Elderly Swiss cyclist killed in hit-and-run in Sattahip district

[Scouse123]

9 hours ago, advancebooking said:

you get up at 3am? why

 

what time do you go to bed each night? do you nap midday?

 

 

That's not unusual in the countryside.

 

I, when I am on an exercise period, get up around 3.30am and just after 4am I am on the local lake doing 5 laps which is equivalent to five miles around.(I measured it)

 

At that time there are plenty of older, and some younger, people who work the morning markets out exercising.

[scotsdude]

That's why I use the lake cycling track in Pattaya.... 

[Chongalulu]

9 hours ago, neverere said:

No Thai's use bicycles? Are you sure about that. I see many daily, not a stitch of Lycra to be seen.

 

Naked Thai cyclists?! I do hope they were the appropriate age and gender! 😋

[Scouse123]

Many years ago I had a black pickup. I bought it new. Looking back, I don't know what I must have been thinking to choose that colour.

 

It was hit twice whilst parked, once whilst I was sat there outside a mom-and-pop shop by a driver who had been drinking. One accident I witnessed where he actually stopped, he was drunk and worked at the local land office.

 

The other was a glancing hit-and-run, very common up here. He knocked off my electric mirror, and some trims I had on the car. He also damaged the rear and front doors. Not only that, but he looked, saw the damage, and hit the accelerator. He had no rear number plates and it was an old pickup.

 

I changed shortly after to a white coloured car and have changed my car three times since and stuck with White.

 

 Up here on roads in the sticks, many are unlit, and we have many where they turn half the lights off at a certain time to save money, it's just better to be seen.

 

I still see the dimwits up here in pitch black conditions driving motorbikes and riding bicycles and not opening their lights. Even those pushing handcarts are as bad, and the only display at the back are reflective old CDs hanging off the rear end as a warning to drivers.

 

Pure stupidity, as in the immediate area we have one of the biggest sugar factories in Thailand and 12 wheeler trucks are part of the life up here, constantly rolling on the roads 24/7 delivering sugar cane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Bert]

10 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

You average 33km every day?

 

I don't believe you. 

I ride 350 - 500km per week or 15-19 hrs 33km is a warm up.

[Scouse123]

RIP to the man who has passed away, it's sad to see and hear of people passing in such away whilst enjoying retirement.

 

People really need to get a grip and understand how dangerous the roads are here and European or Western road rules and sense just does not apply.

[Roo Island]

11 hours ago, NONG CHOK said:

I was a professional cyclist in my younger days and I wouldn't ride a bike at anytime in Pattaya.

Nor on any busy road here in Thailand. Not worth the risk.

[JeffersLos]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i do about 100km 4 days a week 

 

First you say 12,000k a year, now you say you do 20,000km. 

 

50,000km next? 

[Darksidedude]

best to to ride at all in Thailand extremely dangerous 

[BE88]

1 hour ago, teutonian said:

Yes

 

The bicycle is also in good condition and does not appear to have been hit by a car, all of which pic are false apart from the dead Swiss man.

[Kerryd]

Where would AseanNow be if it weren't for The Thaiger copying news stories from the Bangkok Post !

Love that we get our Pattaya news from a Phuket based media site that copies it's stories from a Bangkok news site !

Riding bikes at night here is like playing Russian Roulette. Even without the drunk/untrained drivers on their cell phones, you still have crappy, poorly maintained roads with numerous hazards.

It's bad enough in the daylight when you can see what is happening ! I go for my morning walk just before sunrise when it's light enough to see but I can be back before the sun is glaring in my eyes.
And it's light enough I can see any new hazards along the way to go with the old ones that have been there forever. Like rebar sticking up through the concrete. Bent manhole covers almost falling into the drains. Garbage tossed on the side of the road. Construction material (including left over sand and concrete slowly being washed down the roads). Low hanging wires that you hope aren't electrical.

And of course, the drivers who, even at 6 am, are not paying attention to anything but the phone in front of their nose. I always walk "against the traffic" so I can see the motorcycles and cars heading at me or coming from side roads.

So many times I've had to dart off the side of road into a shop "parking" area or behind a power pole to avoid getting scraped by a car/scooter that isn't paying attention or someone coming from a little side-soi that zooms to the main road and starts turning into it before having to stop because there's oncoming traffic. 

At night though ? It's probably way safer to be on a scooter than walking - or biking - on the side of those same roads !

[Henryford]

Some of theses drivers are scum. They knock over an old man and leave him in the road to die. What sort of person does that? RIP But as others have said madness to go cycling at 11.30 pm just as people are leaving the bars after drinking all night.

[Aussie999]

12 hours ago, transam said:

R.I.P. chap..

But riding a black pushbike at night, in town does seem a bit recless at that age, or any age, for that matter.......... 🤔

Ah, yes  blame the victim, without having been there, the bike was well lit  as per the photo... just what is it, that makes some of you so low, as to blame the victim... geez, and I though worms were lowlife.

[Expat68]

12 hours ago, transam said:

R.I.P. chap..

But riding a black pushbike at night, in town does seem a bit recless at that age, or any age, for that matter.......... 🤔

Depends how many lights he had. I ride my bicycle with 1 light at the front, two at the back and I also wear a yellow fluorescent jacket

[Cake Monster]

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

It's fine most of the time, i do about 12k km a year

Untill this kind of thing happens

[Lenthai]

Asean news, for your information, the second accident was more than a year ago, NOT a couple of days!

