Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[Bandersnatch]

 

Thai EV forums are talking about a substantial price cut for the Nissan Leaf in Thailand. I am not sure that the rumors are true as the official website is still quoting the original price, but with the new model Nissan Ariya coming to the market soon it does make sense to clear the old stock.

 

https://en.nissan.co.th/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf.html#

https://www.nissanusa.com/ariya.html

 

In 2018 I attended the Bangkok motor show to look for an EV. Back then choices were limited but the Nissan Leaf was available. At 2 million Baht it was twice the price of the same car in Europe or America and even then I was not impressed with the specs. A 40kWh battery is small compared to most EVs. CHAdeMO charging connectors are a rare site at public charging stations.  No active cooling of the battery pack when the car was going to be used in the tropics!  Inside the car looked dated with the CD radio, it looked more like a Suzuki Swift than a modern EV. In 2019 MG released the ZS EV and after a test drive I put down a deposit on that instead.

 

So if the price reduction is real, does the Leaf make a good value choice? In my option, no. You would better off buying an MG EP with your one million Baht.

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

So if the price reduction is real, does the Leaf make a good value choice? In my option, no. You would better off buying an MG EP with your one million Baht.

ZS even up, or save over 200k baht buying the EP.  

Both better spec'd, so choice would be easy for most folks.

[macahoom]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

CHAdeMO charging connectors are a rare site at public charging stations. 

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure all the DC (rapid) chargers that I've used in Thailand have had the CHAdeMO plug.

[Bandersnatch]

52 minutes ago, macahoom said:

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure all the DC (rapid) chargers that I've used in Thailand have had the CHAdeMO plug.

Just did a search for CHAdeMO in my province and found none.

Maybe more common on older chargers around BKK

 

 

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[CLW]

7 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

Thai EV forums are talking about a substantial price cut for the Nissan Leaf in Thailand. I am not sure that the rumors are true as the official website is still quoting the original price, but with the new model Nissan Ariya coming to the market soon it does make sense to clear the old stock.

 

https://en.nissan.co.th/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf.html#

https://www.nissanusa.com/ariya.html

 

In 2018 I attended the Bangkok motor show to look for an EV. Back then choices were limited but the Nissan Leaf was available. At 2 million Baht it was twice the price of the same car in Europe or America and even then I was not impressed with the specs. A 40kWh battery is small compared to most EVs. CHAdeMO charging connectors are a rare site at public charging stations.  No active cooling of the battery pack when the car was going to be used in the tropics!  Inside the car looked dated with the CD radio, it looked more like a Suzuki Swift than a modern EV. In 2019 MG released the ZS EV and after a test drive I put down a deposit on that instead.

 

So if the price reduction is real, does the Leaf make a good value choice? In my option, no. You would better off buying an MG EP with your one million Baht.

 

 

 

Leaf is outdated because of the two reasons that you mentioned:

no active thermal management of the battery 

ChaDeMo charging plug which is a dying concept

 

Definitely not recommended to buy, even for this cheap price

[Bandersnatch]

One manufacturer we have not talked about much here in EVs in Thailand is Mercedes Benz. So when a dealership brought cars to my local Robinson I asked the dealership owner about what EQ cars he had - none!

 

 

To understand EVs from MB it is best to look at the UK website. EQ means electric and cars range from A to X ascending in price.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Currently MB imports some whole cars and assembles some in Thailand, however MB is building a factory to Manufacture EVs in Thailand, but for some reason they have decided to start with EQS

 

[CLW]

BYDs new EV sedan Seal and Model 3 competitor collects more than 60.000 pre orders before Chinese market introduction. 

Also in related news, that BYD enters the Japanese market with three models: Atto 3, Dolphin and Seal

 

https://insideevs.com/news/601426/china-byd-seal-launch-60000-preorders/

 

 

 

 

 

[Bandersnatch]

On 8/2/2022 at 11:10 AM, CLW said:

BYDs new EV sedan Seal and Model 3 competitor collects more than 60.000 pre orders before Chinese market introduction. 

Also in related news, that BYD enters the Japanese market with three models: Atto 3, Dolphin and Seal

 

https://insideevs.com/news/601426/china-byd-seal-launch-60000-preorders/

 

 

 

 

 

The BYD seal is a very good looking car, I hope it comes to Thailand soon.

 

 

 

BYD launches in Thailand on August 8, signing an MOU to receive a discount from the government Starting the Thai market with the Dolphin 

 

[Bandersnatch]

 

 

[Bandersnatch]

MG4 RHD EV announced prices in the in UK and how much will it be in Thailand?

