Florida Principal Out After Viewing Of Michelangelo's 'David' Upsets Parents

[onthedarkside]

 

The principal of Florida’s Tallahassee Classical School is out of a job after parents complained that their sixth-grade children were shown Michelangelo’s 16th century “David” sculpture, with one parent calling it “pornographic,” the Tallahassee Democrat first reported.

 

The now-former principal, Hope Carrasquilla, told HuffPost the situation was also “a little more complicated than that,” noting that the usual protocol is to send parents a letter before students are shown such classical artwork.

 

Due to “a series of miscommunications,” the letter did not go out to the sixth-grade parents, and some complained, Carrasquilla said.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-principal-viewing-michelangelos-david-162441446.html

 

[Chomper Higgot]

Well as so very often, rightwing accusations turn out to be confessions.

 

In this case ‘Cancel Culture’ comes home to roost.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

One has to wonder if parents that would complain about such conceived their offspring fully clothed and in a dark room?

The world seems a little crazier every time I see news.

[RuamRudy]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One has to wonder if parents that would complain about such conceived their offspring fully clothed and in a dark room?

The world seems a little crazier every time I see news.

This Monty Python sketch seems increasingly relevant these days:

 

 

[Tug]

Some real prudes there sad and ignorant old Ronnie desantus was having a conference today and a reporter asked him on his new policy on don’t say gay at the high school level and he immediately called up the school superintendent to answer the question ducking it entirely and left the stage this guy is as transparent as a piece of glass. 

[pomchop]

Ban the Bible...it is full of murders, stoning, crimes, and fairy tales that have no place in schools...

[Foxx]

5 hours ago, pomchop said:

Ban the Bible...it is full of murders, stoning, crimes, and fairy tales that have no place in schools...

And naked men such as:

 

Quote

And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

 

- Genesis 9:29-23

 

[jingjai9]

I think the parents should worry more about violence in the school than a sculpture by one of the greatest artists of the ages.

When I look at this piece of art and reflect on the controversy, the Beatles song, " I am the Walrus" comes to mind where at the end they repeatedly say "Everybody's got one, Everybody's got one.."

 

[scorecard]

I find this a deliberate manufacture of 'offence' for current poitical purposes; surely many of these parents have seen photos, many times, of the very beautiful famous scultpure work of a nude young man. 

 

On the other hand I guess many folks are well aware that a lot of Americans are prudes. Their shocked, negative attitudes to speedo swim briefs an example. 

 

[newnative]

     Scary what is happening in America.  Recently there was another case of a well-respected and liked Florida college professor being fired after just a single complaint from a parent who objected to his curriculum, which he had been using for many years.   Spineless administration.

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, newnative said:

     Scary what is happening in America.  Recently there was another case of a well-respected and liked Florida college professor being fired after just a single complaint from a parent who objected to his curriculum, which he had been using for many years.   Spineless administration.

Does has a semblance of Nazism and Cultural Revolution censoring and banning of books. Lets hope that this does not developed into attacks of teachers and school board members that stood up to them. The radical GOPs may release a frenzy of woke and CRT vigilantes that they can't control. 

[bamnutsak]

Who the heck wants to be a teacher, or school administrator these days. Maybe in Iran but certainly not Florida.

 

Science has already been co-opted; soon the religious theocrats will figure out a way to make math a wedge-issue.

 

 

[placnx]

9 hours ago, pomchop said:

Ban the Bible...it is full of murders, stoning, crimes, and fairy tales that have no place in schools...

Not to mention genocide.

[candide]

 

I am surprised they haven't already been requiring to ban the evolution theory.

[Bkk Brian]

9 hours ago, pomchop said:

Ban the Bible...it is full of murders, stoning, crimes, and fairy tales that have no place in schools...

Careful what you wish for....lol

https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/utah-parent-wants-bible-removed-from-schools-its-pornographic/

 

[BusyB]

And this is the country that wants to be the 'world's policeman'.

 

Sad state to be in ... but lots of guns for the kids to play with.

[pomchop]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Careful what you wish for....lol

https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/utah-parent-wants-bible-removed-from-schools-its-pornographic/

 

will never happen as the right wing wraps itself around the evangelicals even though most of them are about as unchristian hypocrites as possible.....tax free churches continue to violate the law over and over and over with zero consequences.

[ozimoron]

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Careful what you wish for....lol

https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/utah-parent-wants-bible-removed-from-schools-its-pornographic/

 

the Bible or any other religious text has no place in schools but for a different reason. 

[Skeptic7]

13 hours ago, placnx said:

Not to mention genocide.

And incest and infanticide. And slavery and animal, as well as human, sacrifice and blood magic. 

[EVENKEEL]

16 hours ago, scorecard said:

I find this a deliberate manufacture of 'offence' for current poitical purposes; surely many of these parents have seen photos, many times, of the very beautiful famous scultpure work of a nude young man. 

 

On the other hand I guess many folks are well aware that a lot of Americans are prudes. Their shocked, negative attitudes to speedo swim briefs an example. 

 

I'm not shocked at seeing the speedo swim suits, actually it's quite entertaining. 

[heybruce]

44 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm not shocked at seeing the speedo swim suits, actually it's quite entertaining. 

I don't like seeing men wearing the ball-bag bathing suits, but I don't expect laws banning them.

[ballpoint]

And they accuse the left of being woke?

[placeholder]

Actually, someone from Slate interviewed the school board chair about the dismissal. It's worth reading. He claims the school is offering a classical education. Apparently, the Renaissance is taboo. Now if he means classical as in ancient Rome, there were public pornographic images everywhere in the Roman empire. At least until it had the misfortune to adopt Christianity.

