

Because you said you had no money or don't want to pay. So you would not even pay if you were sick and go there yourself.

 

Or to have a valid heath insurance. 

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, wmlc said:

What a selfish thing to do!!! Part of the reporting is the contact tracing to find out who else was infected. What if you infected someone who then went to their home and infected their grandmother who then passes away due to covid because she is older. Your insurance covers it so you are being selfish along with all the others in this post who have commented. I’m sorry to say this but it’s true. All just to feel more comfortable!!???? I’m sorry but this had to be said. 

"What a selfish thing to do!!!" and what about the greedy lowlifes that run the hospitals and Pharmacies etc? Taking thousands of us just because we are farangs.

[mommysboy]

if everyone who gets Omicron is forced in to hospital or quarantine facilities, there'll be more people locked up than free.  

[NoshowJones]

11 minutes ago, robblok said:

So if your really sick you go to the hospital but have no funds ? Or would you then make sure you have the money ready ?

 

Because you said you had no money or don't want to pay. So you would not even pay if you were sick and go there yourself.

 

Or to have a valid heath insurance. 

I don't mind paying a fair price Rob, but 100K-200K upwards? No way.

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I don't mind paying a fair price Rob, but 100K-200K upwards? No way.

So you want to use the service and dictate price. That is like going into a supermarket taking some beers and then throwing some money on the counter and saying that is all that i will pay.

 

They call it theft.

 

You already know you don't want to pay but you still use the service. IMHO that a bit hypocrite. Then don't go to a hospital and take your chances.

 

You have no clue what a fair price is, that depends a lot on what medicine they use if your on a breathing machine and in ICU. So for you to dictate a price...... sorry Possum I don't agree.

If your not willing to pay and you know it before then i feel its theft.

[jak2002003]

11 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

if everyone who gets Omicron is forced in to hospital or quarantine facilities, there'll be more people locked up than free.  

Yes. Going to be interesting times soon. Everyone running about like headless chickens and panicking about getting something like a bad cold.

 

Sick of all this now.  The Omicron is far less serious than the normal strain of covid.  I get the impression that many people get some pleasure about being scared of it, and many rich people are profiting from it.