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Do you aim to die with zero?

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The trouble is knowing when you will go , obviously if your past 80 then time is limited 

Most will leave between 78 & ,84 

 

A guy at my work who is 57yo just got a diagnosis of 1 year for his cancer but is still coming to work during his treatment,so he knows his time 

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  • No.   I'd like to be ahead of the game and pop my clogs owing a lot of money to a bank.

  • No, I shall leave as much as I can to my partner (40 years younger than me). He already owns all property here in Thailand (land, house, car) and I have arrangements in place for him to receive the 2/

  • I told my old lady recently that I planned to spend all my money before the end. She goes, "what about me?" Well, what about you. I've bought 2 homes, 2 vehicles, you don't work, you don't save the mo

Predicting one's death is easy. Predicting it accurately without helping it along is difficult. 

 

I spend all I want and plan to die with more than ever. 

20 hours ago, mfd101 said:

No, I shall leave as much as I can to my partner (40 years younger than me). He already owns all property here in Thailand (land, house, car) and I have arrangements in place for him to receive the 2/3 of my Oz superannuation to which he is entitled, plus my investments.

 

    Will be be blowing your trumpet when you've stopped blowing it ?

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Its a puzzle - what to do for the best?  I will of course take care of my nearest and dearest but that's in the form of property left in my will.

 

Its the 'cash' side of things that's difficult to work out - you want to have a good time but without a 'sell by date', how do you budget?

 

I know this better than most. I got cancer nearly nine years ago and things didn't look too good - 2 to 4 years they said. I decided cancer wasn't going to cheat me out of my retirement so I cashed in a small private pension, 'retired' and set about my bucket list.  Nine years later, the cancer is gone but so is the money - back to work!!! :laugh:

14 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

The last 6 months are often medically very expensive

very true that, i'm not leaving it to hospitals though just for a few extra months

My two sons who live and work in Dubai as musicians have had it tough since Covid, so I have had to help them out. Youngest got 'caught' using cannabis so 10 weeks in confinement, and it cost me 23k quid to get him out on bail.

But I said to them, it's only money you WILL NOT get when I kick it.

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42 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Will be be blowing your trumpet when you've stopped blowing it ?

Why not. Sounds like he was a long time public servant in Australia if his partner can get it after he goes. Likely didn't retire early. Worked a hard days work. The question was asked. Good for him. 

14 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

I'll spend down to zero.... but will leave cash in an envelope to cover body removal, autopsy and funeral and house cleaning.

What day / date / year & time will you die?

9 hours ago, mikebike said:

Almost exactly the same. Weird 😄

I don't think it's weird, and I also think it might be a lot more common than reading this forum might suggest.

 

I also think there is a sizable quiet population who aren't the 60 something with the 20 something and look like a normal married couple in the West.

 

Me and MrsG have discussed what happens as we enter our twilight years, none of us know when we will depart, but for all of us it's an inevitability.

 

Our kids, both American and Thai are now in their 20/30's and would never expect  anything from us, but if I(we) can leave them something I'd say my work is done

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On 12/27/2023 at 11:21 PM, sidjameson said:

Of course an impossible task for most but it's always been my hope to not die with unspent wealth. 

Though knowing when to draw down and by how much is proving to be a very tricky question.

If money is that important to you, I wish you the very best of luck.

I would like to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming in horror and terror, like his passengers. 

8 hours ago, PJ71 said:

What day / date / year & time will you die?

 

All depends on when my quality of life takes a turn for the worse.... then within a week of that.

10 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Why not. Sounds like he was a long time public servant in Australia if his partner can get it after he goes. Likely didn't retire early. Worked a hard days work. The question was asked. Good for him. 

I had to laugh at this , funniest thing I read , A Government Public Servant doing a "hard days work " , 🤣🤣🤣

 

As a matter of interest which Government department did you work for that you did a hard days work?

 

Ones blowing a trumpet and your blowing a whistle 

 

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Will be be blowing your trumpet when you've stopped blowing it ?

😁 he will be blowing another's guys trumpet I imagine 

32 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

😁 he will be blowing another's guys trumpet I imagine 

 

Or, a flute, maybe...

