Bum gun in bathroom leaking / broken

[bbi1]

If the bum gun in the bathroom is leaking / broken, is this the owner's responsibility or the tenant's responsibility to buy a new one and put the new one in? I would've thought it's the owner's responsibility as the tenant has moved in and it was in working state. I think the tenant's responsibility is only for changing light bulbs if they become fused. Correct me if I'm wrong?

[mfd101]

Not sure of the law but common practicality should probably suggest the answer. Fix it yourself, for goodness' sake! Are you completely helpless?

[HauptmannUK]

Those things are so cheap and easy to change yourself (literally couple of minutes) its hardly worth the bother of scheduling someone to call round.

[eyeman]

Jesus christ, they cost like 100-200 baht and it's screw in within 5 seconds, they all start leaking eventually usually just a trickle

[ravip]

Here are the prices from cheap upwards...

Dont waste your time and the owners for things like these.

 

https://www.homepro.co.th/sales/bathroom?ca=BAT0702&q=&b=&brandCA=BAT11,BAT0902,BAT01,BAT13,BAT05,BAT0205,BAT0211,BAT0210,BAT0601,BAT07,BAT03,BAT10,BAT0213,PLU0501,PLU0503,PLU0502

[bbi1]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:00 AM, HauptmannUK said:

Those things are so cheap and easy to change yourself (literally couple of minutes) its hardly worth the bother of scheduling someone to call round.

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  On 1/30/2024 at 4:03 AM, eyeman said:

Jesus christ, they cost like 100-200 baht and it's screw in within 5 seconds, they all start leaking eventually usually just a trickle

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Does the technician need to turn off all the water to the whole condo room from the valve outside or can you just turn off the valve for the bum gun next to the toilet when changing it?

[IvorBiggun2]

[FritsSikkink]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:21 AM, bbi1 said:

 

  

 

 

Does the technician need to turn off all the water to the whole condo room from the valve outside or can you just turn off the valve for the bum gun next to the toilet when changing it?

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You can turn of the valve for the bum gun.

[JackGats]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:21 AM, bbi1 said:

 

  

 

 

Does the technician need to turn off all the water to the whole condo room from the valve outside or can you just turn off the valve for the bum gun next to the toilet when changing it?

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Try turning off the valve for the bum gun until you see no more water trickling, then replace with new. Some valves are frozen solid by scale though.

 

I don't entirely agree with "not bothering the landlord". The landlord is supposed to rent out facilities that are in working order.

[lopburi3]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:28 AM, JackGats said:

Try turning off the valve for the bum gun until you see no more water trickling, then replace with new. Some valves are frozen solid by scale though.

 

I don't entirely agree with "not bothering the landlord". The landlord is supposed to rent out facilities that are in working order.

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It was in working order from OP

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the tenant has moved in and it was in working state

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[G_Money]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:21 AM, bbi1 said:

 

  

 

 

Does the technician need to turn off all the water to the whole condo room from the valve outside or can you just turn off the valve for the bum gun next to the toilet when changing it?

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Just close the valve that feeds water to the bum gun.

 

First rule of living in Thailand when moving into a house or condo.

 

 Go to homepro or similar and buy all new bum guns and replace them.  At your expense .

Unless of course, you enjoy someone else’s a-s shard with yours.

[bbi1]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:28 AM, JackGats said:

Try turning off the valve for the bum gun until you see no more water trickling, then replace with new. Some valves are frozen solid by scale though.

 

I don't entirely agree with "not bothering the landlord". The landlord is supposed to rent out facilities that are in working order.

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  On 1/30/2024 at 4:34 AM, G_Money said:

Just close the valve that feeds water to the bum gun.

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  On 1/30/2024 at 4:27 AM, FritsSikkink said:

You can turn of the valve for the bum gun.

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The problem is, even when completely turning off the valve for the bum gun, the bum gun still leaks water the exact same as when the valve is on. I would've thought turning off the value would stop any water from going into the bum gun therefore no leak from it.

[G_Money]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:34 AM, bbi1 said:

 

  

 

 

The problem is, even when completely turning off the valve for the bum gun, the bum gun still leaks water the exact same as when the valve is on. I would've thought turning off the value would stop any water from going into the bum gun therefore no leak from it.

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After the valve is closed release the remaining pressure and water left over simply by activating the nozzle.  The remaining pressure/water will be released.

[bbi1]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:38 AM, G_Money said:

After the valve is closed release the remaining pressure and water left over simply by activating the nozzle.  The remaining pressure/water will be released.

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How long do you have to hold the lever to activate the nozzle to release the remaining pressure? I held it for over a minute after closing the bum gun valve, and the water just keeps on dripping out of the nozzle at a decent pace. If I stop holding the lever, the water just keeps dripping down the side of the hose. The bum gun valve has been fully closed. Do I also need to fully close the next valve that supplies water to the toilet cistern too?

[lopburi3]

If just dripping when press for spray should not be any issue to install a new nozzle.  Often shut off valves do not close completely as are seldom used.  It could also just be a loose nozzle with leakage from poor seal to rubber washer of washer old/hard and need new one.  But a new nozzle (or even complete set) is not that much.

