johnnybangkok Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, smutcakes said: Sure it will differ from industry to industry... i know a few guys in the office block here who work on the tech side of online companies and some of their senior guys (IT Geeks) are on up to 800K basic. Apart from C-Suite level, I've never heard or seen any IT job in Thiland that pays 800k THB per month (and I've been in recruitment for over 10 years in Bangkok). I'm not saying it's not possible but he would have to be some sort of next level genius or very, very specialist to constitute that kind of money. It's more likely he is just exagerating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 11:50 PM, 2baht said: The majority of Thai workers are impoverished laborers from the north and north east, they earn around 10 - 12000 baht a month with overtime! The ladies from the north-east who choose to work in Bangkok / Pattaya seems to be earning 500-1000 per day (with overtime occasionally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, bangon04 said: The ladies from the north-east who choose to work in Bangkok / Pattaya seems to be earning 500-1000 per day (with overtime occasionally) All of them? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, 2baht said: All of them? ???? average.......LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 10:55 AM, Kwasaki said: Dunno also 7-11 workers and intern nurses are on peanut wages so I don't know where your going with bringing the law into the Thai work situation, if my Mrs don't get any customers the 2 that work with her only get food no money, they understand that. That's a pathetic approach to employing people and you should be ashamed to not pay workers that come to work. It's your problem to solve if you have no customers not the employee's. Dirt bag move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said: Apart from C-Suite level, I've never heard or seen any IT job in Thiland that pays 800k THB per month (and I've been in recruitment for over 10 years in Bangkok). I'm not saying it's not possible but he would have to be some sort of next level genius or very, very specialist to constitute that kind of money. It's more likely he is just exagerating. I believe he does coding for one of the global online booking platforms. No idea of that could he true. I know how much he is paid from another source as well.. a financial advisor. He is just not the type to lie. Does not matter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 6:16 AM, Peterw42 said: OP, what are your definitions of lower middle and upper class ?? Home ownership, mortgage, big screen TV ??? The regional thing seems a bit vague as well, a bank manager, teacher, gov employee would get the same amount no matter what their location. I seriously doubt that the government and private companies pay the same salaries regardless of where they live or what the cost of living is in the area. It does not work that way in the U.S. The only hourly rate I know of for sure in our massage person who charges TB200/hour and comes to our home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 12:27 AM, JeffersLos said: Thai spouse and siblings (most are settled in Bangkok) earn between 150,000-350,000THB per month. Their friends from school, university and work would presumably earn around the same, but I (or we) have never asked or really wondered. Jacked up numbers like the Thais do. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrnuno41 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Labor officer, lifetime of experience, 35000/month. Is Thai university job. Once there was a demand for 4 jobs in it and there were about 2000 applications. Pharmacist 60000/month, I was flabbergasted, but however mentioned. Herbal pharmacist 20000/month. But she seems to do also side jobs giving her a real good income. Photographing, like graduations, weddings, commercial. Have seen some proof of it and was really flabbergasted. Amazing amounts for those jobs. As long as corona isnt there, she can do better with photography. However red this, google on: boston university creating corona. They CREATED a new one. Very successful in killing. Well done boys, but they say they are careful with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Dan O said: That's a pathetic approach to employing people and you should be ashamed to not pay workers that come to work. It's your problem to solve if you have no customers not the employee's. Dirt bag move. You are funny and have no idea how Thailand works, excuse the pun. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Kwasaki said: You are funny and have no idea how Thailand works, excuse the pun. I know exactly how Thailand works. I have a family here, farm, employ laborers so I have both a working knowledge of how people are treated, their living conditions and what's right and wrong in the way people are treated here. I also know just because others take advantage of people that have little to no choices, that it's still not appropriate or correct. You can justify it any way you want so you can sleep at night but it's still wrong and you should be ashamed. You wouldnt work for anyone under those conditions or treated like that, but it's OK to treat others that way. No moral compress comes to mind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Dan O said: I know exactly how Thailand works. I have a family here, farm, employ laborers so I have both a working knowledge of how people are treated, their living conditions and what's right and wrong in the way people are treated