1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

This is a worldwide problem... not just Thailand.  It has been accelerated by the loss of morals and ethics that used to be taught that the liberal left no longer gives value to.  Personal accountability has never been learned starting with the generation raised by baby boomer mothers... participation trophies abound. 

" Personal accountability has never been learned starting with the generation raised by baby boomer mothers... participation trophies abound. "

 

True in the West in my opinion but is it true in Thailand?

Was there a generational change in Thai attitudes toward child raising?

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The thwarted robbery occurred at around 3:00 AM

By chance, a police investigation team was patrolling nearby and managed to apprehend one suspect—a 14-year-old Thai teenager. Later, around 8 AM, Pattaya police managed to round up the remaining four suspects, aged between 13 and 15 years old.

3am...

When I turned 16 years old, my parents allowed me to stay up until 10pm... 

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I saw something on the internet about an attempted robbery here in the U.S. of A., by two teenagers who had a handgun (illegally possessed by the under 21 age offenders and possibly a stolen handgun). I think ages were 13 and 14. 

 

The man who they tried to rob with the handgun, had a legally concealed handgun.   He, apparently fearing for his life, killed the two teenagers!

This type of behavior is becoming more and more common in large US cities.  Unfortunately, there are not a lot of penalties for doing so for youth in this age group.  In the case mentioned above, they picked the wrong target to rob.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

16 minutes ago, steven100 said:

while I do respect your comment & opinion,  

I still blame the parents,  as even though as we know the kids are handed over to grandma & grandpa to look after, the parents still go and visit when they get off work or holidays come around so they can still be responsible and ensure their kids are not out at 3am ... I am sure they call and talk to the grand parents so tell them what should be happening and what is not allowed etc .... 

 

The parents are entirely to blame, for not being parents. Proper parents raise their kids, they don't pass them on to others. Some might, might do what you say and actually visit their kid now and then, but bring a parent is not a part-time job.

3 hours ago, Ricardo99 said:

Land of Smiles my ass.....Land of Knives more like.

..........and guns!

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

Just wanted to know what was the reason/s those youths have attacked the man, not blaming anyone...

On foot on the streets at 3am=bait=asking for trouble

Too late for the young gun

To lead a simple life

Too late for the young gun, I said

This is the year of the knife.

 

….. Tears For Fears … 1989

3 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Why are care proceedings not considered if they are allowed to roam in a gang at 3am?

Is being outside at 3am illegal?  There are no curfews any longer in Thailand, are there?

3 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:

Assault using a deadly weapon, by anyone, regardless of age, requires the ultmate penalty.

What do you think that the penalty for attempted robbery, which is what happened in this case, should be?

3 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

Why are care proceedings not considered if they are allowed to roam in a gang at 3am?

 

Also consideration should be given to lowering the age of criminal responsibility to 10 years as in some other countries.

Thailand.

No person can be held criminally responsible for an offence committed while under the age of seven. A child older than seven but younger than 14 cannot be “punished”, but can be subjected a number of sentences including detention in a school or place of training and instruction. [Penal Code, Sections 73 and 74(1)-(5)]

4 hours ago, Ricardo99 said:

Land of Smiles my ass.....Land of Knives more like.

Young kids too. Thailand is becoming as bad as UK for knife crimes by youngsters. Sadly as in the UK and Australia their identities are protected by law and all they get is a slap on the wrist. 

15 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Is being outside at 3am illegal?  There are no curfews any longer in Thailand, are there?

Not illegal at all, but if the "nearby police patrol" saw a group of young teenagers out at 3am and stopped them, perhaps they could have see the long weapons they had with them, and prevented the attack.

Line them up against a wall and lodge a 9mm slug under the base of their skulls.

Soi Yensabai, where else🙄

Seems the robbers believe all Arabs are rich and carry tons of cash and jewelry?

 

The Kuwaiti tourist is not only a quality but a qualified tourist.

Qualified fighter 🫣

37 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What do you think that the penalty for attempted robbery, which is what happened in this case, should be?

In the states in most places, this would be a 5 year sentence, mandatory, with a max of 20. Enforcement of crimes is the only way they will learn to think twice before committing them. Here, as has been said, parenting is lacking to the point of more children raised by grandparents than any other country, up to and over 35%,A kid gets time when he tries to do this he will learn a hard lesson, as will others who see the penalty being applied. The same thing goes for lack of enforcement on the roads. They don't care if up to 65 are killed daily. If they did, the laws already on the book would be enforced, including the minimum of 15 years old legally driving and wearing helmets.

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

Will be Interesting to know whey have they set up upon this young Kuwaiti guy in particular?

was he wearing an expensive items, did he insulted a Thai person, was he hostile to anyone?...

You ever stopped to think it was nothing personal and motivated solely by greed? That if the teenagers all had knives they came prepared? Why is your immediate  thought that the Kuwait guy must have done something to provoke it?

Probably the children of police officers...

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

Will be Interesting to know whey have they set up upon this young Kuwaiti guy in particular?

was he wearing an expensive items, did he insulted a Thai person, was he hostile to anyone?...