Standard Range 51kWh : 350 km per charge
Long Range 64kWh : 450 km per charge

 

 

 

[Bandersnatch]

https://www.facebook.com/BYDReverThailandOfficial/
 

BYD REVER Automotive, the official BYD dealer of cars.

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Bandersnatch

[Bandersnatch]

5 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

https://www.facebook.com/BYDReverThailandOfficial/
 

BYD REVER Automotive, the official BYD dealer of cars.

 

I watched the one hour launch event so you guys didn't have to. Was hoping for an official announcement of which BYD cars were coming to Thailand, but we didn't get to see any cars. Seemed to be more a launch of the official distributor BYD REVER. They did say that they will open 30 dealerships this year  - but didn't say where, so probably mostly Bangkok based.

 

 

 

[motdaeng]

thailand electric vehicle surrent status, as of june 2022

 

http://www.evat.or.th/15708256/current-status

 

 

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A mini ev that sells for anywhere from $4200 to $5000 in China is now being manufactured in Indonesia. Unlike the original version, this one comes with right hand drive. It has a range of 200 to 300 kilometers. I wonder if it will be coming to Thailand. And, of course, what it will cost.

 

The Wuling Air Now In Production In Right-Hand Drive!

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/08/10/the-wuling-air-now-in-production-in-right-hand-drive/

 

The Wuling Air Is Going Global!

One of the first real mass market sub-$5,000 cars, the Wuling Hong Guang Mini EV, has been a huge success in China. It has been the top selling electric vehicle in China for a while now and in some months it has actually been the top selling car. It has been so successful that it has created a totally new market in China.

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/06/07/the-wuling-air-is-going-global/

[CLW]

For those who are looking for electric motorcycles in Thailand, here's a short update:

 

1. Niu RQi Sport: Chinese brand Niu is known for electric scooters and has already a respresentative / dealer in Thailand (search for FB page). Their first real motorcycle RQi Sport is expected to come out in October 2022.

Review: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/niu-rqi-sport/

 

2. Super Soco TC / TC max: Somehow affiliated with Ducati, their motorcycles are in the budget range with certain restrictions such as low speed and a bit flimsy built quality. 

Review: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2021-super-soco-ts-street-hunter/

Thai importer /dealer: https://www.cleanvehicle.net/supersoco-tc/

 

[Bandersnatch]

We have had an announcement about the BYD distributor in Thailand, but we are still waiting to find out what cars are coming and when. In the meantime I want to share a post from a BYD dealer in Thailand.

 

BYD Tang 2022  - 2nd Generation 108.8kWh battery  - three rows of seats

 

 

[CLW]

22 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

We have had an announcement about the BYD distributor in Thailand, but we are still waiting to find out what cars are coming and when. In the meantime I want to share a post from a BYD dealer in Thailand.

 

BYD Tang 2022  - 2nd Generation 108.8kWh battery  - three rows of seats

 

 

109 kWh battery, that's gigantic

[BostonJoe]

On 4/21/2022 at 11:41 PM, Bandersnatch said:

The cost of electricity in Thailand is cheap. The UK is now about ฿17/kWh.

 

T.O.U. rate overnight in Thailand is ฿2.6/kWh

Fill the country with EV and watch the cost of electricity skyrocket. Seems quite unfair to those who don't own a Ev auto 

[macahoom]

29 minutes ago, BostonJoe said:

Fill the country with EV and watch the cost of electricity skyrocket. Seems quite unfair to those who don't own a Ev auto 

Why will the price of electricity skyrocket?

Edited August 14, 2022 by macahoom

[BostonJoe]

34 minutes ago, macahoom said:

Why will the price of electricity 

You do undestand supply and demand 

[KhunLA]

26 minutes ago, BostonJoe said:

You do undestand supply and demand 

Not quite sure you do, entirely.  Plenty of Supply & Demand, but seems PEA & govt don't want them to meet each other.

 

I know a few people with EVs.  Seems those smart enough to realize the advantage of owning, are just as savvy with their energy choices.  They all have or are going solar.

 

Same with a few on the forum, inclusive.  Having EVs & solar.  So with that in mind, many EV users are actually allowing more grid energy to be available for the ignorant folks that don't have EVs or solar.

 

If PEA would accept the excess solar users are generating, in a few years, all residential homes could have free electric.   I generate 3X during the day what I use overnight, and that's during now, rainy season, where the sun for past 2 weeks is lucky to make an appearance for more than 2 hrs a day.

 

That will probably triple after rainy season, and it all goes to waste, since not utilized on the grid.