[Old Croc]

12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

It's fine most of the time, i do about 12k km a year

It's always fine until it's not.

It's quite possible for one person to ride, or drive, on Thailand's roads for decades without incident, but that doesn't mean those roads are safe statistically.

It just means you won the lottery on what are proven to be among the most dangerous traffic conditions on the planet. 

The strict rules and at times over policing, in our home countries can be irksome, but Thailand's alternative of virtually nil policing of road rules and drunk driving until after an accident, means you need luck to survive the carnage. 

Riding a bicycle "on Sukhumvit Road, in the Sattahip district of Chon Buri, late on Sunday night" is pushing your luck.

[Expat68]

20 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

Where would AseanNow be if it weren't for The Thaiger copying news stories from the Bangkok Post !

Love that we get our Pattaya news from a Phuket based media site that copies it's stories from a Bangkok news site !

Riding bikes at night here is like playing Russian Roulette. Even without the drunk/untrained drivers on their cell phones, you still have crappy, poorly maintained roads with numerous hazards.

It's bad enough in the daylight when you can see what is happening ! I go for my morning walk just before sunrise when it's light enough to see but I can be back before the sun is glaring in my eyes.
And it's light enough I can see any new hazards along the way to go with the old ones that have been there forever. Like rebar sticking up through the concrete. Bent manhole covers almost falling into the drains. Garbage tossed on the side of the road. Construction material (including left over sand and concrete slowly being washed down the roads). Low hanging wires that you hope aren't electrical.

And of course, the drivers who, even at 6 am, are not paying attention to anything but the phone in front of their nose. I always walk "against the traffic" so I can see the motorcycles and cars heading at me or coming from side roads.

So many times I've had to dart off the side of road into a shop "parking" area or behind a power pole to avoid getting scraped by a car/scooter that isn't paying attention or someone coming from a little side-soi that zooms to the main road and starts turning into it before having to stop because there's oncoming traffic. 

At night though ? It's probably way safer to be on a scooter than walking - or biking - on the side of those same roads !

Where I live at 23-00, there is virtually no one on the roads at this time

[Jiggo]

We do not know if he had bicycle lights and if it would have saved him, yet I see quite a few farang idiots without any around Jomtien at night. 

[H1w4yR1da]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The driver of the pickup truck, identified as Samreang Unan, confessed to colliding with the cyclist, later identified as Win Scherrenberg, alleging the cyclist had suddenly changed lanes.

 

 

In other words, 'pissed up pick up driver, playing on his phone, ploughs into the back of the cyclist.'

[rwill]

10 hours ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

You're making a weird faces when I'm asking if the photo was generated by AI. But Look at:

 

1. text at sign, what language is even that?

2. symbol at sign, what road sign is that?

3. what's with people faces

4. what with their siluet?

 

I don't think were are looking here at real photo of the accident scene.

 

 

Also did it rain last night?

[jacko45k]

Just now, Jiggo said:

We do not know if he had bicycle lights and if it would have saved him, yet I see quite a few farang idiots without any around Jomtien at night. 

I see far more Thai idiots without lights on motorcycles at night!

[jesimps]

13 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I wouldn't cycle in an urban area at 11:30 PM. People out on the road after drinking would be my biggest concern. People with night vision problems and driving around with uncorrected vision is a major concern as well.

 

I live out in the countryside and get up at 3 AM to exercise, including cycling. At that time in the morning there is virtually no traffic on the road, and I am convinced it may be the safest time of the day to bicycle in Thailand.

 

Terribly saddening to read this type of story. There but for the grace of God.

 

Everyone here has those blacked out windscreens which make it virtually impossible to see cyclists and pedestrians at night. I refuse to drive my daughter's car after dark for precisely this reason and no matter what lectures I give her to get it changed, she refuses. Even during the day I feel like my vision's impaired, it feels like driving at dusk. 

 

 

 

 

[TigerandDog]

11 hours ago, JeffersLos said:

 

You average 33km every day?

 

I don't believe you. 

a doubting Thomas eh.

 

33km / day average is a short daily ride. It takes about 1 1/4 hours on a road bike and around 1.5 hours on a mountain bike.

 

My wife and I don't ride every day but our rides ( 3 x / week ) range between 45 -80kms, so 33km rides are a breeze.

[actonion]

13 hours ago, transam said:

R.I.P. chap..

But riding a black pushbike at night, in town does seem a bit recless at that age, or any age, for that matter.......... 🤔

Riding a bicycle at any time of day or night is a deathwish in Thailand

[KannikaP]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i do about 100km 4 days a week 

5 hours a day @ 20kph?

[Expat68]

2 minutes ago, actonion said:

Riding a bicycle at any time of day or night is a deathwish in Thailand

So is driving a car/motorcycle intoxicated and getting a motorbike taxi home

[Roo Island]

46 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

Ah, yes  blame the victim, without having been there, the bike was well lit  as per the photo... just what is it, that makes some of you so low, as to blame the victim... geez, and I though worms were lowlife.

With respect to the victim. Riding a bike at night on a very busy road during the rain here is suicide. Heck, it's dangerous at any time.

[KannikaP]

47 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

the bike was well lit  as per the photo

You mean the photo showing a Myanmar road sign?

[Roo Island]

3 minutes ago, Expat68 said:

So is driving a car/motorcycle intoxicated and getting a motorbike taxi home

My friend just got banged up by a drunk scooter taxi guy. Both Ended up in the hospital for stitches.