Swedish man reportedly attacked by two Thai men on Pattaya Beach for no reason

[bangon04]

Whatever the true story.. this is another lovely little story which will add to the glorious image of Thailand in the nordic mindset....

[Stargeezr]

The Swede did a foolish thing by being by himself so late at night.

  He may have thought himself as a tourist, but forgot that Thailand 

is not the same as it was during his last visit.  I hope he got good information at the

police station, about all the rules and restrictions in effect so he will behave himself for the rest of his 

wonderful COVID vacation in Thailand.

[shdmn]

23 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

The Swede did a foolish thing by being by himself so late at night.

  He may have thought himself as a tourist, but forgot that Thailand 

is not the same as it was during his last visit.  I hope he got good information at the

police station, about all the rules and restrictions in effect so he will behave himself for the rest of his 

wonderful COVID vacation in Thailand.

There is nothing foolish about being alone down there at 11pm, which is not even that late.  I guarantee you there was more to it than that.  The only problem I have ever had on beach road late at night (much latter than 11pm) are the ladyboys hanging around there trying to pick pocket people. 

 

As long as you don't look like an easy mark staggering all over the place and you don't let them get close to you they won't try anything.  I've NEVER seen anyone have problems being jumped by Thai guys unless they provoked them in some way.

Edited January 17, 2022 by shdmn

[shdmn]

2 hours ago, bangon04 said:

Whatever the true story.. this is another lovely little story which will add to the glorious image of Thailand in the nordic mindset....

Oh puulease.  Thailand is way safer than most other countries.  If anything, the farangs cause more problems than the Thais.  Pattaya doesn't exactly attract the best farangs after all.

Edited January 17, 2022 by shdmn

[Virt]

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

http://www.thailawforum.com/blog/alcohol-sales-banned-pattaya-beaches

That article is more than 4 years old and even if the same rules apply today, it does not describe it is forbidden to drink on the beach.

 

Drinking alcohol in temples, pharmacies, schools, gas stations and public parks is illegal and punishable by a fine of up to 10,000 baht and/or up to 6 months imprisonment.

 

[The Hammer2021]

The idea that a foreigner could be responsible is outrageous.  The Scandinavians especially are famous for their tee total lifestyle and  fondness for tea drinking  cycling and meditation. Thailand would be a lot safer for foreigners if there were no go zones where Thais were not allowed unless they had a special pass to access and serve white people. Gambia and DR have such a system with resorts for tourists only except  service staff and prostitutes. Tourists fly in and get a special shuttle bus to the foreigners only resort and thus enjoy their holiday without the risk of  meeting locals.

[drgoon]

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wow - hyperbolae !!!!.... 

 

Drunk ?

 

Uneducated ??

 

Bothering the freelancers ???

 

BTW: he’s not slouching in his chair, he’s getting something out of his handbag.

 

 

Still looks like a slouch...  and I think he's still outside the restrictions imposed which may be why the locals had a go at him.

[Pique Dard]

frankly, i don't get it! so if the swede was drinking alone on the beach, moreover because it's forbidden, THEN it's ok to assault him? is that so?

[shdmn]

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The idea that a foreigner could be responsible is outrageous.  The Scandinavians especially are famous for their tee total lifestyle and  fondness for tea drinking  cycling and meditation. Thailand would be a lot safer for foreigners if there were no go zones where Thais were not allowed unless they had a special pass to access and serve white people. Gambia and DR have such a system with resorts for tourists only except  service staff and prostitutes. Tourists fly in and get a special shuttle bus to the foreigners only resort and thus enjoy their holiday without the risk of  meeting locals.

So like what the Chinese already do.

Edited January 17, 2022 by shdmn

[Bohemianfish]

20 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wow - hyperbolae !!!!.... 

 

Drunk ?

 

Uneducated ??

 

Bothering the freelancers ???

 

BTW: he’s not slouching in his chair, he’s getting something out of his handbag.

 

 

Are socks with sandals legal there?

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, shdmn said:

Thai guys won't jump you unless provoked in some way.  Just sitting alone drinking a beer is certainly not a reason.  The guy was probably hammered and mouthing off or something.

 

Pure supposition... he made himself a target and got rewarded.

 

[jacko45k]

7 hours ago, RobU said:

I have started carrying a 'Manbag' much more convenient than pockets. If you were a beautiful Thai lady and said such a thing to me I would accompany you back to your station, otherwise please go away with short jerky movements (**** off)????

It is something that would almost certainly get left behind somewhere. I just do not see how they are more convenient than pockets.... women seem to spend most of their time fumbling around in them.....

[morrobay]

5 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The idea that a foreigner could be responsible is outrageous.  The Scandinavians especially are famous for their tee total lifestyle and  fondness for tea drinking  cycling and meditation. Thailand would be a lot safer for foreigners if there were no go zones where Thais were not allowed unless they had a special pass to access and serve white people. Gambia and DR have such a system with resorts for tourists only except  service staff and prostitutes. Tourists fly in and get a special shuttle bus to the foreigners only resort and thus enjoy their holiday without the risk of  meeting locals.

Excellent Sir. Could not have said it better. This had nothing to do with having a beer. Give me a break. I like that no go zones. These local lowlifes shouldn't be allowed on the promenade. What with their smoking, lying around, riding motorbikes. And things like this report that I have no problem with accepting .

 

[Harsh Jones]

19 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Are you going to ask for link ??? peer reviewed paper ?

 

Even someone as obtuse as yourself cannot fail to recognise that ‘random acts of violence’ happen.... 

 

 

Its the oldest alibi in the book. Fight breaks out "hey I was just minding my own business and....."

[thailand49]

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Go and have a beer on Pattaya Beach and see.... 

