Thaksin back in Thailand on May 16th - calls for a landslide election victory to get country out of a "black hole"

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, rabiedabruce said:

Well, it will destabilise the baht, so silver linings and all that

Interesting comment. It seems like every time they say the baht will destabalise it strengthens.

[billd766]

5 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

I hope he exercises that right  -  then he can do his jail time.

 

 

Then the slate is clean.

 

 

You really think Thaksin's fan club could prevent a coup? ????????

Yes IMO they can.

 

However the charges against Thaksin were brought under the direction of the military coup which illegally ousted him in 2006.

 

If the coup was illegal (and it was), then the charges must be illegal as well.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, DaveMG said:

Basically he is low on funds and wants to come back so he can steal more money from the Thai people.

And you know this how, exactly?

 

Do you have access to all his bank accounts and funds, or are you simply spouting rubbish?

[roger101]

I don't know if Tony is a crook (I suspect he is) but compared to the lot we have now he is a saint.

[kickstart]

22 hours ago, Mr Dome said:

I lived in Thailand during his rule and remembering how anti-foreigner he was and how he divided the country, that's a very weird statement from a farang. Does Thailand really need the vote buying & his own brand of corruption back that he was so good at? I doubt it. 

Like you I was here it was him that put up all the immigration fees, marriage extension 200k to 400k retirement extension from 400k to the 800k visa fees 500 baht to 1900 baht, daily overstay fine 200baht/day to 500 baht/day, the reason for the increase ? he said at the time farangs were getting a good exchange rate, Pound Sterling was about 60 baht/pound, and they could afford it. 

He used to give his weekly address on Thai radio a friend of mine and his Thai wife use to listen he said it was often anti-foreigner. 

 

But Thai's say look what he did for the poor 30-baht heath care scheme brought the Thai pension helped the sick and disabled, wife's autistic daughter got a payment.

Someone said people where only interested in money, true but if you do not have a lot to start with anything free from the government would be welcome, and not forgotten, hence him and his party /family are still very popular.  

[hotandsticky]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Yes IMO they can.

 

However the charges against Thaksin were brought under the direction of the military coup which illegally ousted him in 2006.

 

If the coup was illegal (and it was), then the charges must be illegal as well.

Do you know how many successful coups Thailand has had since 1932?

 

You are dreaming if you think Thaksin will (a) return and (b) will return without being arrested 

[DudleySquat]

On 4/3/2023 at 10:33 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

No, the elephant is Thaksin. He should stay in the desert or go to jail. 

Go to prison for what? 

[kimamey]

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

But they cannot stop him returning. He is a Thai citizen and has the absolute right to return if he so wishes.

 

They can make it very difficult for him, but he has millions of supporters who would support him.

 

IMO if the military were to have yet another coup against him, they would be outnumbered by Thaksin's supporters.

I seem to remember people saying there wouldn't be a coup in 2014, as there were so many in the lower ranks of the army from the northeast who supported Thaksin. 

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, DudleySquat said:

Go to prison for what? 

Dur.

[OneMoreFarang]

6 hours ago, DudleySquat said:

Go to prison for what? 

He is a convicted criminal, sentenced to prison multiple times.

It was all over the news for years. Maybe you should inform yourself before asking stupid questions. 

[zzaa09]

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting comment. It seems like every time they say the baht will destabalise it strengthens.

Never trust experts regarding most everything. 

[jacko45k]

19 hours ago, pomchop said:

And a coup leader is not a criminal?  There are courts to sort that out...not generals with tanks.

If he loses, he is dead meat, if a winner, he stands a chance of having his picture on a few walls and maybe a currency!

[zzaa09]

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

If he loses, he is dead meat, if a winner, he stands a chance of having his picture on a few walls and maybe a currency!

If there is a majority opposition winner in May, I truly doubt that he'll be accused or charged with anything. 

The most dangerous aspect will be that he and circle are still hanging around. 

 

Forced exile sounds nice, though. 