[G_Money]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:44 AM, bbi1 said:

How long do you have to hold the lever to activate the nozzle to release the remaining pressure? I held it for over a minute after closing the bum gun valve, and the water just keeps on dripping out of the nozzle at a decent pace. If I stop holding the lever, the water just keeps dripping down the side of the hose. The bum gun valve has been fully closed. Do I also need to fully close the next valve that supplies water to the toilet cistern too?

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the pressure should be released within seconds.

 

from your description it appears the valve may have to be replaced due to age, deposits etc

[bbi1]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:49 AM, G_Money said:

the pressure should be released within seconds.

 

from your description it appears the valve may have to be replaced due to age, deposits etc

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If the valve needs to be replaced, surely it would be the landlords responsibility as this has nothing to do with the tenant as it's a fixture into the building of the existing plumbing? Maybe I'll just buy a new bum gun and ask the condo technician to fix it.

[lopburi3]

If the spray is just a dribble when spray head is pressed on the valve is not the issue - the spray head/hose are what needs to be checked.  As said a dribble from wall will not prevent this check/change.  If you have the same strong spray with wall valve turned on and off - then the main supply line would have to be turned off when making replacement (and wall valve should then be changed).  But this does not sound like what you describe.  

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 1/30/2024 at 3:48 AM, bbi1 said:

If the bum gun in the bathroom is leaking / broken, is this the owner's responsibility or the tenant's responsibility to buy a new one and put the new one in?

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Screw a new one on to the water pipe, they cost bugger all and you can take it with you to your next place along with the light bulbs.

[connda]

  On 1/30/2024 at 3:48 AM, bbi1 said:

If the bum gun in the bathroom is leaking / broken, is this the owner's responsibility or the tenant's responsibility to buy a new one and put the new one in? I would've thought it's the owner's responsibility as the tenant has moved in and it was in working state. I think the tenant's responsibility is only for changing light bulbs if they become fused. Correct me if I'm wrong?

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You've been here at least since 2013 and you haven't figured this out yet?

Just hire someone to fix your bum-gun.  It will cost you 100 or 200 THB for the labor (put into perspective $5 or so.  The bum-gun?  Less than $5 buck. 

TIT my friend.  Wait until you leave your apartment and your landlord takes your entire security deposit. 

[FritsSikkink]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:44 AM, bbi1 said:

How long do you have to hold the lever to activate the nozzle to release the remaining pressure? I held it for over a minute after closing the bum gun valve, and the water just keeps on dripping out of the nozzle at a decent pace. If I stop holding the lever, the water just keeps dripping down the side of the hose. The bum gun valve has been fully closed. Do I also need to fully close the next valve that supplies water to the toilet cistern too?

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Just attach the new bum gun, you are in the bathroom, so a bit of water spilled won't hurt you. 

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:53 AM, bbi1 said:

If the valve needs to be replaced, surely it would be the landlords responsibility as this has nothing to do with the tenant as it's a fixture into the building of the existing plumbing?

 

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 Finally the correct answer. 

[scorecard]

  On 1/30/2024 at 3:55 AM, mfd101 said:

Not sure of the law but common practicality should probably suggest the answer. Fix it yourself, for goodness' sake! Are you completely helpless?

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Acceptable replacements are not expensive and 5 minutes and easy to install.  Available at Home Pro, Global, Thai Watsadu, Big C etc. 

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:28 AM, JackGats said:

Some valves are frozen solid by scale though.

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Then it can be turned off at the stopcock usually near to the meter or under a sink.

[sometimewoodworker]

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:53 AM, bbi1 said:

If the valve needs to be replaced, surely it would be the landlords responsibility as this has nothing to do with the tenant as it's a fixture into the building of the existing plumbing?

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You might think so, and the landlord could even agree (possibly not but probably) and in 6 months or more may eventually do something. 
However if you want it working well today then you do it or pay for someone to do it, then you can try to get the landlord to allow you to deduct it from your next rent payment. Some will, some will not

[sungod]

Actually raises a very good point, slightly off topic but who should I contact for changing a light bulb?

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 1/30/2024 at 5:01 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

  On 1/30/2024 at 4:53 AM, bbi1 said:

If the valve needs to be replaced, surely it would be the landlords responsibility as this has nothing to do with the tenant as it's a fixture into the building of the existing plumbing?

 

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 Finally the correct answer. 

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But rarely worth the effort.  If he is really so concerned I wonder why he hasn't just asked the landlord/agent to do it?

[Liverpool Lou]

  On 1/30/2024 at 5:03 AM, sungod said:

Actually raises a very good point, slightly off topic but who should I contact for changing a light bulb?

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Call the company that constructed the building.

[BenStark]

  On 1/30/2024 at 5:03 AM, sungod said:

Actually raises a very good point, slightly off topic but who should I contact for changing a light bulb?

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4 strong Thai men, who will turn around the table you stand on while you hold the bulb

[lopburi3]

  On 1/30/2024 at 5:03 AM, sungod said:

Actually raises a very good point, slightly off topic but who should I contact for changing a light bulb?

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