EV Concerns EVs On Fire

[Raindancer]

This may be of interest to those with EVs or contemplating purchasing. 

 

This is not my video.  Just passing on the information.  Please don't shoot the messenger????????

 

 

Edited July 24, 2023 by Raindancer
Addition

[JBChiangRai]

Groan

 

Statistically ICE cars are more prone to fires than EV's.

[Raindancer]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

Groan

 

Statistically ICE cars are more prone to fires than EV's.

No comment.  No stats to prove that.

[mfd101]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

Groan

 

Statistically ICE cars are more prone to fires than EV's.

Would be good to see those stats in detail ...

[KhunLA]

Another one added to the 'list' ... ????

[sungod]

I'll listen to the experts

 

 

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, Raindancer said:

No comment.  No stats to prove that.

Plenty but why bother.  A closed mind will never be opened. 

 

Besides, those stats have been posted many times before, in reply to other silly anti EV'ers posts.

Edited July 24, 2023 by KhunLA

[Raindancer]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Plenty but why bother.  A closed mind will never be opened. 

 

Besides, those stats have been posted many times before, in reply to other silly anti EV'ers posts.

My post was not silly.  Nor anti EV.  And your sardonic statement of a closed mind was not necessary.  It was a video I thought might interest people

As I said.  Don't shoot the messenger.  

 

 

Edited July 24, 2023 by Raindancer

[KhunLA]

Here you go ... now go away.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/12/gas-vs-electric-accident-and-fire-safety.html

I think it's against rules to post false info, hopefully this thread will be closed.

[Raindancer]

Just now, KhunLA said:

Here you go ... now go away.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/12/gas-vs-electric-accident-and-fire-safety.html

I think it's against rules to post false info, hopefully this thread will be closed.

How do you know it is false?

Sick and tired of all your rants to other users posts.  Blocked!!

[JBChiangRai]

7 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Would be good to see those stats in detail ...

 

4 minutes ago, sungod said:

I'll listen to the experts

 

 

Please do listen to the experts

 

https://insideevs.com/news/561549/study-evs-smallest-fire-risk/

 

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

 

https://evcentral.com.au/are-evs-more-of-a-fire-hazard-than-ices/

 

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/are-electric-vehicles-more-likely-to-catch-on-fire/

 

https://charge.net.nz/knowledge-article/ev-myths/

 

https://www.theloopnewspaper.com/story/2023/06/24/community/car-fires-evs-vs-ice-cars/10974.html

 

https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

 

https://belux.edmo.eu/fact-check-do-electric-cars-catch-fire-more-often-than-combustion-engine-cars/

 

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on

Yea, but they'll still come back with another silly vid from anti EV'ers, and try to imply it's the norm.

 

Simple search of facts counters their silliness.  If they only did that first, they wouldn't embarrass themselves when posting.

[BenStark]

3 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Please do listen to the experts

 

https://insideevs.com/news/561549/study-evs-smallest-fire-risk/

 

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

 

https://evcentral.com.au/are-evs-more-of-a-fire-hazard-than-ices/

 

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/are-electric-vehicles-more-likely-to-catch-on-fire/

 

https://charge.net.nz/knowledge-article/ev-myths/

 

https://www.theloopnewspaper.com/story/2023/06/24/community/car-fires-evs-vs-ice-cars/10974.html

 

https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

 

https://belux.edmo.eu/fact-check-do-electric-cars-catch-fire-more-often-than-combustion-engine-cars/

 

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on

No need to continue posting links from companies with a horse in the race

[Raindancer]

18 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Please do listen to the experts

 

https://insideevs.com/news/561549/study-evs-smallest-fire-risk/

 

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

 

https://evcentral.com.au/are-evs-more-of-a-fire-hazard-than-ices/

 

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/are-electric-vehicles-more-likely-to-catch-on-fire/

 

https://charge.net.nz/knowledge-article/ev-myths/

 

https://www.theloopnewspaper.com/story/2023/06/24/community/car-fires-evs-vs-ice-cars/10974.html

 

https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

 

https://belux.edmo.eu/fact-check-do-electric-cars-catch-fire-more-often-than-combustion-engine-cars/

 

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on

Thank you.  My post was meant as goodwill information for people to decide fir themselves.

