Anyone else seen Russians in Pattaya displaying the 'Z' symbol?

[onthedarkside]

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[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Why does Thailand has a modicum of free speech. Just because it does not follow the US mantra?

Hate symbols are not free speech. The "Z" symbol is painted on every truck and tank invading Ukraine, please explain the difference between that symbol and a swastika.

[anyone]

Recently I saw a Mazda Z-triple! Should I worry about it?..

[Denim]

Zorro would be turning in his grave. They've stolen his moniker for their nefarious war.

[KhaoNiaw]

I think a lot of Thais are sympathetic to Putin. They also follow the NATO did this, provoked that line, which usually means they've taken a side and stick with it. Whereas you could just say you're against imperialism, whoever is pursuing it. I was talking to someone last night (Thai) who doesn't believe that the bombings and destruction are real. Fake news. It's just the mainstream media ya know.  

Edited May 1, 2022 by KhaoNiaw

[onthedarkside]

An off-topic diversion post has been removed, along with an ensuing reply.

 

[Leaver]

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not the post I responded to, you asked me why I had not posted on the situation in China. Clear enough for you now?

 

You got on your high horse and said, "speak for yourself."  I was speaking very much in general, using the term "people."  Not "me" and not "you." 

 

I stand by my comments that people only take an interest in a war, perhaps even an objection, when it effects themselves directly somehow, otherwise, they change the channel. 

 

For decades, there's usually several wars going on at any one given time in the world.  PEOPLE have become desensitized to war. 

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

How does the the war in Ukraine personally affect Western retirees in Thailand ?

Increases in cost of living. The gasoline price has gone from 30 baht/litre to 40 baht/litre, that flows into costs for all kinds of goods.

I'm not comfortable with a murderer, thief and poisoner trying to re-order the world back to the days of Stalin. Possibly Kremlin apologists and those lacking any moral compass are.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

You got on your high horse and said, "speak for yourself."  I was speaking very much in general, using the term "people."  Not "me" and not "you." 

 

I stand by my comments that people only take an interest in a war, perhaps even an objection, when it effects themselves directly somehow, otherwise, they change the channel. 

 

For decades, there's usually several wars going on at any one given time in the world.  PEOPLE have become desensitized to war. 

Give up, your post had already been deleted where you asked me directly if i had posted on the Chinese ughar atrocities

[Kinnock]

7 hours ago, petedk said:

The majority of Thais that I know fully support Russia. They get their news from some Thai channel that resends Russian tv. Anything from CNN or BBC according to them is fake news.

While the BBC, Euronews, CNN and Al jazeera were showing scenes of destroyed Russian tanks and condo building damaged by Russian rockets, Thai Channel 3 news was showing fake news of Ukrainian soldiers surrendering.

 

[coolcarer]

“Saw one of these aholes with Z drawn on both arms of his T-shirt with marker pen.”

 

Did he look like this, although I know this is an insult to apes

 

 

 

[Chris.B]

8 hours ago, proton said:

Z stands for Zombie

You are correct! 

 

 

[coolcarer]

22 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

 

I stand by my comments that people only take an interest in a war, perhaps even an objection, when it effects themselves directly somehow, otherwise, they change the channel. 

 

For decades, there's usually several wars going on at any one given time in the world.  PEOPLE have become desensitized to war. 

Rubbish, if you have a human trait called empathy then it will affect you deeply. Guess it’s something you are lacking. Putin is like that too and his murdering rapists.

[Scott]

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[Adumbration]

@Jingthing I am surprised you are so outraged.

 

This is the endpoint of the right to freedom of speech and expression peddled by libertarians.

 

I saw a guy here the other day wearing a shirt with the rainbow flag on it.

 

How dare he.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

@Jingthing I am surprised you are so outraged.

 

This is the endpoint of the right to freedom of speech and expression peddled by libertarians.

 

I saw a guy here the other day wearing a shirt with the rainbow flag on it.

 

How dare he.

Did Rainbowland invade Ukraine? Is Rainbowland leveling cities? Is Rainbowland committing war crimes?

I am not saying people shouldn't be allowed to wear Zs.

[Adumbration]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Punks doing that here where they know they will encounter hostiles are obviously doing it only to provoke reactions.

 

Why?

 

Did the guy I saw wearing a rainbow flag shirt only do so to provoke a reaction?