Edited August 15, 2022 by KhunLA

[seedy]

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

the ignorant folks that don't have EVs or solar.

WOW - seems the country is plum full of such people, looking at how few have adopted either - or both.

 

[KhunLA]

28 minutes ago, seedy said:

WOW - seems the country is plum full of such people, looking at how few have adopted either - or both.

Apparently.  Just the money saved on owning an EV over the warranty period would pay for a nice solar system, and installed at that.  That's just the petrol cost savings alone, over 8 yrs/180k kms.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1246109-ice-vs-ev-the-debate-thread/page/7/#comment-17367819

 

Any further discussion/debate should probably be done on ICE vs EV thread, as way off topic here.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1246109-ice-vs-ev-the-debate-thread/

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by KhunLA

[Bandersnatch]

1 hour ago, BostonJoe said:

Fill the country with EV and watch the cost of electricity skyrocket. Seems quite unfair to those who don't own a Ev auto 

Currently my solar system produces more power than I can use most months but due to PEA’s stupid rules I am not allowed to sell my power back to the grid.

 

New MGs and BYDs come with V2L which would give even more people the opportunity to share power back at times of peak demand helping to flatten the demand curve. 

 

Also remember that the more EVs there are in Thailand the cheaper fossil fuels will be.

[KhunLA]

8 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Currently my solar system produces more power than I can use most months but due to PEA’s stupid rules I am not allowed to sell my power back to the grid.

Even worse, we're not allowed to give our excess to them / PEA for free  ????

 

What's wrong with that picture ... ???? 

If that doesn't tell you who controls the Thai & world's energy, then my use of the word 'ignorant' is way too generous.

[CapraIbex]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

the ignorant folks that don't have EVs or solar.

Well, I too object to this over-generalized statement.
There are many who are either trained in a different field or find it challenging funding a solar generated power system or locating a competent contractor.

I reside in Buriram and have the means and ample (sunny) space for financing a high capacity solar system but don't have the know-how. I would love to have a  solar system charging my future electric vehicle and air condition units. Lucky to them who are blessed with this knowledge. Some of course have engaged a competent contractor procuring and installing a solar system alas they don't divulge contact details.
There is no need boasting about the advantages of a solar system or how much one could sell to PEA over-produced power, most of us know - it just bloody frustrating for not able to jump into the boat!

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, CapraIbex said:

most of us know -

Apparently not, judging by most the replies on AN.

 

You could use my installer, though if needing a service call, might be a day or 3 longer than you'd want, since based in Hua Hin.  But they will install countrywide, I think.  His very first installation was on Samui, I think.

 

A few have PM'd for info and I've asked if he'd install, and answered yes to all inquiries.  But those asking have been understandably leery of going forward, because not local, JIC.

 

Surely there has to be an installer based closer to Buriram:

https://www.facebook.com/BuriramSolar/

http://www.solarcelltechthai.com/

If these guy don't, maybe they can recommend, as possibly the local Global House selling solar panels know installers:

https://www.pajonpai.com/

[Bandersnatch]

13 minutes ago, CapraIbex said:

Well, I too object to this over-generalized statement.
There are many who are either trained in a different field or find it challenging funding a solar generated power system or locating a competent contractor.

I reside in Buriram and have the means and ample (sunny) space for financing a high capacity solar system but don't have the know-how. I would love to have a  solar system charging my future electric vehicle and air condition units. Lucky to them who are blessed with this knowledge. Some of course have engaged a competent contractor procuring and installing a solar system alas they don't divulge contact details.
There is no need boasting about the advantages of a solar system or how much one could sell to PEA over-produced power, most of us know - it just bloody frustrating for not able to jump into the boat!

Hi neighbour. I am in Surin and my solar installer could help you out if you are interested. 
 

https://www.facebook.com/buachetsolarcell/

 

 

I started with solar covering my PEA bill now I charge my EV from solar as well. 

[CapraIbex]

22 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

I am in Surin and my solar installer could help you out if you are interested

Very much so. However I am not subscribed to any social networking services and have no intention to do so. I entered surin+buachet solarcell to internet search engine but no suitable result referring to contact details of this company . 

 

[Bandersnatch]

8 minutes ago, CapraIbex said:

Very much so. However I am not subscribed to any social networking services and have no intention to do so. I entered surin+buachet solarcell to internet search engine but no suitable result referring to contact details of this company . 

 

As you have chosen not to receive PMs here are his phone numbers

 

you can see his work on my YouTube channel 

 

https://youtube.com/EcoHouseThailand