Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Hellfire]

1 hour ago, tgw said:

he could be "seized" in a similar operation to "Neptune Spear" and then brought to a state with ICC jurisdiction.

 

 

This is too idealistic. There are millions of, so called Russians (cannot express my true opinion of these  “people” on this forum), ready to die for their Tsar.  This regime should destroy itself from within. Unfortunately, it will take more time than most of us here would like. My main hope is this crisis will not make the rest of the world a much worse place to be living in.

 

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Hellfire

[tgw]

2 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

There are millions of, so called Russians [...] ready to die for their Tsar. 

no, I think there are far fewer than you'd think.

 

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This regime should destroy itself from within. Unfortunately, it will take more time than most of us here would like.

some people in the know give it about 6 months. I hope they aren't wrong.

[Hellfire]

6 minutes ago, tgw said:

no, I think there are far fewer than you'd think.

 

some people in the know give it about 6 months. I hope they aren't wrong.

You are an optimist. I wished you were right. My guess is 5 to 10 years, at least. And there are global risks that can make everything much worse (China and many other chaotic elements).

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Hellfire

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Ukraine’s pro-Russian minority turning against Putin amid invasion

 

 

 

Russia will be beaten, Ukrainians say

This level of faith among Ukrainians is reportedly the highest amid the Russian invasion so far

 

Almost all Ukrainians believe that Russia will be forced to abandon its ongoing invasion of Ukraine, a poll suggests.

 

A massive 93 per cent of Ukrainians said they believe Ukraine will be victorious, according to a new poll by Ukrainian survey group ‘Rating’.

 

This level of faith is the highest amid Vladimir Putin’s invasion so far, the group said.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-b2039985.html

 

AND

 

"Ukraine’s westward ambitions have only been strengthened by Russia’s assault. Before February, many residents of cities like Kharkiv were sympathetic to Russia. Now much of the city has been reduced to rubble, and pro-Russian voices have turned into fiercely pro-Kyiv ones.

...

The other challenge, Riabchyn said, is that Zelensky has proved so powerful a wartime communicator that Ukrainians are united behind him, with high morale and a willingness to keep fighting. A deal that seems like a defeat might not be acceptable to Ukrainian society.

 

“Ukrainians believe we are winning this war, so they might not accept painful compromises,” said Riabchyn, who now advises the government. “They might feel this is a betrayal. Zelensky raised the aspiration lines very high.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/18/russia-ukraine-peace-negotiations/

 

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bkk Brian]

A chilling new threat. Russia's Defense Ministry says Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol, adding it'll let residents and troops who lay down arms leave. Anyone left behind "with the bandits" will "face a military tribunal." via RIA

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

A chilling new threat. Russia's Defense Ministry says Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol, adding it'll let residents and troops who lay down arms leave. Anyone left behind "with the bandits" will "face a military tribunal." via RIA

 

 

Russia giving notice of intent to commit war crimes.

 

The failure to surrender does not make any Ukrainian a bandit and Russia has not right in international law to disregard it’s treaty responsibilities towards combatants and civilians in war.

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Russia giving notice of intent to commit war crimes.

 

The failure to surrender does not make any Ukrainian a bandit and Russia has not right in international law to disregard it’s treaty responsibilities towards combatants and civilians in war.

Absolutely and this reporter has done plenty of research on what these so called Military Tribunals are last time they were held in Ukraine:

 

"I have done a ton of reporting on "military tribunals" conducted by Russia and its separatist proxies in eastern Ukraine since the war began in 2014. Here's a disturbing look at what they are:"

 

https://www.rferl.org/a/the-executioners-of-slovyansk/30743132.html

[Bkk Brian]

This sounds interesting

 

Poland will formally propose a plan to organize an international peacekeeping mission in Ukraine at an emergency NATO summit in Brussels on Thursday, an idea that is at odds with the alliance’s official stance and one the United States rejected on Sunday.

Poland’s deputy prime minister, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, first proposed the idea when the leaders of Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovenia traveled to Kyiv last week to meet with Ukraine’s leaders.

 

“I think that it is necessary to have a peace mission — NATO, possibly some wider international structure — but a mission that will be able to defend itself, which will operate on Ukrainian territory,” Mr. Kaczynski said at a news conference in Kyiv.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/20/world/ukraine-russia-war?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimesworld#poland-will-propose-a-nato-peacekeeping-mission-for-ukraine-at-the-alliances-meeting-this-week

[rudi49jr]

Ukraine war: Boris Johnson sparks fury after comparison to Brexit.
 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60809454

 

That man really needs a serious reality check, and maybe think for two seconds before making ludicrous remarks. What a doofus. 

