Elon Musk says Twitter will provide a "general amnesty" to some suspended accounts from next week.

This came after he started a poll on Wednesday asking Twitter users whether accounts that had "not broken the law or engaged in egregious spam" should be let back on the social media platform.

Several accounts, such as that of former US President Donald Trump, have already been reinstated by Mr Musk.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63752208

Then there is this. Focus on "brand safety".

 

Musk said Friday that “Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue” due to advertisers’ concerns about content moderation and other issues raised by activists.

A number of major companies have paused ads in recent days, including GM, Audi, Pfizer, General Mills, Volkswagen and other big names who are wary of potential changes to Twitter’s policies as well as the departure of top executives. Industry groups have also expressed concern about brand safety under Musk, and The New York Times reported this week that “IPG, one of the world’s largest advertising companies, issued a recommendation … for clients to temporarily pause their spending on Twitter.”

 

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-losing-advertisers-boycott-193748977.html

 

 

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Then there is this. Focus on "brand safety".

 

Musk said Friday that ........................

 

https://www.engadget.com/twitter-losing-advertisers-boycott-193748977.html

 

 

Worth pointing out that it was Friday the 4 th November that he said that and not Friday today and its three weeks old and not a new story

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Worth pointing out that it was Friday the 4 th November that he said that and not Friday today and its three weeks old and not a new story

Do you think the winds have changed and why? If anything Twitter has become far more toxic since the general amnesty was announced. Maybe Mike Lindell will save him.

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Do you think the winds have changed and why? If anything Twitter has become far more toxic since the general amnesty was announced. Maybe Mike Lindell will save him.

 

The far left has been exploiting Twitter for years and having anyone who disagrees with them banned.

This is now being reversed and they don't like it. Quelle surprise.

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

The far left has been exploiting Twitter for years and having anyone who disagrees with them banned.

This is now being reversed and they don't like it. Quelle surprise.

True, but my post was about advertising revenue which is crucial to Twitter's survival.

17 minutes ago, ukrules said:

The far left has been exploiting Twitter for years and having anyone who disagrees with them banned.

The core point in this whole saga. These companies were happy advertising on Twitter when they banned the New York Post for factually accurate reporting to allow a vile conspiracy theory to flourish, an overreach which has led almost up to civil war(2). They were happy when woke bullies were engaging in repeated hate actions, such as carrying the bloodied and severed head of a President and the comments following. Yet now now they whine? Trump hasn't even Tweeted since he was reinstated. His past posts do NOT show what we were told they showed and why a sitting President had to be banned while the Taliban and Iranian mullahs were not. 

 

 These companies now have a serious credibility problem and a lack of moral fibre. I expect it will turn out like it did for woke Bob Chapek at Disney(1) who pushed some whacky conspiracy theory while official measures were taken to protect vulnerable young children from predators. Well Chapek got FIRED for his nonsense. These companies had best suck it up and return to advertise on Twitter even if the bosses are personally triggered by free speech and having their biases challenged on factual bases. I can understand car companies pulling ads btw, it's understandable jealousy and should not be conflated with the companies having visceral reactions to opposing opinions and free speech.

 

sources substantiating claims made

(1)https://news.yahoo.com/disney-fires-ceo-bob-chapek-131235505.html

 

(2)https://time.com/6222633/second-civil-war-us-how-to-avoid/

 

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The core point in this whole saga. These companies were happy advertising on Twitter when they banned the New York Post for factually accurate reporting to allow a vile conspiracy theory to flourish, an overreach which has led almost up to civil war. They were happy when woke bullies were engaging in repeated hate actions, such as carrying the bloodied and severed head of a President and the comments following. Yet now now they whine? Trump hasn't even Tweeted since he was reinstated. His past posts do NOT show what we were told they showed and why a sitting President had to be banned while the Taliban and Iranian mullahs were not. 

 

 These companies now have a serious credibility problem and a lack of moral fibre. I expect it will turn out like it did for woke Bob Chapek at Disney(1) who pushed some whacky conspiracy theory while official measures were taken to protect vulnerable young children from predators. Well Chapek got FIRED for his nonsense. These companies had best suck it up and return to advertise on Twitter even if the bosses are personally triggered by free speech and having their biases challenged on factual bases. I can understand car companies pulling ads btw, it's understandable jealousy and should not be conflated with the companies having visceral reactions to opposing opinions and free speech.

 

sources substantiating claims made

(1)https://news.yahoo.com/disney-fires-ceo-bob-chapek-131235505.html

 

Be that as it may, I think we can safely suggest that the advertising revenue is going to dry up regardless.

Just now, ozimoron said:

Be that as it may, I think we can safely suggest that the advertising revenue is going to dry up regardless.

agreed, but I suspect it will only be in the short term, or Musk will have other ways to generate revenue.

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

agreed, but I suspect it will only be in the short term, or Musk will have other ways to generate revenue.

Or cutting back on costs by firing staff ?

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

agreed, but I suspect it will only be in the short term, or Musk will have other ways to generate revenue.