2 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

If money is that important to you, I wish you the very best of luck.

I would like to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming in horror and terror, like his passengers. 

"Like his passengers"!😱😳Train driver ? Pilot ????

5 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

"Like his passengers"!😱😳Train driver ? Pilot ????

Grandfather.  Back in the day, we did whatever.  I remember when people imagined Australia like Crocodile Dundee,   I went there once - Australia, and also Dundee, and I've never seen so many people so white - Australia, and also Dundee.  

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

I had to laugh at this , funniest thing I read , A Government Public Servant doing a "hard days work " , 🤣🤣🤣

 

As a matter of interest which Government department did you work for that you did a hard days work?

 

Ones blowing a trumpet and your blowing a whistle 

 

Not easy to do nothing like may have been in the case in the olden days. It is clear in the computer age if there is an errant worker or boss not pulling their weight. 

There is a good work life balance though. Working from home helps. 

On 12/28/2023 at 5:39 AM, Ralf001 said:

I'll spend down to zero.... but will leave cash in an envelope to cover body removal, autopsy and funeral and house cleaning.

But, how considerate of you.

6 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

All depends on when my quality of life takes a turn for the worse.... then within a week of that.

When will your quality of life take a turn for the worse?

 

My point is ( that you seem to have missed ) that we don't know.

Unless you commit suicide, not recommended, you can not say if you will die with or without money. Personally I would prefer to have cash left when I go.

On 12/27/2023 at 10:21 PM, sidjameson said:

Of course an impossible task for most but it's always been my hope to not die with unspent wealth. 

Though knowing when to draw down and by how much is proving to be a very tricky question.

No amount of personal wealth will change my spending habits and lifestyle. I simply don’t obsess over money, there are too many other good things in life, money is an art of compartmentalization of ancillaries.

32 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Unless you commit suicide, not recommended, you can not say if you will die with or without money. Personally I would prefer to have cash left when I go.

Personally i think it's better to choose an end date rather than have a miserable torturous slow ending which is likely

34 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

When will your quality of life take a turn for the worse?

 

My point is ( that you seem to have missed ) that we don't know.

From a health point ive had a bit of an ordinary 2023.

Severe Pnumonia - Both lungs, induced coma and icu for two months, then 1 month ward recovery.

Perforated large intestine - emergency surgery to cut and shut and bypass to colostomy bag, reversal surgery after 3 months.

7cm malignant tumour on kidney -  removed last week.

 

Total stay in hospital for 2023 - 127 days.

 

Wont take much more for me to decide my quality of life has taken a turn for the worse but suffice to say if the cancer comes back it will bye bye everyone.

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Personally i think it's better to choose an end date rather than have a miserable torturous slow ending which is likely

Why is it likely? If you have a disease such as Cancer I would agree but not everyone have such a complaint.

8 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

I don't think it's weird, and I also think it might be a lot more common than reading this forum might suggest.

 

I also think there is a sizable quiet population who aren't the 60 something with the 20 something and look like a normal married couple in the West.

 

Me and MrsG have discussed what happens as we enter our twilight years, none of us know when we will depart, but for all of us it's an inevitability.

 

Our kids, both American and Thai are now in their 20/30's and would never expect  anything from us, but if I(we) can leave them something I'd say my work is done

Well said. Other than my wife n kids being farang, and my condos in Toronto we have reached the same conclusion! 😃

34 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Why is it likely? If you have a disease such as Cancer I would agree but not everyone have such a complaint.

go and have a look in the nursing homes, see if you fancy that? expensive for most

I am hopeful that I can be in a fit state of mind to transfer funds from New Zealand to my daughter here, this after instructions in my NZ Will for a portion of it to go to my nephews in Australia and Canada.

 

That will leave my daughter here with a sizeable chunk of money, which may mean that she doesn't have to work for many years.

 

I have made a Will in New Zealand and in Thailand to cover everything that I can think of and if I do feel like I am tired of this world/life/health, then the helium gas and a small bucket will be my final act.......in the meantime I will carry on enjoying my food and wine and a little social life, and just hope that I am compos mentis when the end is near. 

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