If I was a drinker at that time I might?  But if I got slap I wouldn't be making a report. ???? It would most likely be the other way around. 

[BangkokReady]

23 hours ago, FalangJaiDee said:

Theres always at least one Thai guy that is leering like he’s just waiting for a cultural faux paus to arise that would legitimize him attacking me.

A brief inspection of this website would suggest there are plenty of foreigners waiting for the same opportunity.

 

It's quite sad really, overall.  I had never really experienced true racism before finding myself in Thailand during covid.

[thailand49]

10 hours ago, tomyami said:

If he slapped back which is what they really deserve and then if he made it to soi 9 police station he would be locked up, as it is he will have paid 50b for reporting it.

11pm on the beach having a beer was possible pre covid now with it so empty not a wise move

Everyone focus on the drinking go down to the beach there are locals on the sand pavement gather sharing their food Jim June hot pot drinking maybe he got slap ask to get off bench because that was the guy bed? 

[BangkokReady]

16 hours ago, bbko said:

maybe the Thais are getting sick (no pun intended) and tired of seeing farang scofflaws parading around their country not following the mask rule

Do you think they're sick of other Thais not wearing masks properly?  Or is that OK?

[HAPPYNUFF]

Well, I was going to  have Liverpool Lou  be my lawyer, should I ever have need of one,  as he   purported to have  a good knowqledge of Thai law, especially   in the matter of   consuming alcohol on  Thai beaches, Pattaya in particular.  However after reading  the   post from Thai Lawyers,     there  is  mention only of  the "sale" of alcohol,  no mention of "consumption"  on said beach.    Alas  Lou,  Ive had to  sack you  before even hiring you.  Never mind, Im sure    your Thai  friends  still love you.

[RandiRona]

7 hours ago, shdmn said:

I've NEVER seen anyone have problems being jumped by Thai guys unless they provoked them in some way

Thank you for patrolling every night and verifying this for us and thank you for your services. God Speed!

[MarkyM3]

18 minutes ago, HAPPYNUFF said:

Well, I was going to  have Liverpool Lou  be my lawyer, should I ever have need of one,  as he   purported to have  a good knowqledge of Thai law, especially   in the matter of   consuming alcohol on  Thai beaches, Pattaya in particular.  However after reading  the   post from Thai Lawyers,     there  is  mention only of  the "sale" of alcohol,  no mention of "consumption"  on said beach.    Alas  Lou,  Ive had to  sack you  before even hiring you.  Never mind, Im sure    your Thai  friends  still love you.

He's on my ignore list, the facts and ol Lou don't have much of a  relationship. Unfortunately I still have to see his musings in quoted posts. 

 

Meanwhile, the AseanNow reactionaries are clearly out in force in this thread justifying 2 on 1 violence over beer. Makes me wonder why they ever came to "lawless" Thailand given their slavish desire for their interpretation of law and order and irrespective of whether the facts support it?!

Edited January 18, 2022 by MarkyM3

[RandiRona]

7 hours ago, shdmn said:

Pattaya doesn't exactly attract the best farangs after all

Not the best Thais either.

[BangkokReady]

31 minutes ago, MarkyM3 said:

Meanwhile, the AseanNow reactionaries are clearly out in force in this thread justifying 2 on 1 violence over beer. Makes me wonder why they ever came to "lawless" Thailand given their slavish desire for their interpretation of law and order and irrespective of whether the facts support it?!

Sadly, I think hating on other "falangs" is probably one of the highlights of living in Thailand for these people. 

 

Who can blame them though?  Foreigners are clearly the scum of the Earth and Thais can do no wrong. /s

[mikebell]

On 1/17/2022 at 4:19 AM, RichardColeman said:

Seems one of the safest place for a crime or selling your body is actually outside the police station !

It was the favoured spot for the jet-ski scammers as they could rely on a local Bobby/Bibby to help out with negotiations.

[BangkokReady]

35 minutes ago, RandiRona said:

Thank you for patrolling every night and verifying this for us and thank you for your services. God Speed!

You're dealing with people who ignore every news item or anecdote with even the slightest negative view of Thai people, no matter how true, and dismiss it as "Thai bashing", opting to only go by their limited personal experience.  "I never had a problem with any Thai person in X years of living here, so it must have been the foreigner's fault."

 

No reason to assume that all Thais are bad, but, equally, they're only humans and Thai individuals can do terrible, cruel or evil things just like anyone else.

[mikebell]

8 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The Scandinavians especially are famous for their tee total lifestyle and  fondness for tea drinking  cycling and meditation.

Nice ironic comment.  The Swedes next door to me party every night AND they have a noisy dog.  They show NO consideration for anyone about them; they are a dreadful advert for their country.

[Hummin]

Just now, mikebell said:

Nice ironic comment.  The Swedes next door to me party every night AND they have a noisy dog.  They show NO consideration for anyone about them; they are a dreadful advert for their country.

Im sure every country have their cup of tea and cream of the cream. Not only Scandinavians who is represented

 

 

[jomtienisgood]

22 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

It's wrong when you disregard cultural etiquette in country not your own. Victim may have brought this on himself with his western behavior. 

What do you want to say???? Every day and evening I see locals having drinks along the beach..... 

[Norvabc]

On 1/17/2022 at 12:24 AM, ChrisY1 said:

Rubbish! Random attacks happen all the time!

Correct 

[Eric Loh]

53 minutes ago, jomtienisgood said:

What do you want to say???? Every day and evening I see locals having drinks along the beach..... 

Doubt they are locals as they know fully well that beaches and parks can't be substituted for closed bars and restaurants to continue drinnking and face fines of up to 100,000B or a year in jail.

 

pattayamail.com/latestnews/news/pattaya-beaches-open-but-not-for-drinking-351839

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Eric Loh
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