 

Rather strange that as soon as I posted it, I got negative e reaction from some.  The video is 23 minutes long, so  obviously, they could not have watched the entire video, they just wanted to rant 

 

Sadly, some people just look for a fight.  Doesnt work with me.  No, not you????????

Edited July 24, 2023 by Raindancer
Spelling error.

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, BenStark said:

No need to continue posting links from companies with a horse in the race

Then read the link I posted, since they have a horse in the race, since paying out claims.  More accurate stats, than silly YT vid for clicks.

[Keep Right]

I have been fully persuaded that I will never own a combustible electric vehicle. I enjoy driving my V6 powered car around Thailand.

[KhunLA]

15 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

I have been fully persuaded that I will never own a combustible electric vehicle. I enjoy driving my V6 powered car around Thailand.

Not sure if your post in jest or not.  But if not, then you really need to test drive one of the EVs, if you enjoy driving.  There really is no comparison on the performance level of EVs over ICEVs.

 

I didn't even bother test driving our EV, as simply buying the EV version of the ICE version we already owned.  Just ready the specs was enough for me.

ICE:

Maximum power (kW (PS)/ rpm)84 (114) / 6,000

Maximum torque (Nm/ rpm)150 / 4,500

 

EV;  MP; 177(130)  MT: 280 Nm

Edited July 24, 2023 by KhunLA

[Rotweiler]

Isn't the guy who made the OP's posted video also the one who posted all the anti-vax videos? 

 

Regardless, he should be aware the one of the foremost auto mags (Motortrend) has some strong opinions  on this question.

 

https://www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires

[TimeMachine]

Its really quite amazing approval has been given for the use of lithium when this kind of explosion can and does take place.  

 

And people also tie these to the side of their house as battery backup.  They may be safe enough,  but when they do fail,  the failure is too dangerous. 

 

Petrol cars have their own issues with safety,  but it will be interesting to see as ev become more prevalant and cheaply made. I'll stick with petrol for the rest of my years. And park not so close to lithium bombs. 

[Lacessit]

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Batteries are stored energy, just as a gasoline tank is.

While it may be true EV's have less fires than ICE's, the statistics could well have a different look if one started analysing the frequency of fires in the BYD brand alone.

EV's with some are virtue signalling, which is BS when the electricity to recharge them comes from fossil fuel power stations.

It's the people who refuse to acknowledge EV's have some disadvantages, which ICE's don't have, who are the ones with closed minds.

[In the jungle]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Batteries are stored energy, just as a gasoline tank is.

While it may be true EV's have less fires than ICE's, the statistics could well have a different look if one started analysing the frequency of fires in the BYD brand alone.

EV's with some are virtue signalling, which is BS when the electricity to recharge them comes from fossil fuel power stations.

It's the people who refuse to acknowledge EV's have some disadvantages, which ICE's don't have, who are the ones with closed minds.

Well said that man.

[sungod]

27 minutes ago, BenStark said:

No need to continue posting links from companies with a horse in the race

And the 'family handyman' ????

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's the people who refuse to acknowledge EV's have some disadvantages, which ICE's don't have, who are the ones with closed minds.

9 months in with our EV, and unless an impatient person when O&A, (or work on the road) then I can't think of 1 disadvantage we've experiences.   Plenty of advantages though.

 

Matter of fact, it's easier to find a CS than E85, though mute now, since about the same price as 91.

[TimeMachine]

Even though im not a big fan of lithium.  I am of EV.  With solar energy charging,  its the best option. 

Of course using coal to create the electricity is plain dumb. 