[Adumbration]

We should cut the guy wearing the z on his shirt a little slack.  Retarded people have never been noted for their fashion sense.

 

Putin chose the letter Z because he knows full well that those dumb enough to buy into his propaganda are not intelligent enough to spell or remember a catch phrase.

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Why?

 

Did the guy I saw wearing a rainbow flag shirt only do so to provoke a reaction?

I doubt it. 

If you're anti-gay, that's your trip. 

Stop with the deflection. 

Edited May 1, 2022 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

We should cut the guy wearing the z on his shirt a little slack.  Retarded people have never been noted for their fashion sense.

 

Putin chose the letter Z because he knows full well that those dumb enough to buy into his propaganda are not intelligent enough to spell or remember a catch phrase.

It's basically Putin's swastika. Putin is a fascist so he was missing that before. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's basically Putin's swastika. Putin is a fascist so he was missing that before. 

Russians Z sign is very different to a Nazi Swastika .

Its about time the world moved on from labelling people as Nazis , I seem to have spent a large part of the last ten years or so talking about whether various people are Nazis , 

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Russians Z sign is very different to a Nazi Swastika .

Its about time the world moved on from labelling people as Nazis , I seem to have spent a large part of the last ten years or so talking about whether various people are Nazis , 

Not saying Putin is a Nazi. If he was a Nazi he could just use a swastika.

I am saying he's a fascist and now he has invaded Ukraine (again). It's useful propaganda for his Russian fascist movement to have a symbol and that symbol is the Z. 

 

Opinion | Putin Isn’t Just an Autocrat. He’s Something Worse. - POLITICO

Edited May 1, 2022 by Jingthing

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not saying Putin is a Nazi. If he was a Nazi he could just use a swastika.

I am saying he's a fascist and now he has invaded Ukraine (again). It's useful propaganda for his Russian fascist movement to have a symbol and that symbol is the Z. 

I am not defending Putin or trying to argue with you , but Putin isn't actually a fascist 

[Adumbration]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not saying Putin is a Nazi. If he was a Nazi he could just use a swastika.

I am saying he's a fascist and now he has invaded Ukraine (again). It's useful propaganda for his Russian fascist movement to have a symbol and that symbol is the Z. 

You know what disturbs me most about all of this.  It is that other leaders from the West are still meeting with Putin.  How surreal is that.  Do they really think they can have a sane, rational and productive discussion with someone who has invaded a neighboring country.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I am not defending Putin or trying to argue with you , but Putin isn't actually a fascist 

Agree to disagree. 

Opinion | Putin Isn’t Just an Autocrat. He’s Something Worse. - POLITICO

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

You know what disturbs me most about all of this.  It is that other leaders from the West are still meeting with Putin.  How surreal is that.  Do they really think they can have a sane, rational and productive discussion with someone who has invaded a neighboring country.

Who has met with him lately? The leader of Austria, yes. I guess Macron might still be talking to him. 

It's not just invading, it's the leveling cities, massive war crimes, and clearly stated genocidal intentions. Indeed, how do you negotiate with that.

Face it, to Putin, offering negotiations is a sign of weakness. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Agree to disagree. 

Opinion | Putin Isn’t Just an Autocrat. He’s Something Worse. - POLITICO

Yes, he is definitely an autocrat , but is is too Left wing to be considered to be a fascist 

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, he is definitely an autocrat , but is is too Left wing to be considered to be a fascist 

You obviously don't understand what fascism is. It can occur on the left or right wing or even the center. If you believe it's only possible on the right wing, you really are objectively wrong.

Edited May 1, 2022 by Jingthing

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I am not defending Putin or trying to argue with you , but Putin isn't actually a fascist 

He gives a pretty good imitation, murdering and poisoning his opponents, extinguishing protests, shutting down the media, and having children brainwashed in schools.

Actually, he's worse than Hitler, I can't recall Hitler poisoning anyone.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Russians Z sign is very different to a Nazi Swastika .

Its about time the world moved on from labelling people as Nazis , I seem to have spent a large part of the last ten years or so talking about whether various people are Nazis , 

There's no difference in the tyranny both symbols have demonstrated before and now.

If you think it's time the world moved on from labeling people as Nazis, have a word in Putin's ear. It is his pretext for invading Ukraine, even if Zelensky happens to be Jewish.