here. I also know just because others take advantage of people that have little to no choices, that it's still not appropriate or correct. You can justify it any way you want so you can sleep at night but it's still wrong and you should be ashamed. You wouldnt work for anyone under those conditions or treated like that, but it's OK to treat others that way. No moral compress comes to mind If you know how Thailand works then you would understand the nature and way people are paid, especially migrant workers. There is nothing more important to a company or a person than making and saving money by paying less than what you believe folks should be getting. Sorry to burst your bubble but your one of only a few who treat their workers with respect and care and we are a very minor amount of employers.. I have employed my Housekeeper now for 3 years and prior to working for me she never was employed longer than 3 or 4 months as the employers treated her like feces.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: If you know how Thailand works then you would understand the nature and way people are paid, especially migrant workers. There is nothing more important to a company or a person than making and saving money by paying less than what you believe folks should be getting. Sorry to burst your bubble but your one of only a few who treat their workers with respect and care and we are a very minor amount of employers.. I have employed my Housekeeper now for 3 years and prior to working for me she never was employed longer than 3 or 4 months as the employers treated her like feces.. I'm a little lost in you comments. I have no bubble to burst and on one hand you say something positive then reverse it with an opposite comment. I never said everyone should be doing what I do or that I'm in the majority. What I said is that's a scumbag approach having resturant workers spend their shift at work and if no one comes then you don't pay them. As a business owner that's their problem as a cost of doing business. MY point being if you bring a worker to a restaurant and they stay all day and when no customers come you get No pay. Thats full on BS regardless if others so the same. They spent there day their ready to work. If this was a construction job and the staff stood around, and did nothing or it was raining and they couldnt come to the job site then yeah no work no pay. But that's not what was said. I pay and treat my workers with dignity and fairly as everyone should because they are people not animals or property. If they work they get paid, if I can't sell my product that's my problem not theirs. I also agree that many employers will take a profit over treating someone properly especially if they are migrants. So yeah that aproach is a scumbag act and until more people stop abusing workers here they wont progress At this point there no use discussing this any further some people do right and some people do don't under the guise of doing what's others for a better profit so that justifies taking advantage of others. Those action define character and its good to see where others fall on the moral compress of life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nigelforbes Posted October 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 8:02 AM, 2baht said: I would imagine on a nationwide basis the average would be somewhere around 60.000 baht per month. The top one percent of the population controls 66% of the wealth. You're well over the top with that one, I'm pretty sure that nationally the average is between 15K and 18k although the average in Bangkok is closer to 24k. In the NE it's likely to be closer to 9k, there's a huge disparity nationwide.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 1:37 AM, scorecard said: These numbers are not typical, far from it. sorry am I missing something over 9000 euros a month..dreaming I think sorry but Who earns that ...no one I know that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SymS Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Some of my real life experiences: * Government worker in Lampang with bachelor degree, 20 years experience: under 15K per month. * Government officer in Chiang Mai with 20 years experience, bachelor degree and some responsibilities, around 45K per month * Person working from home as a translator for oversea clients, around 150K per month * Owner of tourist van company in Northern Thailand, around 300-400K per month during Thaksin, and much lower now based on the rant I heard a few years ago. * Random girl with 5 foreign "boyfriends", around 100K per month plus benefits and occasional side jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 12345 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 1:37 AM, scorecard said: These numbers are not typical, far from it. 350000 a month 55555555, what a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Jimbo 12345 said: 350000 a month 55555555, what a joke. A few CEOs of very major industries might earn such amounts but very very few. I've worked with 2. I won't reveal their names / companies but here's some hints: - Perhaps group head of national oil, gas and more..... - Perhaps group head national cement and building materials and allied industries, massive operations/company names in Thailand and very very big and highly successful branches abroad..... And of course enormous responsibilities and enormous challenges..... Edited October 21, 2022 by scorecard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 OP Average incomes, for any country are a poor indication of life