Solar in Australia is very popular.  Every 3rd house in my town has panels. If it werent for the lithium issue,  id buy one and use my solar power to drive for free.  Now atm my excess power is being fed back into the grid where I am raped and given 1/6th the money I buy power for. 

Governmwnt and coal companies do get together to stifle the solar market. The world could be much further ahead as far as free clean  energy goes.  I apologize on behalf of greedy humanity. 

[VocalNeal]

23 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure if your post in jest or not.  But if not, then you really need to test drive one of the EVs, if you enjoy driving.  There really is no comparison on the performance level of EVs over ICEVs.

 

I didn't even bother test driving our EV, as simply buying the EV version of the ICE version we already owned.  Just ready the specs was enough for me.

ICE:

Maximum power (kW (PS)/ rpm)84 (114) / 6,000

Maximum torque (Nm/ rpm)150 / 4,500

 

EV;  MP; 177(130)  MT: 280 Nm

You didn't post the weights????????

[ExpatOilWorker]

45 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Please do listen to the experts

 

https://insideevs.com/news/561549/study-evs-smallest-fire-risk/

 

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/16/petrol-and-diesel-cars-20-times-more-likely-to-catch-fire-than-evs/

 

https://evcentral.com.au/are-evs-more-of-a-fire-hazard-than-ices/

 

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/are-electric-vehicles-more-likely-to-catch-on-fire/

 

https://charge.net.nz/knowledge-article/ev-myths/

 

https://www.theloopnewspaper.com/story/2023/06/24/community/car-fires-evs-vs-ice-cars/10974.html

 

https://electrek.co/2022/01/12/government-data-shows-gasoline-vehicles-are-significantly-more-prone-to-fires-than-evs/

 

https://belux.edmo.eu/fact-check-do-electric-cars-catch-fire-more-often-than-combustion-engine-cars/

 

I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on

It would be nice to see statistics based on km driven, rather than per vehicle. 

The average age of EV is also less than combustible engine cars, which could also be a factor.

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

You didn't post the weights????????

It's on wheels, that extra weight is almost irrelevant.  And none of that @rpm BS.  Torque is instant with EVs.

 

Y'all people need to test drive one, before posting in the future.  If you enjoy driving, and want performance, you are missing out with an ICEV.

 

Fact, not just my opinion.

[VocalNeal]

^ of course the extra weight is relevant. Like say going uphill.

No point in having twice the power if the vehicle weights twice as much.

[blackcab]

What makes me pause for thought is if an EV catches fire while parked in a condominium garage. In Bangkok it's normal for the first 7 floors of a modern condominium building to be used for parking spaces.

 

If an EV caught fire the building sprinkler system wouldn't extinguish the fire. The fire brigade couldn't get their trucks into the garage as the ceilings are too low, meaning they would have to use hoses installed in the building or run their own hoses. There is little chance of towing the burning vehicle out of the garage.

 

My concern is about structural damage to the condominium during a sustained fire. In a sustained fire the concrete and steel of the building can be damaged leading to risk of collapse.

 

With car insurance payouts in Thailand capped at a low level who would pay for all that potential damage?

 

If this becomes an issue in Europe/UK, etc then I can see additional fireproofing being required in multistorey and underground car parks.

 

This is not going to stop EVs, it's more a case of building regulations potentially changing to meet new requirements.

[TimeMachine]

34 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure if your post in jest or not.  But if not, then you really need to test drive one of the EVs, if you enjoy driving.  There really is no comparison on the performance level of EVs over ICEVs.

 

I didn't even bother test driving our EV, as simply buying the EV version of the ICE version we already owned.  Just ready the specs was enough for me.

ICE:

Maximum power (kW (PS)/ rpm)84 (114) / 6,000

Maximum torque (Nm/ rpm)150 / 4,500

 

EV;  MP; 177(130)  MT: 280 Nm

I think its more about the vroom vroom sound and the rumble. Driving in EV is super smooth and quite.  I prefer that but appreciate it is a bit gay compared to the manly roar of explosive petrol