The other way you allude to is subscriptions. Good luck with that I think. I don't pay subscriptions to any news or media platform. The successful ones are all based on advertising. Facebook's business model is all about advertising.

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Or cutting back on costs by firing staff ?

Sure, maybe he could cut all of his costs?

Advertizers dont like dis

37 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

True, but my post was about advertising revenue which is crucial to Twitter's survival.

That's his biggest problem and he knows it. However advertisers don't like the dishonesty in him.

 

Elon Admits His Content Moderation Council Was Always A Sham To Keep Advertisers On The Site

Now we’re learning a bit more about Musk’s canceled plans for the “council.” First, in meetings over the weekend he told Twitter employees that the council was always there just as cover for his own decisions, and he’d be the final arbiter of what stays up and what comes down:

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/23/elon-admits-his-content-moderation-council-was-always-a-charade-to-hopefully-bring-advertisers-back/

 

Elon Musk Says He Will Make Final Decisions on Twitter Posts, Despite Content Moderation Council

Elon Musk admitted to his Twitter staff that the platform’s Content Moderation Council is all for show and that at the end of the day he decides what gets posted.

In a video obtained by TMZ, Musk is seen addressing his staff in a Saturday Zoom meeting, where he informs them he has the final say over content shared on Twitter. He added that any evidence to the contrary is “simply not true.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/elon-musk-says-final-decisions-153716931.html

Who doesn't think Ely Lilly is about to sue Twitter?

 

'Insulin is free': Impersonator Behind Eli Lilly's Stock Crash Goes Public.

 

Sean Morrow, 33, from New York, set Twitter ablaze on November 10 with nine words: "We are excited to announce insulin is free now."

For Twitter users used to quickly scrolling down their feeds, the verified @EliLillyandCo account might have appeared genuine with its blue checkmark.

But it was one of the numerous parody accounts that took advantage of Elon Musk's original $8 Twitter Blue scheme to troll a major company.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/insulin-free-impersonator-behind-eli-lillys-stock-crash-goes-public-1762283

 

edit: From the article.

 

"On November 11, Eli Lilly shareholders winced as its stock price fell from $368.72 to $352.30 within hours of the tweet being shared, although it has since recovered".

 

Many might believe that no harm was done but lots of shareholders with trailing stop loss orders (very common) would have lost a motza.

8 hours ago, ukrules said:

 

The far left has been exploiting Twitter for years and having anyone who disagrees with them banned.

This is now being reversed and they don't like it. Quelle surprise.

"The far left has been exploiting Twitter for years and having anyone who disagrees with them banned."

 

There is a point where hyperbole becomes an outright lie.

 

Mitch McConnell, Ron DeSantis, Sean Hannity.....None of these have been banned from Twitter.  The vast majority of people who disagree with "the left" have not been banned from Twitter.  Only those who break the terms of use are banned.

It is becoming increasingly obvious this guy is a nutter. Eccentric is ok. But nuts? 

 

I kind of hope Twitter fails. Don't like it at all. 

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is becoming increasingly obvious this guy is a nutter. Eccentric is ok. But nuts? 

 

I kind of hope Twitter fails. Don't like it at all. 

One of the tweets using a fake verified account for SpaceX.

 

"People often ask why we at SpaceX have accepted billions in government subsidies during our lifespan to do 1/4 of what NASA pulled off decades ago, but with a privatized company," it added in another tweet. "We don't have a good answer. But people often ask us."

 

https://www.newsweek.com/fake-spacex-tweets-troll-elon-musk-over-government-subsidies-penis-size-1759117

10 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The core point in this whole saga. These companies were happy advertising on Twitter when they banned the New York Post for factually accurate reporting to allow a vile conspiracy theory to flourish, an overreach which has led almost up to civil war(2). They were happy when woke bullies were engaging in repeated hate actions, such as carrying the bloodied and severed head of a President and the comments following. Yet now now they whine? Trump hasn't even Tweeted since he was reinstated. His past posts do NOT show what we were told they showed and why a sitting President had to be banned while the Taliban and Iranian mullahs were not. 

 

 These companies now have a serious credibility problem and a lack of moral fibre. I expect it will turn out like it did for woke Bob Chapek at Disney(1) who pushed some whacky conspiracy theory while official measures were taken to protect vulnerable young children from predators. Well Chapek got FIRED for his nonsense. These companies had best suck it up and return to advertise on Twitter even if the bosses are personally triggered by free speech and having their biases challenged on factual bases. I can understand car companies pulling ads btw, it's understandable jealousy and should not be conflated with the companies having visceral reactions to opposing opinions and free speech.

 

sources substantiating claims made

(1)https://news.yahoo.com/disney-fires-ceo-bob-chapek-131235505.html

 

(2)https://time.com/6222633/second-civil-war-us-how-to-avoid/

 

MAGA talking about "moral fibre", "civil war" and "factual bases", That's rich!

10 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The other way you allude to is subscriptions. Good luck with that I think. I don't pay subscriptions to any news or media platform. The successful ones are all based on advertising. Facebook's business model is all about advertising.