situations anywhere. "In what range do most peoples incomes lie?" is a more useful question. Divide income in Thailand into tiers and you will see that most people in Thailand spend a higher % of their incomes on neccesities, and have relatively less disposable income, than do their counterparts in the West. To paraphrase J M Keynes: "Life is ****, and deeper ****, for a proportionately greater % of Thais in Thailand than it is for Westerners at home in the West" Had you really not worked that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Official statistics are highly dubious, around 40% of Thais work in the informal economy - government has no idea how much they earn, My wife runs a village shop and micro laundrette, she 'takes' about 3-4,000 a day with a markup of 20%, so theoretically makes 500-600 baht a day - BUT that is gross - if you allow for wastage (food goes bad), utility bills and days when she cannot work a whole day, average is more like 300-400 baht. And hers is one of the largest shops in the village. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) On 10/20/2022 at 3:24 AM, Dan O said: I can't believe what you wrote as accurate as rubber farming is labor entensive, not to mention fertilizing, watering, gas for equipment etc compared to the extremely low price of raw rubber brings, it's almost impossible to live on no money for a decade or even a year. Yeah local produce is cheap but that's a small portion of life so unless they live in a shack or they have other income I say not possible. My family has a rubber farm and I know the cost to maintain it and it isn't as you describe. Wife rubber farm has 50/50 deal father in law go only collect money these days! My wife dont want he anymore live in mountain and do all coz hes geting old. When he handle everything , that was me who bring chemical and other stuff there. Nowdays dealer even come to pick up rubber from mountain so dont need to carry that smelly sht no place. Father in law only go there when dealer go to buy rubber. Edited October 21, 2022 by 2 is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 12:21 AM, Baron Samedi said: If you have no idea what you're talking about, no need to reply. Thread not gonna get much action then❗ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 10 hours ago, rickudon said: Official statistics are highly dubious, around 40% of Thais work in the informal economy - government has no idea how much they earn, My wife runs a village shop and micro laundrette, she 'takes' about 3-4,000 a day with a markup of 20%, so theoretically makes 500-600 baht a day - BUT that is gross - if you allow for wastage (food goes bad), utility bills and days when she cannot work a whole day, average is more like 300-400 baht. And hers is one of the largest shops in the village. And there's income tax to pay to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 11:06 AM, MrJ2U said: How are you post on the message? Telepathy? Perhaps you could do without it but the majority of people would be lost without it. Of course not telepathy. But, I'm here in my house with family. If I were on my own in the farm, I could live on nothing. As I said earlier, I would treat myself to a meal from one of those mobile restaurants and enjoy eating fruit and veg. And I suggest MR Mr, that if the conflict in eastern Europe escalates, we might all have to learn to do without technology. But back to the OP for a jiff. Had some tree trimming done last week. Paid 1500 baht for three guys to do the tolling. Took them one day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Lower class Middle class Upper class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, owl sees all said: Paid 1500 baht for three guys to do the tolling. Took them one day. Imagine what that would cost in California! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Imagine what that would cost in California! Indeed. Even in England, in the London area, wouldn't get much change out of 500 squids. BKK; probably 3k for all three. There are a lot of Thais doing deliveries now-a-days. The people that service our area do around 50 parcels a day. The Mrs asked one lady how much she got. Just 12 baht a delivery from her m/c sidecar. I always tip between 15 and 30 baht. But without the tips it's not really an earner. She said the Thais don't tip much. She has to pay for benzine too. Edited October 22, 2022 by owl sees all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Imagine what that would cost in California! Why would a person need to imagine that ? Edited October 22, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Denim said: Lower class Middle class Upper class Elephants pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pouatchee Posted October 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/19/2022 at 12:27 AM, JeffersLos said: Thai spouse and siblings (most are settled in Bangkok) earn between 150,000-350,000THB per month. Their friends from school, university and work would presumably earn around the same, but I (or we) have never asked or really wondered. Only reason you are getting smiles is cos people can't post CONFUSED anymore. The salaries you state are hardly close to what the actual salaries are. I would like to know what jobs these guys are doing, cos even back home those are mighty fine salaries. I think you are just trying to be inflammatory, or your head is up in the clouds somewhere. Even in BKK these are still not average salaries.???? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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