Thailand's COVID-19 cases continue to surge with 8,263 new cases

[Willy Wombat]

28 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Meaningless unless you compare it to something.  Could be worse, could be better.

 

What's the death rate vs Delta?

Also

How old were they ?

Vaccinated or not ?

Any underlying health issues ?

[mommysboy]

11 minutes ago, Willy Wombat said:

Also

How old were they ?

Vaccinated or not ?

Any underlying health issues ?

40% of hospitalizations in UK are incidental: not the main reason people are there. 

 

ICU cases are almost always unvaccinated.

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by mommysboy

[Eric Loh]

World is reeling from the Omicron onslaught. All the past hard work to tame the pandemic will have to be repeated. Vaccine inequality worldwide will need the assistance of rich nations. 
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/world-passes-300-million-covid-19-cases-omicron-breaks-records-2422106

[Bluetongue]

OK while deaths are still mounting world wide, the 7 day average is less than it has been since October 2020 (worldometer). How many of the current deaths are Delta? Must be some. NSW reports that 74% of ICU admissions since 16 December are Delta. As we know Delta was on the rise in the UK before Omicron, it had never been controlled in the US. Not all is complete doom, yet. In any case what do the doomsayers want?, back to another communist style complete lockdown is what I think they want, they wont say that though, why I wouldn't know.

[BangkokReady]

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

World is reeling from the Omicron onslaught.

Doesn't seem that way.

 

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

All the past hard work to tame the pandemic will have to be repeated.

Not just get boosters as already expected?

 

13 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Vaccine inequality worldwide will need the assistance of rich nations.

Did it not previously?

[LosLobo]

51 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

In UK, the death rate appears very low. We really need a bit of proportion and context here. 

 

Also in the UK, the unsung hero appears to be AZ, due its T cell protection, and that may bode well for Thailand too.  It really is a life saver for old people, and possibly the best overall.

 

I believe Thais are more accessible to public health advice, and this combined with some regulation may keep cases down to around 50k a day imo, compared with 170k in UK and some European countries.

I read that yet to be peer- reviewed study about AZ and T cell protection with interest. The world is in booster mode at the moment to combat Omicron and mRNA boosters seem to be the booster of choice. I wonder if AZ is being groundlessly sidelined.

 

AstraZeneca vaccine booster works against Omicron, Oxford lab study finds | Reuters

 

Australia with a population of only 25M is now getting 100k cases a day with a 40% infection rate, though real cases could be double that due  to a broken testing system. 

 

I would suggest Thailand would be very lucky to only have 25k/day with three times OZ's population.

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by LosLobo

[worrab]

No report from 6th Jan but we have this one with a rise from the 39 reported then.

 

Health officials on Friday (Jan 7) reported 54 new COVID-19 cases, 33 of which were found in Hua Hin.

Elsewhere in the province, 2 cases were found in Pranburi, zero in Sam Roi Yot, zero cases in Kuiburi, 4 cases in Thap Sakae, 3 cases in Bang Saphan, 1 case in Bang Saphan Noi, and 11 cases in Mueang Prachuap Khiri Khan. No new deaths were reported today.

A cluster from the male surgery wards at Hua Hin Hospital has a cumulative total of 23 cases.

 

https://www.huahintoday.com/hua-hin-news/jan-7-prachuap-reports-54-new-covid-19-cases-33-cases-in-hua-hin/

[Bkk Brian]

40 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Omicron could be even less deadly than flu

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10358361/Omicron-nearly-100-TIMES-deadly-seasonal-flu-scientists-believe.html

The message still has to be get jabbed and boosted despite these suggestions although it seems to be a good estimate at the moment for the UK

 

"Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, an epidemiologist at the University of Wollongong in Australia, told MailOnline his 'very rough best guess' was that triple-jabbed people were at the same risk from Omicron as they are from the flu. 'Add the new medications into the mix and it gets even more complex,' he added.

But scientists today leaped on the estimates, saying it was more proof that the worst days of the pandemic were over and that Britain needs to get back on the path to normality. 