Some disagree with you:

https://www.trefis.com/data/companies/NYT/no-login-required/5gNimvTR/New-York-Times-Revenues-How-Does-New-York-Times-Make-Money-

https://www.statista.com/statistics/192911/revenue-of-the-new-york-times-company-by-source/

59 minutes ago, candide said:

MAGA talking about "moral fibre", "civil war" and "factual bases", That's rich!

Correct. Trump would not recognize moral fiber if it bit him on the bum. There is none. Zero. 

I think it's amazing to see this supposedly smart guy shooting constantly from the hip and also shooting his own feet at the same time.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to think a little? Or maybe a little more? Isn't that what smart people do?

13 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it's amazing to see this supposedly smart guy shooting constantly from the hip and also shooting his own feet at the same time.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to think a little? Or maybe a little more? Isn't that what smart people do?

Daddy was rich, 'nuff said.

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it's amazing to see this supposedly smart guy shooting constantly from the hip and also shooting his own feet at the same time.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to think a little? Or maybe a little more? Isn't that what smart people do?

I find it quite amazing that those who have no idea how to run a business of the scale that Elon Musk has done are chipping in with advice for arguably the most successful businessman on the planet.   Yet these very same people did not feel the need to offer these pearls of wisdom to the previous CEOs who were losing money every year with their shambolic running of Twitter.    

Musk has sacked Twitter’s entire Brussels office—and that’s put him on a collision course with new EU laws

Elon Musk’s plans to turn Twitter Inc. into a free speech haven could run into its biggest political obstacles in the European Union, where he has to contend with its new Digital Services Act, which forces companies to take down illegal content.

 

EU leaders know Musk himself was a controversial speaker on Twitter — he was taken to court for defamation after he called a British caver a “pedo guy” (Musk won), the US SEC sued him for tweets about taking Tesla Inc. private (Musk settled), he tweeted a Nazi meme (then deleted it), and posted misinformation about an attack on US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband (also deleted.)

https://fortune.com/2022/11/24/elon-musk-sacks-twitter-brussels-staff-collision-course-eu-laws-gdpr/

It will be great to have Trump (the orange nightmare) back on Twitter, said no one. 

31 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it's amazing to see this supposedly smart guy shooting constantly from the hip and also shooting his own feet at the same time.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to think a little? Or maybe a little more? Isn't that what smart people do?

You could contact him on Twitter and tell him what he should be doing ?

16 minutes ago, James105 said:

I find it quite amazing that those who have no idea how to run a business of the scale that Elon Musk has done are chipping in with advice for arguably the most successful businessman on the planet.   Yet these very same people did not feel the need to offer these pearls of wisdom to the previous CEOs who were losing money every year with their shambolic running of Twitter.    

The previous CEO didn't fire or run off half his staff and warn those remaining that the company may have to file for bankruptcy, all while still losing money.

 

And he paid $44 billion to be in this situation.  A true business genius.

38 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The previous CEO didn't fire or run off half his staff and warn those remaining that the company may have to file for bankruptcy, all while still losing money.

 

And he paid $44 billion to be in this situation.  A true business genius.

Elon Musk is worth $262bn.   That's an impossible amount of money to be able to spend in a hundred lifetimes.  Why are you so concerned about what he spends money on?   Maybe his goal is one of altruism rather than profit after witnessing a woke, censorious mob with their itchy fingers on the ban buttons going to town on what has become a de-facto method of sharing news/opinions, so much so they were even influencing elections.   

 

Bankruptcy of Twitter will affect Musk no more than myself losing a single baht would, but as far as I can tell it is not about to go bankrupt anytime soon.  Twitter has been losing money for the best part of a decade (1.14 billion in 2019, 214 million in 2021).   How long do you think it would take you to turn around that kind of deficit to be profitable?  Would you have kept on all the staff that were not making any meaningful contribution or would you maybe trim off some of the fat?  Would you continue to spend $400m a year on food in the office that no-one turned up to?  Any other tips you can share with Musk to make it turn a profit more quickly?  

22 minutes ago, James105 said:

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Bankruptcy of Twitter will affect Musk no more than myself losing a single baht would, but as far as I can tell it is not about to go bankrupt anytime soon. 

Elon Borrow a lot of money to buy Twitter.... The investors will be getting nervous and he will be in the kaka if they call in the debt.

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

The previous CEO didn't fire or run off half his staff and warn those remaining that the company may have to file for bankruptcy, all while still losing money.

 

And he paid $44 billion to be in this situation.  A true business genius.

In response to the firings, the previous CEO, Jack Dempsey, apologized saying he grew company "too quickly".

 

If you want deeper understanding,  Search this phrase:  jack Dempsey apologizes grew company too quickly

 

Google has trouble finding the story, goes back to 2008 about Jack Dempsey.  Google even suggests a 'related' search to help you:   "How was blackbirding different to slavery?"  What!?

 

Duckduckoo immediately finds at least 50 references from everywhere, all on top.