[bannork]

Rumours of a secret deal between Pravit and Thaksin emerged after the wife of a close friend of Pravit was placed no 22 on Pheua Thai's party list.

The price for Thaksin to come home, Pravit as PM ?

 

[billd766]

13 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

Do you know how many successful coups Thailand has had since 1932?

 

You are dreaming if you think Thaksin will (a) return and (b) will return without being arrested 

And all of them were illegal, and treason against the elected ruling government in power.

 

Yet not one of the coup leaders were ever punished.

 

So if the coup themselves were illegal 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'état#:~:text=A coup d'état (%2F,a government and its powers.

 

A coup d'état (/ˌkuːdeɪˈtɑː/ (listen); French for 'stroke of state'[1]), also known as a coup or an overthrow, is a seizure and removal of a government and its powers.[2][3] Typically, it is an illegal seizure of power by a political faction, politician, cult, rebel group, military, or a dictator.[4][5] Many scholars consider a coup successful when the usurpers seize and hold power for at least seven days.

 

It follows that all the laws that came with them must be illegal as well.

 

So that if Thaksin had committed any crimes, then the charges brought against him by the coup government, must also be illegal.

 

[hotandsticky]

21 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And all of them were illegal, and treason against the elected ruling government in power.

 

Yet not one of the coup leaders were ever punished.

 

So if the coup themselves were illegal 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'état#:~:text=A coup d'état (%2F,a government and its powers.

 

A coup d'état (/ˌkuːdeɪˈtɑː/ (listen); French for 'stroke of state'[1]), also known as a coup or an overthrow, is a seizure and removal of a government and its powers.[2][3] Typically, it is an illegal seizure of power by a political faction, politician, cult, rebel group, military, or a dictator.[4][5] Many scholars consider a coup successful when the usurpers seize and hold power for at least seven days.

 

It follows that all the laws that came with them must be illegal as well.

 

So that if Thaksin had committed any crimes, then the charges brought against him by the coup government, must also be illegal.

 

 

 

Keep dreaming if it makes you happy.

 

 

It must be tough being a Thaksin fanboy...................living in the forlorn hope that one day he will ride back into Thailand on his charger, like a white knight.

[heybruce]

5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Keep dreaming if it makes you happy.

 

 

It must be tough being a Thaksin fanboy...................living in the forlorn hope that one day he will ride back into Thailand on his charger, like a white knight.

It must be tough having a simple, binary mind:  Either one supports the coup and military government or one supports Thaksin.  I don't give a damn about Thaksin, I am very much opposed to coups against legitimately elected democratic governments.

[billd766]

4 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Keep dreaming if it makes you happy.

 

 

It must be tough being a Thaksin fanboy...................living in the forlorn hope that one day he will ride back into Thailand on his charger, like a white knight.

Not as tough as it must be to be a supporter of illegal military coups.

 

After all the TRT and their follow up parties have won every legal election since the year 2000, cluding 2004 where Thaksin and the TRT won legally an overall majority in parliament. The only way that they were removed, was once again by a military coup, and NOT by an election

[hotandsticky]

20 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Not as tough as it must be to be a supporter of illegal military coups.

 

After all the TRT and their follow up parties have won every legal election since the year 2000, cluding 2004 where Thaksin and the TRT won legally an overall majority in parliament. The only way that they were removed, was once again by a military coup, and NOT by an election

Yep..............and life goes on.

 

 

Isn't it wonderful?    I cannot think of anywhere that I would rather be.

[candide]

23 hours ago, h90 said:

yes but democratic elected....his party got the most votes and he formed a complicate coalition government.

Elections have been rigged.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Elections have been rigged.

Easy to do when you write the constitution and make up the rules as you go.

[MrMojoRisin]

Thaksin has won. 
Junta lovers, time to drown your sorrows.

In the not too distant future, Move Forward will win an election and form a government and Thailand will officially join the democratic nations of the world. 
To all the expat cowardly closeted fascists who have cheered on the right wing murderous thugs over the past 20 years……

HaHa

Losers.

Suffer in ya jocks.

 

Viva La Thaksin!!!

[MrMojoRisin]

2 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Keep dreaming if it makes you happy.

 

 

It must be tough being a Thaksin fanboy...................living in the forlorn hope that one day he will ride back into Thailand on his charger, like a white knight.

He comin’

Victorious.

Bend the knee...bitches.

[MrMojoRisin]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He is a convicted criminal, sentenced to prison multiple times.

It was all over the news for years. Maybe you should inform yourself before asking stupid questions. 

Stupid is as stupid does.

Behold your new master…. Dr T.

Trumped up convictions quashed, heroes homecoming incoming.

Evil has lost again.

Fascism is over in Thailand.

Zip-a-Dee-do-da

????????????

 

[hotandsticky]

2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

He comin’

Victorious.

Bend the knee...bitches.

 

 

Oh dear! ????

 

You could be MrMojoFallin after 16th May when your idol fails to appear.

[MarcelV]

Thaksin is NOT welcome in the southern border provinces of Pattani, Narathiwat and Yala and eastern Songkhla Province.

We will never forget the Tak Bai Massacre, which happened under his watch and he did nothing to prevent it.

Stay away, Mr. Thaksin!

 

People better vote for the MFP or Mr. Wan Noor of Prachachart Party, which do value Muslim lives and the Malay culture of the deep south.

Any other party is better than Thaksin or the military-aligned UNdemocrats.

[candide]

3 hours ago, MarcelV said:

Thaksin is NOT welcome in the southern border provinces of Pattani, Narathiwat and Yala and eastern Songkhla Province.

We will never forget the Tak Bai Massacre, which happened under his watch and he did nothing to prevent it.

Stay away, Mr. Thaksin!

 

People better vote for the MFP or Mr. Wan Noor of Prachachart Party, which do value Muslim lives and the Malay culture of the deep south.

Any other party is better than Thaksin or the military-aligned UNdemocrats.

Under the assumption that the army obeys Thaksin.

[billd766]

5 hours ago, MarcelV said:

Thaksin is NOT welcome in the southern border provinces of Pattani, Narathiwat and Yala and eastern Songkhla Province.

We will never forget the Tak Bai Massacre, which happened under his watch and he did nothing to prevent it.

Stay away, Mr. Thaksin!

 

People better vote for the MFP or Mr. Wan Noor of Prachachart Party, which do value Muslim lives and the Malay culture of the deep south.

Any other party is better than Thaksin or the military-aligned UNdemocrats.

But that applies only to the provinces you mention.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Thailand

 

There are a total of 76 provinces of Thailand are part of the government of Thailand that is divided into 76 provinces (Thai: จังหวัด, RTGS: changwat, pronounced [t͡ɕāŋ.wàt̚]) proper and one special administrative area (Thai: เขตปกครองส่วนท้องถิ่นรูปแบบพิเศษ), representing the capital Bangkok.[3][4][5] They are the primary local government units and act as juristic persons. They are divided into amphoe (districts) which are further divided into tambon (sub districts), the next lower level of local government. Each province is led by a governor (ผู้ว่าราชการจังหวัด phu wa ratchakan changwat), who is appointed by the central government.

 

The last time I looked the voters choose the candidates they wish and then the party they wish in a province and it is a majority rule. 

 

If you want a national party to represent you, the Anutin and the BJT party are desperate for MPs and votes in the coming election.

[zzaa09]

On 4/4/2023 at 7:39 PM, bannork said:

Rumours of a secret deal between Pravit and Thaksin emerged after the wife of a close friend of Pravit was placed no 22 on Pheua Thai's party list.

The price for Thaksin to come home, Pravit as PM ?

 

Interesting theory. 

Wonder if all this has been approved. 

[MrMojoRisin]

On 4/4/2023 at 10:10 PM, hotandsticky said:

Do you know how many successful coups Thailand has had since 1932?

 

You are dreaming if you think Thaksin will (a) return and (b) will return without being arrested 

Just because it was so does not mean it will always be so.