The unexpected demise of Ubon Joe has shown, how fast the final curtain can fall. All it takes is a "short illness".

Still, instead of enjoying every day, I am mired in "planning the future", hoping to circumnavigate negative personal events. It must be in my European genes. Why can't I just dance around a fire at night, chanting meaningful chants. Like so many "less developped" folks do. Not giving a rats ass what tomorrow will bring.

Granted, most folks dancing around a fire or going to church have the firm believe that a better "after-live" is the reward for enduring earthly life. So, death is not really a problem for them.

As an atheist, I dont have it so good. Being born and having to die after a very short time, to me, is an evolutionary joke. But affecting all living things. My dog dosn't know about this mechanism, but (unfortunately) I do.

Still trying to grasp Ubon Joe's demise. He contributed to this forum in a meaningful way, as very much opposed to the rest of us.

Yes, I read the sad news as well, but he wasn't a youngster anymore compare that with Jock Zonfrillo master chef judge and brilliant cook who was just 46 when he passed away last week

26 minutes ago, swissie said:

Granted, most folks dancing around a fire or going to church have the firm believe that a better "after-live" is the reward for enduring earthly life. So, death is not really a problem for them.

As an atheist, I dont have it so good. Being born and having to die after a very short time, to me, is an evolutionary joke.

Really?

I don't believe in any god. When I am dead then I am dead. So what? It won't hurt.

Until now I lived more than 20,000 days and nights. I enjoyed a lot of that time. Maybe I will live 10,000 more. Or maybe only a few. Nobody knows. There is no point of denying reality: We all will die.

 

Carpe diem!

 

 

I was shocked to read about Ubon Joe passing on. RIP Joe.

He has been a part of many threads that I have read.

It does not need an illness for someone to pass on in this world.

My wife was only 55, very fit and full of energy.

One night, we both went to sleep. She never woke up.

Live like you're going to die tomorrow.

Plan like you're going to live forever.

 

It's not so hard to do both at the same time. 

22 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Live like you're going to die tomorrow.

Plan like you're going to live forever.

 

It's not so hard to do both at the same time. 

I am 76 next month still enjoying myself, travel twice a year to Thailand still have a few glasses of wine every night I'll keep doing that till I kick the bucket you only live ones. 

Being an atheist doesn't mean one is prevented from doing a "dance around a fire." You can do it at any time that suits especially during the current burning season here.

3 hours ago, swissie said:

As an atheist, I dont have it so good. Being born and having to die after a very short time, to me, is an evolutionary joke.

Sorry for sounding preachy, but have you checked out the God thread on Aseannow?

 

33 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Sorry for sounding preachy, but have you checked out the God thread on Aseannow?

 

Who is God?

Rather having a fast ending then suffering from a disease which slowly kills you.

2 hours ago, still kicking said:

Who is God?

do you want the short answer or the extended answer?

 

Who is God? Watch Dave Allan on YouTube /Dave Allen about religion. ????????

All the believers that say your going to a better place spend an awful amount of time and money to keep out of there.

 

Is there a God?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooo

When did U-Joe check out?   I never heard about it.

Was great guy to visit with and fantastic source of info over the last 12 years.

Hope he doesn't have to deal with 90 day reports in the next life.

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

do you want the short answer or the extended answer?

 

You cannot have either a short or long answer to something you cannot know about, as you are alive.

25 minutes ago, NORDO said:

When did U-Joe check out?   I never heard about it.

Was great guy to visit with and fantastic source of info over the last 12 years.

Hope he doesn't have to deal with 90 day reports in the next life.

 

Middle of last week, funeral is today ???? 

 

 

 

 

Spot on OP.

 

Death can be just a "short illness" away. 

I'm 72 years old and very healthy...2 weeks ago I slipped on wet steps at my home. BOOM. Everything changed...badly broken tibia and fibia and my life is confined to two rooms at home. Oops

 

All it takes is one slip. One infection and so forth.

