Halal food trends are booming

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Obtaining halal certification is a growing trend among SMEs and start-ups and not only helps boost consumers’ trust and confidence but also serves as a springboard to the global market. (Biriyani and grilled chicken Halal shows in the photo)

 

Thailand has long been known as the kitchen of the world thanks to its abundant natural resources and tasty cuisine and now it is achieving global fame in another culinary category – the halal food industry. With strong government support and innovations in the e-commerce and food industries, the potential to grow is strong.

 

The global halal food market is expected to reach US$ 2,043.20 billion by the end of 2027, according to Coherent Market Insights. The growth is mainly driven by the increasing number of Muslim populations who require their diet to comply with their religion and the increasing acceptance of halal food among non-Muslims.

 

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), Muslims are expected to comprise over a quarter of the global population by 2030. There are approximately 2 billion Muslims around the world at present, making up about 25 percent of the total world’s population. Of that, around 3.2 million Muslims are living in Thailand.

 

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[Geoffggi]

Halal Pork maybe .......................LOL

[toofarnorth]

' Halal is it meat you're looking for '   Bill Bailey.

[clivebaxter]

Not so much a trend more a business in certification, I have even seen water with that logo on it! Other sources say far less than 2 billion Muslims, and of course many are leaving and not all of them follow these restrictive practices anyway

[The Hammer2021]

State institutions from hospitals, prisons airlines all gone halal but frequently  dont inform consumers. Its increasingly  common in fresh produce in supermarkets. Its big money for halal  certifier and halal slaughter houses. In some instances some halal meat needs to be prepared  differently  to allow for the lack of blood and in Saudi  where I cooked beef a lot it could be an issue. However, halal butchers in the UK are very good  with lamb, mutton and goat.

[Rimmer]

Off topic inflammatory post removed

[DefaultName]

Halal and Kosher were very sensible principles for desert dwellers without any real way of keeping food safe.  Today, they are unnecessary and cruel to animals.

[Kinnock]

What century are we in?

[mtraveler]

1 hour ago, DefaultName said:

Halal and Kosher were very sensible principles for desert dwellers without any real way of keeping food safe.  Today, they are unnecessary and cruel to animals.

What, may I ask, is specifically and uniquely cruel about Kosher laws, as compared to the treatment of animals by those who do not follow Kosher laws?  I know nothing about Halal, so I can't speak of it.  But as far as Kosher laws are concerned, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.  Yes, the killing and eating of animals is probably considered cruel by many (I'm a vegetarian, though I choose not to judge others choices), but I'm questioning why you're singling out the practices of these two religions as regards to their laws of raising, slaughter, and eating of animals, and claiming that they are cruel.  Do you think they are worse than the non-Kosher, non-Halal practices?    

[Kinnock]

45 minutes ago, mtraveler said:

What, may I ask, is specifically and uniquely cruel about Kosher laws, as compared to the treatment of animals by those who do not follow Kosher laws?  I know nothing about Halal, so I can't speak of it.  But as far as Kosher laws are concerned, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.  Yes, the killing and eating of animals is probably considered cruel by many (I'm a vegetarian, though I choose not to judge others choices), but I'm questioning why you're singling out the practices of these two religions as regards to their laws of raising, slaughter, and eating of animals, and claiming that they are cruel.  Do you think they are worse than the non-Kosher, non-Halal practices?    

I used to manage a team of local Government meat inspectors in the UK.  Kosher slaughter was at least more professionally performed than Halal, but I considered both to be cruel as they added to the suffered and stress of the animals.  In both cases the animals are not stunned before having their throats cut.  The bleeding process is also performed while the animal is still alive and choking on it's own blood.  If it were not for the PC sensitivities, both religious slaughter practices would be illegal under UK and European law.  

 

How could it ever make sense that an animal must legally be rendered insensitive before being bled, unless the intended consumer happens to follow a particular religion?

Edited January 11, 2022 by Kinnock

[daveAustin]

Hub of halal. Wait for it!

[RobU]

disgusting method of slaughtering food animals they are basically tortured to death same with kosher meat

[Mr Meeseeks]

4 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Halal and Kosher were very sensible principles for desert dwellers without any real way of keeping food safe.  Today, they are unnecessary and cruel to animals.

Correct answer.

 

Barbaric in this modern era.