"opportunity for what? was he wearing expensive jewellery? was he flashing a fat wads of cash around?.

Have you ever heard of a lone person flashing cash around or insulting a gang of thugs?

 

"Just wanted to know what was the reason/s those youths have attacked the man, not blaming anyone..."

Not even the scum involved it would appear !

 

 

No it would not be interesting or even relevant to know anything of the sort. But I will put you out of your misery anyway.   He was alone,  a foreigner,  and being a kuwaiti ,  is probably not built like a brick $hithouse so he was (mistakenly in this case) identified as a potential victim by this gang of feral scrotes.  You subsequent posts appear to be attempts at mitigating the actions of these scum, you should be ashamed of yourself.  It is this liberal progressive attitude that is the main reason reports of this nature are all too common, coupled with a complete lack of effective punishment.

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

They simply learn there are no repercussions

Its far worse than that,  they learn that their actions are considered worthy of a twisted "respect" from their peers, and will garner them much coveted "likes" on various social media platforms, Not to mention the financial rewards from robbery. All pretty much symptomatic of  society in general failing due to modern "progressive liberal attitudes"

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

50/50 they aren't being raised by parents but by grandparents, who are only doing so out of a sense of duty as the parents are elsewhere and can't be bothered. It's the culture here. And when I was in my teens I was never, ever allowed to be out roaming the streets at 3am. It just didn't happen. But then, I wasn't raised in a country where kids do whatever they want and are never disciplined.

 

As for age of criminal responsibility, what nonsense is that? If they commit a crime then they are criminals and should face the consequences, no matter what age they are. What has age got to do with it? The thugs simply exploit it and know they are untouchable.

You are from North Korea? 

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Anyone caught trying to rob somebody should be identified and their photos should be spread throughout the nation like the thieving street rats that they truly are. Fortunately, this kind of thing is fairly uncommon with regard to foreigners getting robbed here. Let's hope it remains that way. 

                      Somehow I doubt it will remain this way,  recent events in Sa Kaew and elsewhere have received extensive media coverage highlighting a common issue with out of control feral teenage gangs,  many of their own "promotional" "tik tok" video clips have been broadcast on national TV.  Effectively giving them the fame and notoriety they seek and indeed feed off

                       These gangs, all basically bullies, have no reservations in attacking elderly and other such vulnerable members  of their own communities, and it is doubtful that foreigners would be afforded ot treated with any more "respect"

                       A senior police officer in Sa kaew even said that it was wrong to call these groups "gangs"  as they were merely groups of disorderly youths that was on TV a few days ago. With that attitude, and the usual "conflicts of interest"   there is little hope of any effective police intervention, so until some sort of vigilante action , Ie somebody kicking the $hit out of a few of them (and getting away with it)  is made public, I fear we will be hearing plenty more stories like this one especially in the short term 

20 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

You are from North Korea?

You are a "progressive liberal" ?  If so you should take this opportunity to apologise , as its the lily livered liberal policies that are pretty much responsible for  this sort of behaviour 

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

 

Seems the robbers believe all Arabs are rich and carry tons of cash and jewelry?

These sort  believe all foreigners to be rich and somewhat beneath them  and as such all are legitimate targets

1 hour ago, Cabradelmar said:

Probably the children of police officers...

Considering the number of police, and the nature of extended families here the is a very good chance that at least one of them will be related to a police officer somewhere along the line.  and that is all it takes 

2 hours ago, bbko said:

Not illegal at all, but if the "nearby police patrol" saw a group of young teenagers out at 3am and stopped them, perhaps they could have see the long weapons they had with them, and prevented the attack.

What "nearby police patrol"   that does not exist here , even as a concept

Off topic deflection posts and replies about this being in the US, UK, and a worldwide problem have been removed as this topic is in the Pattaya News forum, so the problems are Thailand related. 

5 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

What "nearby police patrol"   that does not exist here , even as a concept

From the OP;

"a police investigation team was patrolling nearby and managed to apprehend one suspect—a 14-year-old Thai teenager."

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The parents are entirely to blame, for not being parents. Proper parents raise their kids, they don't pass them on to others. Some might, might do what you say and actually visit their kid now and then, but bring a parent is not a part-time job.

Completely agree, grandparents are generally out of touch with the activities of kids and often pretty much incapable of administering any sort of effective discipline, It is clear that kids can understand , and should  be taught, the difference between right and wrong at relatively young age pre school even ,  but, a bit  like a vaccine, a booster or three is required around the time of adolescence. 

If they are out of control to the extent that many of them are by the age of 14 ,  what will they be like at 21 ?    the future is rather worrying for those of us approaching old age.

 

6 minutes ago, bbko said:

From the OP;

"a police investigation team was patrolling nearby and managed to apprehend one suspect—a 14-year-old Thai teenager."

Regardless of what it said in the OP  it just doesn't happen.  Don't believe all you read in the papers,    Furthermore, "Investigative police" do not undertake routine patrols

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

............cut their goolies off!

They havnt grown them yet