 

Professor Robert Dingwall, a former JCVI member of and expert in sociology at Nottingham Trent University, told MailOnline it will be a few weeks until there are definitive Omicron fatality rates, but if they are consistent with the findings that it is less severe 'we should be asking whether we are justified in having any measures we would not bring for a bad flu season'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10358361/Omicron-nearly-100-TIMES-deadly-seasonal-flu-scientists-believe.html

[dinsdale]

Just seen alcohol ban in the 69 orange zones starting tomorrow. This is complete madness. Didn't happen with Delta but happening with Omicron. 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by dinsdale

[anchadian]

Omicron may spell pandemic’s end, predicts doctor

 

In a Facebook post, Dr Manoon Leechawengongs pointed out that the Omicron variant has mutated significantly from the original coronavirus and its impact is far milder.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40010854

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Just seen alcohol ban in the 69 orange zones starting tomorrow. This is complete madness. Didn't happen with Delta but happening with Omicron. 

 

Stepping back into the 2020 restrictions.  Going to be a run on shops again. If they keep this feces up the country will be closed again by next weekend....idiots they are.

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Stepping back into the 2020 restrictions.  Going to be a run on shops again. If they keep this feces up the country will be closed again by next weekend....idiots they are.

I'm seeing varying stories. One is alcohol ban other is alcohol ban in restaurants in the orange zones. BP saying restaurants Thaiger saying alcohol ban. Clarity is needed.

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by dinsdale

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I'm seeing varying stories. One is alcohol ban other is alcohol ban in restaurants in the orange zones. BP saying restaurants Thaiger saying alcohol ban. Clarity is needed.

 

Like always, reporters view things differently....go figure....

[JonnyF]

Interesting. High enough to justify restrictions and instill a little bit of (but not too much) fear.

 

Well played Prayut.

 

I am guessing 11,xxx tomorrow to keep it linear unlike everywhere else in the world where it is exponential.
 

It’s a shame gambling is banned here (except the government lottery of course) or we could have done some spread betting on the number they make up tomorrow to justify next weeks policies.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Interesting. High enough to justify restrictions and instill a little bit of (but not too much) fear.

 

Well played Prayut.

 

I am guessing 11,xxx tomorrow to keep it linear unlike everywhere else in the world where it is exponential.
 

It’s a shame gambling is banned here (except the government lottery of course) or we could have done some spread betting on the number they make up tomorrow to justify next weeks policies.

 

 

We already know what number they have planned for tomorrow, it is 9,508 but a mistake was made on dates and it was released early. No doubt they'll need to change that now to another more feasible one....lol

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, Macrohistory said:

 

Try comparing it to deaths from the common cold.

 

No, far better is to compare to deaths by road accidents.... gets used ad nauseam here!

[anchadian]

Thai News Reports: 533,948 people were vaccinated yesterday.

Most people were receiving their booster dose.

 

71.4%

64.8%

10.8%

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1479698448202940416

 

[anchadian]

Latest donation of Covid-19 jabs from China lands on Thai soil

 

The Chinese Embassy in Bangkok announced on its Facebook page on Saturday that the latest donation of 500,000 Covid-19 vaccine doses had landed in Thailand.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40010857

[smedly]

4 hours ago, club said:

This thing is headed to 50 k a day. with low death rate. In hospital now after both shots of moderna. stay safe

to see 50k a day they would need to be testing 4 times that at least

[ukrules]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

and are in a complete panic as they feel they have lost control

They were never in control, the virus is in control and it's spreading, all they can do is react and perhaps control how they react although I have my doubts.

 

They will implement measures which prove completely ineffective and then it will be pats on the back all around no matter how many cases there are  because of course without whatever dumb actions they take the situation would no doubt have been far worse had they not acted and that will be the justification for whatever comes in the next couple of weeks and it's coming hard and fast now.