[tgw]

Franak Viačorka, Senior Advisor to Belarus opposition leader Sviatlana Tsihanouskaya, says that guerrillas in Belarus are trying to prevent Belarus troops from entering Ukraine.

 

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3435497-guerrillas-trying-to-prevent-belarus-troops-from-entering-ukraine.html

 

 

[DaveE13]

10 minutes ago, tgw said:

Franak Viačorka, Senior Advisor to Belarus opposition leader Sviatlana Tsihanouskaya, says that guerrillas in Belarus are trying to prevent Belarus troops from entering Ukraine.

 

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3435497-guerrillas-trying-to-prevent-belarus-troops-from-entering-ukraine.html

 

 

Good on them. Putin really thought this invasion would be over in a few days.  Oh well 

[nauseus]

35 minutes ago, tgw said:

Franak Viačorka, Senior Advisor to Belarus opposition leader Sviatlana Tsihanouskaya, says that guerrillas in Belarus are trying to prevent Belarus troops from entering Ukraine.

 

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3435497-guerrillas-trying-to-prevent-belarus-troops-from-entering-ukraine.html

 

 

Some reports say there is also hacking from Ukraine and elsewhere.

 

However some of these failures concern hardware problems - maybe the rail system itself isn't so great?

[tgw]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Some reports say there is also hacking from Ukraine and elsewhere.

 

However some of these failures concern hardware problems - maybe the rail system itself isn't so great?

"guerillas" aren't hacking.

they are physically destroying stuff

[metisdead]

A post with a link to a site using a foreign language has been removed. English is the only acceptable language anywhere on ASEAN NOW, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed.

 

A post with a trolling image has been removed.

[Bkk Brian]

33 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Some reports say there is also hacking from Ukraine and elsewhere.

 

However some of these failures concern hardware problems - maybe the rail system itself isn't so great?

From all over I gather:

 

Anonymous declared a ‘cyber war’ against Russia. Here are the results

 

More than three weeks ago, a popular Twitter account named “Anonymous” declared that the shadowy activist group was waging a “cyber war” against Russia.

Since then, the account — which has more than 7.9 million followers, with some 500,000 gained since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine — has claimed responsibility for disabling prominent Russian government, news and corporate websites and leaking data from entities such as Roskomnadzor, the federal agency responsible for censoring Russian media.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/what-has-anonymous-done-to-russia-here-are-the-results-.html

[tgw]

Wladimir Klitschko's message to the Russian people:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ca9u8BSq8i_/

[tgw]

Russian soldiers kill surrendering civilian who had his hands in the air

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10618567/Ukrainian-civilian-shot-dead-Russian-soldiers-holding-hands-surrender.html

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, tgw said:

"guerillas" aren't hacking.

they are physically destroying stuff

Oh good. It's just that tgw's linked poster had some descriptions that looked like some of these actions could have been cyber attacks. 

[sammieuk1]

Kadyrovtsy killed in Dnipropetrovsk region will be buried in pig skins – Deputy Mayor of Dnipro Lysenko

Deputy Mayor of Dnipro Mykhailo Lysenko said that those Kadyrovtsy who will be killed in the territory of the Dnipropetrovsk region will be buried in pig skins. This was reported in the Telegram channel of the official.

According to Lysenko, everything necessary was purchased for this, and the skins were allocated by local meat processing plants.

"Officially. The die is cast. All Kadyrovtsy killed in the territory of the Dnipropetrovsk region will be protected and buried in pig skins. Thanks to the meat processing plants of the city. Let's see how they will be received there in the "sky," the deputy mayor of Dnipro wrote.

Earlier, Deputy Mayor of Dnipro Mikhail Lysenko showed a gravestone with the image of Russian President Vladimir Putin. It was installed in the local cemetery.

On March 13, the Chechen state television channel Grozny reported that the head of Chechnya and General of Rosgvardia, Ramzan Kadyrov, had arrived in the combat zone in Ukraine. In the published video, one of the security forces reported to Kadyrov about the attempt to take Ukrainian children from an orphanage in the east of the country and take them to Russia.

