POLITICS Trump says FBI raiding his Mar-a-Lago home

[Berkshire]

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A stretch?

 

I suppose it was also 'a stretch' when Biden claimed to have been a tractor-trailer driver. 

 

It's not 'a stretch', it's 'a lie'. There are countless examples. Hence, I take what he says with a pinch of salt.

 

PS. before you reply, yes, Trump lies as well. I am neutral and therefore able to acknowledge that both are liars.

It's not that Trump lies more than any other President...or even politician.  It's that Trump lies more than any human being who's ever walked the Earth. 

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2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A bit early to be calling for evidence.

 

Let's hope if there is any evidence, it's not handed to the FBI on a laptop ala Hunter Biden. We all know how quickly they investigate such material. Second thoughts, if it implicates Trump they'll probably wrap up the investigation in time for brunch.

 

 

But not too early to be calling it politically motivated? It is to laugh.

[LaosLover]

I just escaped the Bible-est part of the Bible Belt to live in Chiang Mai. I've heard Civil War BS for the last 2 years from these confederate flag waving traitors. 2 things will hurt their side in a civil war:

 

1) a lack of money. The red states suck off the teat of the blue states just to have enough money for pothole repairs. If NY decides not to chip in, homeschooling will be a necessity, not a Christian preference.

 

2) a lack of cardio. Take look at the shape of the Capitol rioters. They got winded running up all those stairs just to get in.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

It only happened yesterday. Evidence will be found in time, whether or not the FBI buries it remains to be seen.

At this point you're just a tirade of conspiracy theories.

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2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It only happened yesterday. Evidence will be found in time, whether or not the FBI buries it remains to be seen.

And what evidence do you have to support that assertion? Are you another time traveler? We seem to have a lot of those here on the political right. Why do you insist on reinforcing the evidence of your extreme bias?

[ozimoron]

Just now, placeholder said:

And what evidence do you have to support that assertion? Are you another time traveler? We seem to have a lot of those here on the political right. Why do you insist on reinforcing the evidence of your extreme bias?

Now he's just trolling, don't waste your time.

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Untrue.

 

Neutrals like myself hate to see a great country like the US lowering itself like this. As do many a patriotic American that DOES have the right to vote.

Neutral understand law and order and separation of power. You not a neutral aka fake. Is that what the F suffix stand for? 

[ozimoron]

Another tweet from a credible source

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

It's not that Trump lies more than any other President...or even politician.  It's that Trump lies more than any human being who's ever walked the Earth. 

Do you have a Guardian link to that ?

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do you have a Guardian link to that ?

I don't think I've told 30,000 lies in 4 years.,

[ozimoron]

“By the way,” noted Richard Stengel, a former U.S. Under Secretary of State, “Trump now has the search warrant and the inventory of what was taken in his possession. If this raid was so egregious and unjustified, why not release them?”

 

https://www.rawstory.com/mar-a-lago-search-warrant-trump/

[LosLobo]

On 8/9/2022 at 2:12 PM, ozimoron said:

Manafort reportedly admitted to supplying Kilimnick with documents during the election campaign. There is the possibility that this issue is still alive as well although I think this is about the preservation of presidential records. If it's proven that Manafort cooperated with the Russians it could be a federal offense as well.

Obviously Russian collusion with the Trump 2016 Campaign Manager. So maybe not a Russia Russia Hoax after all!

Here is the article from Business Insider!

Manafort Gave Trump Data to Russians to Gain Business Deals, He Says (businessinsider.com)
 

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[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do you have a Guardian link to that ?

If you need a link for his lies, you have cross the Rubicon. No hope.

[ozimoron]

Just now, LosLobo said:

Obviously Russian collusion with the Trump 2016 Campaign Manager. So not a Russia Russia Hoax after all!

Here is the article from Business Insider!

Manafort Gave Trump Data to Russians to Gain Business Deals, He Says (businessinsider.com)

Kilimnick had close ties to the Russian government and intelligence in particular. The probability that he did not pass that information on is nil.

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A stretch?

 

I suppose it was also 'a stretch' when Biden claimed to have been a tractor-trailer driver. 

 

It's not 'a stretch', it's 'a lie'. There are countless examples. Hence, I take what he says with a pinch of salt.

 

PS. before you reply, yes, Trump lies as well. I am neutral and therefore able to acknowledge that both are liars.

Are there many people in the world who do not lie occassionaly? Whats the difference between someone who lies and then acknowleges it as did Biden who admitted he was wrong to say that and someone who lies daily in the face of overwhelming evidence to the fact?

 

No you are not neutral, far from it.