Anwyay, here's the link

https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/03/florida-principal-fired-michelangelo-david-statue.html

Unless you're a member of Slate, you'll have to use incognito or similar mode to access it.

 

[heybruce]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, someone from Slate interviewed the school board chair about the dismissal. It's worth reading. He claims the school is offering a classical education. Apparently, the Renaissance is taboo. Now if he means classical as in ancient Rome, there were public pornographic images everywhere in the Roman empire. At least until it had the misfortune to adopt Christianity.

Anwyay, here's the link

https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/03/florida-principal-fired-michelangelo-david-statue.html

Unless you're a member of Slate, you'll have to use incognito or similar mode to access it.

 

There are many definitions of "classical education", but I don't think any preclude art depicting nudity.  Ancient Rome was quite bawdy compared to now.  If you want a chuckle, do an internet search on "Priapus" and check out the images.

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There are many definitions of "classical education", but I don't think any preclude art depicting nudity.  Ancient Rome was quite bawdy compared to now.  If you want a chuckle, do an internet search on "Priapus" and check out the images.

And these images were right out there in public for anyone to see. Maybe children in ancient Rome were forced to wear blinders?

[scorecard]

22 hours ago, newnative said:

     Scary what is happening in America.  Recently there was another case of a well-respected and liked Florida college professor being fired after just a single complaint from a parent who objected to his curriculum, which he had been using for many years.   Spineless administration.

Fear of the powerful in the gov't more to the point. 

 

I often wonder; seems that the GOP is now full of folks who want the USA to be a Christian Nationalist party (compulsory Christian) and want all to toe the line on this or get punished in some way. (MTG et al.) And at the same time they want to see white supremacy.

 

Never mind about social equality, never mind that all are equal in the eyes of god regardless of skin colour. Never mind there seems to be agreement that Jesus was not white skinned.

 

But is there a god, one god? Was Jesus really the result of immaculate conception and did he really rise from he dead 3 days later?

 

Christians want everybdy to believe this stuff which has no proof or logic at all but skoff at the teachings of Islam etc.

Edited March 25, 2023 by scorecard

[placnx]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

Fear of the powerful in the gov't more to the point. 

 

I often wonder; seems that the GOP is now full of folks who want the USA to be a Christian Nationalist party (compulsory Christian) and want all to toe the line on this or get punished in some way. (MTG et al.) And at the same time they want to see white supremacy.

 

Never mind about social equality, never mind that all are equal in the eyes of god regardless of skin colour. Never mind there seems to be agreement that Jesus was not white skinned.

 

But is there a god, one god? Was Jesus really the result of immaculate conception and did he really rise from he dead 3 days later?

 

Christians want everybdy to believe this stuff which has no proof or logic at all but skoff at the teachings of Islam etc.

There was an excellent program on BBC World about Christian Nationalism. One aspect of this is in effect elevating the Bible above the Constitution. The outcome where the US Supreme Court used dodgy logic to override Rowe vs Wade is a manifestation of this thinking.   

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, placnx said:

There was an excellent program on BBC World about Christian Nationalism. One aspect of this is in effect elevating the Bible above the Constitution. The outcome where the US Supreme Court used dodgy logic to override Rowe vs Wade is a manifestation of this thinking.   

Further, it seems to me that the concept of a 'national christian society' blatantly and very unfairly ignores the rights of folks who are agnostic etc.

 

Also, seems to me that colour is way too involved with black and perhaps to a lesser extent latin folks being sidelined / harrassed because of colour regardless of whether they claim to be christian believers/followers or not.

 

How wide spread all of the above is in the USA I don't know but enough to cause concern and especially worrying the fact that the supreme court is very strongly influenced by:

 

1. Christian Nationalsm, and

2. Allegiance to the GOP.

 

So affected it brought about the cancellation of the 50 year old Roe Vs Wade rulings on the rights of women to control their own bodies.

 

Women barred by law from making thei own decisions about their own bodies.

 

Is all of this going to suddenly and quickly revert back to the more balanced overall respectful attitudes of society say 20 years ago?

 

Very doubtful.

 

I'm glad I don't live in the USA. 

Edited March 25, 2023 by scorecard

[EVENKEEL]

25 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

 

I'm glad I don't live in the USA. 

Ditto

[Tug]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Further, it seems to me that the concept of a 'national christian society' blatantly and very unfairly ignores the rights of folks who are agnostic etc.

 

Also, seems to me that colour is way too involved with black and perhaps to a lesser extent latin folks being sidelined / harrassed because of colour regardless of whether they claim to be christian believers/followers or not.

 

How wide spread all of the above is in the USA I don't know but enough to cause concern and especially worrying the fact that the supreme court is very strongly influenced by:

 

1. Christian Nationalsm, and

2. Allegiance to the GOP.

 

So affected it brought about the cancellation of the 50 year old Roe Vs Wade rulings on the rights of women to control their own bodies.

 

Women barred by law from making thei own decisions about their own bodies.

 

Is all of this going to suddenly and quickly revert back to the more balanced overall respectful attitudes of society say 20 years ago?

 

Very doubtful.

 

I'm glad I don't live in the USA. 

I disagree I like Thailand part time but this is still the land of opportunity even as a retired guy I’m still quite active and turning a few bucks,it’s also worth fighting for and keeping it an open and progressive nation always growing towards a more inclusive and egalitarian nation that’s why this idiocy needs to be stamped out and guarded against