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, mtraveler said:

What, may I ask, is specifically and uniquely cruel about Kosher laws, as compared to the treatment of animals by those who do not follow Kosher laws?  I know nothing about Halal, so I can't speak of it.  But as far as Kosher laws are concerned, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.  Yes, the killing and eating of animals is probably considered cruel by many (I'm a vegetarian, though I choose not to judge others choices), but I'm questioning why you're singling out the practices of these two religions as regards to their laws of raising, slaughter, and eating of animals, and claiming that they are cruel.  Do you think they are worse than the non-Kosher, non-Halal practices?    

You have never seen street slaughter  during Eid Al Haddah.

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

I used to manage a team of local Government meat inspectors in the UK.  Kosher slaughter was at least more professionally performed than Halal, but I considered both to be cruel as they added to the suffered and stress of the animals.  In both cases the animals are not stunned before having their throats cut.  The bleeding process is also performed while the animal is still alive and choking on it's own blood.  If it were not for the PC sensitivities, both religious slaughter practices would be illegal under UK and European law.  

 

How could it ever make sense that an animal must legally be rendered insensitive before being bled, unless the intended consumer happens to follow a particular religion?

The meat is sanctified because prayers are said whilst facing a city in Saudi

[The Hammer2021]

5 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Halal and Kosher were very sensible principles for desert dwellers without any real way of keeping food safe.  Today, they are unnecessary and cruel to animals.

Pointing an animal at a famous town and saying prayers Does not make it safer at all. Bleeding the animal to death slowly does not make it safer it makes it suffer!

[Kenneth White]

Who the hell cares who indorses food anyway. I know I don't: its the last thing I look for on a label.

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, Kinnock said:

What century are we in?

Depends which calendar one uses......

[The Hammer2021]

1 hour ago, Kenneth White said:

Who the hell cares who indorses food anyway. I know I don't: its the last thing I look for on a label.

It's not a case of endorsement. It's a case of slaughter method. Halal  beef is much drier and needs cooking  differently

[mtraveler]

13 hours ago, Kinnock said:

I used to manage a team of local Government meat inspectors in the UK.  Kosher slaughter was at least more professionally performed than Halal, but I considered both to be cruel as they added to the suffered and stress of the animals.  In both cases the animals are not stunned before having their throats cut.  The bleeding process is also performed while the animal is still alive and choking on it's own blood.  If it were not for the PC sensitivities, both religious slaughter practices would be illegal under UK and European law.  

 

How could it ever make sense that an animal must legally be rendered insensitive before being bled, unless the intended consumer happens to follow a particular religion?

My whole life I was taught that the whole point of kosher killing was to minimize pain and stress.  A knife must be tested for sharpness before the slaughter is done, and if the slaughter is not done correctly (vein sliced apart cleanly), the animal was not considered killed kosher.  Of course, that meant that particular animal suffered.  I was also taught that when the vein was cut properly, the animal became unconscious immediately.  Perhaps I am misinformed.  And once again, I have no idea about the practices of Halal. 

 

I'm confused by your last paragraph.  I assume you mean the exact opposite...  how could it ever make sense that the animal is NOT rendered insensitive before being bled? 

 

Regarding stunning, I had heard many animals are improperly stunned, so that many more suffer as they are moved on hooks or conveyor belts.  Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

I accept that we humans, as animals ourselves, want and perhaps need to eat other animals.  It is certainly the right thing to do, to slaughter animals in the most pain-free and stress-free way for the animal.  If in fact kosher slaughter is more inhumane, I would absolutely agree it should be changed.  

 

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Depends which calendar one uses......

 

15 hours ago, Kinnock said:

What century are we in?

Anno Lucis 6022

[Kinnock]

8 minutes ago, mtraveler said:

My whole life I was taught that the whole point of kosher killing was to minimize pain and stress.  A knife must be tested for sharpness before the slaughter is done, and if the slaughter is not done correctly (vein sliced apart cleanly), the animal was not considered killed kosher.  Of course, that meant that particular animal suffered.  I was also taught that when the vein was cut properly, the animal became unconscious immediately.  Perhaps I am misinformed.  And once again, I have no idea about the practices of Halal. 

 

I'm confused by your last paragraph.  I assume you mean the exact opposite...  how could it ever make sense that the animal is NOT rendered insensitive before being bled? 