"We approached this orphanage, quickly blocked it, got inside, but, unfortunately, the children were not there ... We were a few hours late. SBUshniki under the guise of the Red Cross in the evening drove up the car, were with weapons, drove the children into buses and took them to them, "one of the commanders told Kadyrov in Russian language and added that the beds were still warm.

From his report it follows that the target of the law enforcer was precisely the orphanage - Kadyrov's men, according to him, did not "cleanse" this village, but immediately drove up to the building where the children were supposed to be. The security official noted that they acted according to the strategy proposed by Ramzan Kadyrov.

 

Kama in English

March 2022 15:51

[rudi49jr]

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

that the head of Chechnya and General of Rosgvardia, Ramzan Kadyrov, had arrived in the combat zone in Ukraine

So hope a Ukrainian sniper gets him in his sights. If anyone deserves a bullet in the head (apart from Putin and his cronies), it’s this guy, he’s a true monster. Would be a very nice scalp for the sniper, and a very welcome addition as well to the rising body count of Russian generals being taken out. 

Edited March 21, 2022 by rudi49jr

[Bkk Brian]

"We were the last journalists in Mariupol. Now there are none." The remarkable story of how an @AP team hid from Russian troops in a hospital, wearing surgical scrubs, to continue telling the world of the city's destruction.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1505850401765179394

 

 

MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The Russians were hunting us down. They had a list of names, including ours, and they were closing in.

We had been documenting the siege of the Ukrainian city by Russian troops for more than two weeks and were the only international journalists left in the city. We were reporting inside the hospital when gunmen began stalking the corridors. Surgeons gave us white scrubs to wear as camouflage.

Suddenly at dawn, a dozen soldiers burst in: “Where are the journalists, for <deleted>’s sake?”

I looked at their armbands, blue for Ukraine, and tried to calculate the odds that they were Russians in disguise. I stepped forward to identify myself. “We’re here to get you out,” they said.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-edf7240a9d990e7e3e32f82ca351dede?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

 

 

[rudi49jr]

Posted an item about the AP journalists fleeing Mariupol, but then noticed Bkk Brian had beat me to it, so removed my post ????

Edited March 21, 2022 by rudi49jr

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

 

In Russia people are whining about stores closing in malls.

[rudi49jr]

Elite Russian officers want to poison Putin and replace him with a chosen successor to restore trade ties with the West, Ukrainian intelligence officials say.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10633433/Elite-Russian-officers-want-POISON-Putin-replace-Ukrainian-intelligence-officials-say.html

 

No wonder Putin is becoming (or has become) completely paranoid.

[rudi49jr]

41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

In Russia people are whining about stores closing in malls.

They’re going to be whining about a lot more pretty soon….

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

They’re going to be whining about a lot more pretty soon….

I don't think Ukraine will be bombing them.

[onthedarkside]

An "I heard on the news" post without any links to any source has been removed.

 

[rudi49jr]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think Ukraine will be bombing them.

What I meant was that the sanctions are going to cripple the Russian economy, so pretty soon there will be a lot more to whine about than just empty shelves or stores closing.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The top Russian naval commander died near Mariupol, Russia said, the latest senior officer killed in Ukraine

 

The deputy commander of Russia's Black Sea fleet was killed in combat near the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol, Russian officials said.

 

Captain 1st rank Andrei Paly is the latest senior Russian officer to be killed in the war with Ukraine.

 

His death was announced Sunday by Mikhail Razvozhayev, the pro-Russian governor of the Ukrainian city of Sevastopol, on Telegram."

 

(more)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-top-russian-naval-commander-died-near-mariupol-russia-said-the-latest-senior-officer-killed-in-ukraine/ar-AAVjW8e?li

 

AND

 

‘Snipers have been picking them off left and right’: Retired U.S. general explains why so many Russian generals are getting killed in Ukraine

 

"Russia keeps losing generals in its war against Ukraine.

 

The latest death, reported Saturday by Ukrainian officials, was that of Andrei Mordvichev, who as a lieutenant-general was the highest-ranking of the Russian generals to have been killed so far.

 

He reportedly perished in a Ukrainian attack on an airfield near the Black Sea port of Kherson."

 

(more)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/snipers-have-been-picking-them-off-left-and-right-retired-u-s-general-explains-why-so-many-russian-generals-are-getting-killed-in-ukraine/ar-AAVjZbY

 

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK