webfact Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Catherine and John Yates leave Portsmouth Coroner's Court yesterday. Picture courtesy of the Daily Mail. by Bob Scott A fun-loving, “fiercely independent” teenager from the United Kingdom died after taking drugs at a Full Moon party in Thailand an inquest heard. A UK coroner yesterday determined that the 18 year old woman from Winchester died by misadventure after taking ecstasy while backpacking in Thailand. The teenager, Eleanor Yates, was found dead in her bed in the Ko Pha Ngan district on February 19 last year. The inquest, at Portsmouth Coroners’ Court yesterday, heard that she had been travelling extensively in her gap year. She planned to go to the University of Bristol to study film, the Daily Mail reported. The 18 year old had attended a Full Moon party on February 17. The inquest heard that she had taken an ecstasy tablet, also known as MDMA. However, she was found dead at 9am on February 19. The inquest revealed that a post-mortem examination conducted by consultant pathologist Dr Adnan Al-Badri showed that the cause of death was MDMA toxicity resulting in cardiac arrest. Melissa Damsgaard, who had been travelling with Eleanor revealed that six of them went to the Full Moon party on February 17. Full story: https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/drugs/fun-loving-uk-teenager-dies-after-taking-drugs-at-full-moon-party-in-thailand-inquest-reveals -- © Copyright Thaiger 2023-05-05 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. 1 1 10
Popular Post steven100 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 very sad indeed, however anyone who takes drugs unknowingly what it's made of should realize the potential risk involved, and especially during a Thai full moon party. How many have died there due to drug taking over the years ... ! 11 2 1 6 3
Popular Post PJ71 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, steven100 said: very sad indeed, however anyone who takes drugs unknowingly what it's made of should realize the potential risk involved, and especially during a Thai full moon party. How many have died there due to drug taking over the years ... ! Did you realize the potential risks involved with partying when you were 18? 5 5 4 3 2
dingdongrb Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, steven100 said: How many have died there due to drug taking over the years ... ! I do know, please tell us. 2 2
Popular Post steven100 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, PJ71 said: Did you realize the potential risks involved with partying when you were 18? i guess so ..... mixing drinks can make one be sick .... haha 3 4
Popular Post JimmyJ Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, steven100 said: How many have died there due to drug taking over the years ... ! One? 1 1 1 2
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 Very sad, of course, but how many people actually die due to some sort of problem with the actual ecstasy tablet itself and not some sort of reaction? I mean, these things get made in batches, so presumably many other people took them without incident. 5 1 2 6
BangkokReady Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, steven100 said: very sad indeed, however anyone who takes drugs unknowingly what it's made of should realize the potential risk involved, and especially during a Thai full moon party. How many have died there due to drug taking over the years ... ! Was there actually anything "wrong" with the tablet? 1
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 What a wasted life very sad. 6 1 1
Popular Post steven100 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Was there actually anything "wrong" with the tablet? well ' .... we'll never really know ..... but taking drugs is a no no in my book. but each to his own .... 9 1 1 1
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, steven100 said: well ' .... we'll never really know ..... but taking drugs is a no no in my book. but each to his own .... You don't think it came from a batch of tablets that multiple people took without any adverse reaction? 3 1 1 1
Popular Post lom Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: I mean, these things get made in batches, so presumably many other people took them without incident. Why do you assume that all tablets in a batch are of equal strength? 4 3 1 1
anchadian Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Full report: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12047351/Student-died-accidental-MDMA-overdose-Thai-party-island-gap-year.html 1 1
Popular Post wealthychef Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, PJ71 said: Did you realize the potential risks involved with partying when you were 18? Yes but it is cool when you are a kid to ignore the risks. You just don't think they apply to you. Not sure what the answer is to this, but making drugs illegal or putting people in jail or giving out fines is probably not it. (not that you are suggesting such things) 2 2
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, SGD said: Too young to die, too stupid to live. A horrific response... People take recreational drugs in their millions across the globe.. this is certainly not an indication of intelligence. Meanwhile your response is clearly an indication of your character. 18 3 2 2
Popular Post JackieMager Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, PJ71 said: Did you realize the potential risks involved with partying when you were 18? Yes, by 18 I knew. But the thing is I never took drugs. 2 hours ago, steven100 said: well ' .... we'll never really know ..... but taking drugs is a no no in my book. but each to his own .... Fully agree. Just the word repulses me. 7 1 2 3
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, JackieMager said: Yes, by 18 I knew. But the thing is I never took drugs. No coffee, tea, alcohol, paracetamol then? 4 5 3 2 2 2
Popular Post khunPer Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 Compared to the amount of people attending the Full Moon parties and young people dying from drugs elsewhere, this case is not special; however, very sad for the family. 8 4
hotchilli Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, webfact said: A fun-loving, “fiercely independent” teenager from the United Kingdom died after taking drugs at a Full Moon party in Thailand an inquest heard. A UK coroner yesterday determined that the 18 year old woman from Winchester died by misadventure after taking ecstasy while backpacking in Thailand. Her choice... 2
Popular Post Chongalulu Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, JackieMager said: Yes, by 18 I knew. But the thing is I never took drugs. Fully agree. Just the word repulses me. You do understand that alcohol and nicotine equally are drugs ,and often more lethal ? You may argue they are legal but your body doesn’t differentiate,just as in the huge (legal) opioid addiction in USA. "Just the word (drugs) repulses me…" Again,you do understand that pharmaceutical "drugs " are saving countless lives worldwide? Peanuts/strawberries will kill some people. Perhaps a little more differentiation in your assessments? 2 1 1 3 1 2
gaucan Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, bkk6060 said: What a wasted life very sad. wasted even before death , indeed 1
wombat Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, PJ71 said: Did you realize the potential risks involved with partying when you were 18? Of course...I was 10ft tall and bulletproof.???? 1 1
Chongalulu Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Her choice... I doubt her choice was to die- just as hundreds/thousands who also chose to take ecstasy chose not to die…nor did they. 1
Popular Post ChrisKC Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 When I was a teenager, I went to parties, in fact in my twenties too, but I didn't need the crutch of drugs to give me a false feeling of "fun" When it comes to drugs, I have never taken any in my entire life and from that point of view, the cynics may call me "goody goody". The dead girl was described as "fiercely independent". What does this mean? Is it someone who is stubborn, someone who doesn't take advice from anyone including parents, doesn't need anyone's help for anything? I will do what I like! The "fun" life is where one doesn't require any due diligence; can be carefree. She won't suffer anything from her death but her friends and family have to live with this tragedy for the rest of their lives - it is with them I offer my sympathies! 4 1 1 2 4
Popular Post Trip Hop Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, wealthychef said: Yes but it is cool when you are a kid to ignore the risks. You just don't think they apply to you. Not sure what the answer is to this, but making drugs illegal or putting people in jail or giving out fines is probably not it. (not that you are suggesting such things) The Netherlands and Amsterdam had the best solution to this in the mid to late 90s when the ecstacy boom started. The MDMA in its pure form wasn't the biggest danger, it was the other chemicals and drugs such as ketamine that was being mixed into the pills by some to reduce production costs and maximize profit. Something that I wouldn't be surprised to have some bearing on the case here? Because they knew that they could never stop the trade and recreational use of the drug, they allowed charities to set up testing stations inside many of the clubs and raves, whereby you could take your pill, they'd scratch off a little amount to test and let you know as to whether there were any nasties in it. No doubt it saved countless lives over the years and to the best of my knowledge there are certain places still in the Dam that offer this service for a small donation of a couple of euros? 7 2 5 3
Popular Post Straight8 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 Knowing well the risks involved, these young kids just don't care. They all think they are bullet-proof 2 1 1
Popular Post 2009 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, wealthychef said: Yes but it is cool when you are a kid to ignore the risks. You just don't think they apply to you. Not sure what the answer is to this, but making drugs illegal or putting people in jail or giving out fines is probably not it. (not that you are suggesting such things) It's not "cool", it's the the prefrontal cortex has not fully developed yet 3 1
Popular Post PJ71 Posted May 5, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Sandboxer said: Full moon = full retard Why, there's been 1000's of people enjoying these events for 40 years + without incident..... You think they've just introduced drugs? 3 2
wealthychef Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Trip Hop said: The Netherlands and Amsterdam had the best solution to this in the mid to late 90s when the ecstacy boom started. ... they knew that they could never stop the trade and recreational use of the drug, they allowed charities to set up testing stations inside many of the clubs and raves... No doubt it saved countless lives over the years... This kind of progressive policy I think is much more effective than jail or browbeating. Society turns far to fast to violence and oppression. Drug users know the dangers, they really do. They just are addicted and willing to take the risk. We can save lives by giving them safe options. But society prefers to punish them for their mistakes. An odd approach, given that you don't punish basketball players for missing baskets, you teach them how to aim better...
wealthychef Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, PJ71 said: Why, there's been 1000's of people enjoying these events for 40 years + without incident..... You think they've just introduced drugs? Without incident you say? Um... you can just casually google to find out you are wrong about this. 1 1
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