[Mac Mickmanus]

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

While I simply had to quote your very own words.

 

 

I was referring to Merrick Garland , who was appointed by Joe Biden and he would have had to agree to and sign off the raid by the FBI on Donalds house  .

   As he would have had to agree to it and give permission for the raid , I do think that its quite acceptable to refer to him as a "boss" of the FBI 

 

Boss "a person who is in charge of a worker, group, or organization."

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[Slip]

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Untrue.

 

Neutrals like myself hate to see a great country like the US lowering itself like this. As do many a patriotic American that DOES have the right to vote.

You can call yourself neutral in every single post if you like.  Still fooling no one with half a brain.

[nauseus]

17 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Seems you have forgotten history.

 

Obama inherited an abject disaster. He brought UE down from 10.4% to 4.8%. The economy grew---and better than under 45 even before Covid. 45 tried to take credit for Veterans benefits passed by Obama. Obama saved the banking system by forcing banks to slash leverage, recapitalize, and sell off NPLs. Same with the insurance industry, after AIG tried to assuem all of te world's risk.

 

45 benefited from what Obama left him.

 

Under 45, however, the National Debt exploded from $19.6 trillion to $27.6 trillion. GDP growth---before Covid---was less than the debt added, so the so-called growth was debt fueled. After Covid,  growth went negative and UE jumped to 6,8%, where 45 left it---worse than what he inherited.

 

Every POTUS has gotten a MidEast "Peace Deal". There never is and never will be peace in the ME.

 

So what did 45 do except grift?  Nothing. Well, he did almost destroy NATO, so there's that.

Your numbers are misleading and debt was not up over previous years until 2020 at 5 trillion in Trump's last (Covid) single year.

 

NATO was destroying itself with low contributions from several nations until Trump gave them a push, which is a good job considering what is happening in Europe today..

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1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

And if they don't find anything , find  no papers where they can prosecute Trump , if the raid was a pointless endeavour , then the FBI will try to keep that quiet as long as possible .

   They will drag it on for years , making excuses to why they cannot release the papers or make a persecution

And if they do find something?

[Slip]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I was referring to Merrick Garland , who was appointed by Joe Biden and he would have had to agree to and sign off the raid by the FBI on Donalds house  .

   As he would have had to agree to it and give permission for the raid , I do think that its quite acceptable to refer to him as a "boss" of the FBI 

 

Boss "a person who is in charge of a worker, group, or organization."

Now you are making yourself look foolish.  

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, Slip said:

Now you are making yourself look foolish.  

Do explain as to why you think that  .

[billd766]

14 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Which word would be better suited ?

Raided Donalds home ? 

How about the FBI executed a legal search, complete with warrants, issued by the Justice department at former president Trump's home at Mar-a-Largo.

 

This of course is the truth, without being inflammatory or biased, as you obviously are.

[Sparktrader]

14 hours ago, placeholder said:

Thank you for reporting back to us on what you have learned from your time travels.

Look at polls

Moral if they cant stop him

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1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do explain as to why you think that  .

I'll give it a try. Because it's an extremely unlikely way to refer the to the person who authorized the search.  

[Sparktrader]

Just now, billd766 said:

How about the FBI executed a legal search, complete with warrants, issued by the Justice department at former president Trump's home at Mar-a-Largo.

 

This of course is the truth, without being inflammatory or biased, as you obviously are.

Yet found zip

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1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Look at polls

Moral if they cant stop him

Polls about events that are over 2 years away? Really?

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do explain as to why you think that  .

You're trying to imply that the raid was driven by Garland rather than the FBI following the facts and evidence. In other words, the raid was politically motivated, not a result of Trump failing to surrender records illegally kept despite negotiations to get them back.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Yet found zip

Got a link to that? Carried away boxes of stuff yet "found" nothing? How do you know. If you can't provide a strong argument to support your assertion we can only conclude you are trolling.

[johnnybangkok]

45 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A stretch?

 

I suppose it was also 'a stretch' when Biden claimed to have been a tractor-trailer driver. 

 

It's not 'a stretch', it's 'a lie'. There are countless examples. Hence, I take what he says with a pinch of salt.

 

PS. before you reply, yes, Trump lies as well. I am neutral and therefore able to acknowledge that both are liars.

Neutral

 

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” -Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Got a link to that? Carried away boxes of stuff yet "found" nothing? How do you know. If you can't provide a strong argument to support your assertion we can only conclude you are trolling.

Don’t waste your time.

 

He’s never going to believe anything that the FBI turn up, not evidence, not indictments, not guilty verdicts.

 

He’s an example of Trump’s 5th Avenue witnesses.