 

It's a jungle out there! Enjoy life!

 

 

Sad!   I didn't know it the guy really knew his stuff! 

R. I. P. 

5 hours ago, still kicking said:

Who is God?

What is God?

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Is there a God?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooo

Happy, you sound like my wife.....assuming and guessing about everything. Of course, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but it is unwise for you to state your opinion as fact. Consider this....of all the knowledge in the world, let's modestly say that you are aware of .00000000000001% of it. Have you considered that the true knowledge of God is hidden somewhere in the balance of that, and you just haven't discovered it as yet? Keep searching my friend! Take it from a former "rich gone broke" alcoholic and drug addict, God the Father, Holy Spirit and Jesus are all real and can change your life dramatically when they come into your life. All you have to do is receive Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, and you will never have to worry about losing your life. You will find eternal life!

 

1 minute ago, fittobethaied said:

Happy, you sound like my wife.....assuming and guessing about everything. Of course, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but it is unwise for you to state your opinion as fact. Consider this....of all the knowledge in the world, let's modestly say that you are aware of .00000000000001% of it. Have you considered that the true knowledge of God is hidden somewhere in the balance of that, and you just haven't discovered it as yet? Keep searching my friend! Take it from a former "rich gone broke" alcoholic and drug addict, God the Father, Holy Spirit and Jesus are all real and can change your life dramatically when they come into your life. All you have to do is receive Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, and you will never have to worry about losing your life. You will find eternal life!

 

No WAY am I getting dragged into a stupid philosophical discussion of absolutely no value or legitimate conclusion on this forum OR THIS TOPIC. IF you can't recognize a rhetorical statement, well that's just a damned shame.

6 hours ago, still kicking said:

Who is God?

Wrong question.

What is God?

A figment of human imagination.

But won't I be surprised if I find myself talking to it after I die.

 

A big thankyou to Ubon Joe. One of the more useful contributors who is sadly no more.

6 hours ago, still kicking said:

Who is God?

Not "who" but what? And anyway, which one?. 

 

gods are things, not beings, they don't require a capital letter. 

37 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

Take it from a former "rich gone broke" alcoholic and drug addict

To this I can only say, I left the gold-buckle of the bible belt Oklahoma a long time ago.

I too am 'mired in planning the future', swissie. I can empathize with your sentiments and do appreciate someone reminding me of what gets so easly forgotten in that boggy mire we create.

 

Dance around the fire at night, swissie. Chant your head off. Let the neighbours - anyone - think what they will. Think it was that bushy-mustached German thinker (Nietzsche?) who said something like: 'And those seen dancing were thought insane by those who could not hear the music.'

 

Reckon the planning can stay, but make the dancing part of it too, eh? ????????????

I don't really believe in the after life, but sometimes I wish i could see 4 people who have passed so I could apologize to them..I know I could have made their life happier.

11 hours ago, swissie said:

Granted, most folks dancing around a fire or going to church have the firm believe that a better "after-live" is the reward for enduring earthly life. So, death is not really a problem for them.

All my male ancestors were either dead or demented by age 70.

I'm 67 and not expecting much more time, but hoping for the death option over the demented option.

 

I'm not a believer or an atheist, more a don't really care.

10 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

I was shocked to read about Ubon Joe passing on. RIP Joe.

He has been a part of many threads that I have read.

It does not need an illness for someone to pass on in this world.

My wife was only 55, very fit and full of energy.

One night, we both went to sleep. She never woke up.

Reading about the death of your wife at 55 was hard to do - I wish I could have given you more than just one 'thanks' for sharing your painful experience.

 

 

swissie - You have a talent for words and you paint a subtext many of us all feel after the passing of Ubonjoe, an outpouring from the soul and I recognise that feeling.

 

I am saddened by the passing of a man I never met, Ubinjoe and I find it difficult to articulate what I feel. All I know is that he changed my life in so many posts while also helping thousands of others while he selflessly did so.