 

So they can do anything they want, so long as they're seen to be doing something, that's all that matters - it's all under control regardless of the outcome.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Latest donation of Covid-19 jabs from China lands on Thai soil

 

The Chinese Embassy in Bangkok announced on its Facebook page on Saturday that the latest donation of 500,000 Covid-19 vaccine doses had landed in Thailand.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40010857

Article does not state what vaccine it was but my guess would be Sinovac.  Why do they even bother as they know if they use it they just have to booster it in 4 weeks and then again.  This is pure bending over to the friends in high places.....

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

They were never in control, the virus is in control and it's spreading, all they can do is react and perhaps control how they react although I have my doubts.

 

They will implement measures which prove completely ineffective and then it will be pats on the back all around no matter how many cases there are  because of course without whatever dumb actions they take the situation would no doubt have been far worse had they not acted and that will be the justification for whatever comes in the next couple of weeks and it's coming hard and fast now.

 

So they can do anything they want, so long as they're seen to be doing something, that's all that matters - it's all under control regardless of the outcome.

True, but They feel they have lost control, and that's what makes this even more of a tenuous situation.

[RichardColeman]

4 hours ago, Macrohistory said:

 

Meanwhile, the bodies continue to pile up worldwide:  

 

2,025 deaths in the US
229 deaths in the UK
284 deaths in Germany
223 deaths in Italy
140 deaths in South Africa
etc.

 

(Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)

 

 

Would you also like to publish that 33% of UK people going into hospital with covid are actually being admitted for other reasons than covid ? Many of these people are in such bad condition from other illnesses that they have no time to recover from covid before they die of other things !

 

Far as I am concerned the UK figures (and the world) should all be amended to only include covid if the main cause of death was covid - not with covid. 

 

And yes I fully accept that there is excess deaths in the UK, but how many were deaths of people due to being unable to get operations done or cancer checks ?

 

 

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, Macrohistory said:

 

Meanwhile, the bodies continue to pile up worldwide:  

 

2,025 deaths in the US
229 deaths in the UK
284 deaths in Germany
223 deaths in Italy
140 deaths in South Africa
etc.

 

(Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)

 

 

It doesn't matter, deaths are expected - there's a pandemic of a relatively new virus going around.

 

Things are moving in the right direction in the medium term, just compare right now with last year - there's a big difference.

 

Jan 6, 2022 UK Deaths : 232

Jan 6, 2021 UK Deaths : 1043

 

Of course the vulnerable can only die once so perhaps if the COVID virus hit for the first time just a month ago the figures would be the same, there's no way to tell though.

Edited January 8, 2022 by ukrules

[LosLobo]

15 minutes ago, smedly said:

to see 50k a day they would need to be testing 4 times that at least

There's the rub! So far Thailand has never been able to test more than 70k a day (PCR tests) so with the current 40% Omicron infection rate as seen in some countries the theoretical maximum limit would be 28k cases (PCR tested).

[jaiyen]

Why do you worry about the exact figures ? Sunday it will be about 11,000 new cases and getting worse every day after.

[anchadian]

Thai virologist says Omicron may account for 30% of new COVID-19 cases

 

Dr. Yong Poovorawan said that RT-PCR tests in Thailand do not examine the S gene in the virus, which means that they cannot detect the presence of the Omicron variant.

 

Read more: https://thaip.bs/AUchCcR

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by anchadian

[ThailandRyan]

And as South Africa has seen and the UK is currently seeing the Omicron cases go up and then down.  Here is what the US is seeing and if this is the way it goes Thailand should also be on the backside of this by February.

 

CDC director says US may see 'precipitous decline' in omicron cases like South Africa (msn.com)

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said Friday there is a good chance that the U.S. will follow the "ice-pick"-shaped curve of South Africa's omicron surge of the COVID variant, but cautioned that it could roll through different parts of the country at various times, as previous waves have.

[anchadian]

Government Calls for Price Controls on COVID Test Kits

BANGKOK (NNT) - Authorities have ordered commercial affairs agencies to regulate the pricing of home-use COVID-19 antigen test kits (ATKs), as increasing demand amid spiking cases leads to price hikes.

 

https://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG220108101933775

[anchadian]

Whilst the Omicron variant is rising in Thailand, Prayut is playing his guitar.

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1479703836583362565