 

Regarding stunning, I had heard many animals are improperly stunned, so that many more suffer as they are moved on hooks or conveyor belts.  Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

I accept that we humans, as animals ourselves, want and perhaps need to eat other animals.  It is certainly the right thing to do, to slaughter animals in the most pain-free and stress-free way for the animal.  If in fact kosher slaughter is more inhumane, I would absolutely agree it should be changed.  

 

 

Sometimes sheep are improperly stunned when using non-religious, electric stunning techniques, as the wool can prevent a proper contact, and they do not always keep the sponge pads soaked in saline.  But the captive bolt gun and the CO2 methods are very effective.

 

There are also qualified vets and inspectors observing the process.

 

But with religious slaughter, the vets and inspectors, plus the trained,  experienced slaughtermen, have to stand by while the religious representative tries to slice the artery.  It then takes some time for the animal to become unconcious while it is being rotated to bleed out.

 

Yes, the Rabbis are trained and have special knives, but the killing process is not quick.  In the case of Halal the training is minimal and the equipment can sometimes be of poor quality.

 

I know animal slaughter in some countries is to a much lower standard than in UK, Europe or US, so religious slaughter, in those countries, may be no worse, but compared to modern techniques it significantly increases the suffering of the animal.

[Kinnock]

4 hours ago, Kenneth White said:

Who the hell cares who indorses food anyway. I know I don't: its the last thing I look for on a label.

The Kosher certification process is very limited.  There are many different schemes, some better than others, but even with the best, the slaughterhouse audit process only takes about 30 minutes.  

 

By comparison, an EU site audit typically takes 2 days.

 

With Halal certification, there is nothing of any real value.

[RobU]

7 hours ago, mtraveler said:

My whole life I was taught that the whole point of kosher killing was to minimize pain and stress.  A knife must be tested for sharpness before the slaughter is done, and if the slaughter is not done correctly (vein sliced apart cleanly), the animal was not considered killed kosher.  Of course, that meant that particular animal suffered.  I was also taught that when the vein was cut properly, the animal became unconscious immediately.  Perhaps I am misinformed.  And once again, I have no idea about the practices of Halal. 

 

I'm confused by your last paragraph.  I assume you mean the exact opposite...  how could it ever make sense that the animal is NOT rendered insensitive before being bled? 

 

Regarding stunning, I had heard many animals are improperly stunned, so that many more suffer as they are moved on hooks or conveyor belts.  Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

I accept that we humans, as animals ourselves, want and perhaps need to eat other animals.  It is certainly the right thing to do, to slaughter animals in the most pain-free and stress-free way for the animal.  If in fact kosher slaughter is more inhumane, I would absolutely agree it should be changed.  

 

 

In commercial slaughter houses, both Halal and Kosher. The beasts have their throats cut and then are strung up by their back legs to facilitate bleeding out. This causes agonising pain, displacing or breaking the hips. Slicing the veins is only part of this cruel and inhumane practice. Slicing the veins/arteries does not cause them to become immediately unconscious the brain survives for up to 10 minutes without nourishment depending on the temperature of the beast

Edited January 12, 2022 by RobU

[Orinoco]

Religion 2022, Will mankind ever grow up. 

[cyril sneer]

thought this was article about the UK

 

that said, Islam has been on the rise nearly everywhere since 9/11

[Orinoco]

2 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

thought this was article about the UK

 

that said, Islam has been on the rise nearly everywhere since 9/11

Yes, fools are easily led.

 

 

Edited January 12, 2022 by Orinoco

[Kenneth White]

19 hours ago, Kinnock said:

The Kosher certification process is very limited.  There are many different schemes, some better than others, but even with the best, the slaughterhouse audit process only takes about 30 minutes.  

 

By comparison, an EU site audit typically takes 2 days.

 

With Halal certification, there is nothing of any real value.

I agree slaughterhouse inspections need to be preformed. If you are Jewish or Muslim you should know what foods are Kosher or Hala approved. If you are a strict Kosher or Hala person go to the appropriate market.

[Kenneth White]

On 1/12/2022 at 7:17 AM, The Hammer2021 said:

It's not a case of endorsement. It's a case of slaughter method. Halal  beef is much drier and needs cooking  differently

If that's the case then go to a Hala market and that goes for Kosher as well. 

[phetphet]

It's not just meat. There are many halal products. Even halal disinfectant and sanitizer..