Thai doctor offered bribe to drop lawsuit in Swiss scandal

[bob smith]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

This is good to hear. 

 

Suffer, nasty Swiss guy (ElephantMan). 👍

 

I think he’s great.

 

bob.

[SAFETY FIRST]

33 minutes ago, bob smith said:

Talk about milking the cow dry!

 

enough already, woman.

get back to work and save some lives!

 

bob.

Look at you. 👀

I didn't recognise you, getting younger looking everyday. 

 

That gym membership is working wonders, keep up the good work. 

 

 

Edited April 10 by SAFETY FIRST

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Tarndao’s father insisted that he and his daughter would never accept money from anyone and stated that they would visit the Office of The Attorney General to pursue the case to the fullest extent.

Imagine if not a farang, but a prominent Thai would have kicked her. And imagine that prominent Thai would have offered her a million or whatever compensation. Would she still insist to fight such a Thai person. I don't think so.

 

And I think I remember in the past that often criminal investigations are stopped when the rich Thai alleged offenders paid the victim ('s family) some compensation. In this case, with a farang, it is obviously called a bribe.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Considering no-one would have ever heard about this if he had just apologised at the scene, or agreed to walk away without apologising - as offered by the victim - it is amazing how big this has become. And all through his own, entitled, arrogant actions. He just can't stop digging.

 

I think we can also agree than in at least 9 out of 10 cases the victim would not have gone to the police. And for all those victims to visited the police I guess another 9 out of 10 would get a compensation of maybe 500 to 1000B. 

 

If everybody who would kick someone in Thailand would be treated like this guy, then I guess there would be thousands of cases every month. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Ohyesuare said:

She posted photos of the red mark his kick left which is harm to the body and there is non visible mental trauma from being randomly kicked by a huge swiss fatty and swore at for sitting on public land. I'm glad she is refusing the settlement and hope he gets prosecuted to the full extent of the law. 

Are you one of those Americans who wants millions of USD if you spill a hot coffee? 

[rexpotter]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you one of those Americans who wants millions of USD if you spill a hot coffee? 

Good one, bleeding heart democrats. Please not here.

[OneMoreFarang]

I think it is amazing how many farangs here want that the Swiss guy should go to jail and be thrown out of Thailand and whatever else punishment.

Is what he did really such a huge crime in your eyes?

Did you do ever anything illegal in Thailand, maybe pay a girl for a service or so? Remember, that is illegal in Thailand. You should go to jail and thrown out. Or maybe not?

 

Yes, he did something wrong, and he should be punished. But he didn't kill her. He didn't injure her so that she couldn't walk. He didn't injure her so that she is permanently disabled. He kicked her, it hurt a little, and that was about it. 

[rexpotter]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it is amazing how many farangs here want that the Swiss guy should go to jail and be thrown out of Thailand and whatever else punishment.

Is what he did really such a huge crime in your eyes?

Did you do ever anything illegal in Thailand, maybe pay a girl for a service or so? Remember, that is illegal in Thailand. You should go to jail and thrown out. Or maybe not?

 

Yes, he did something wrong, and he should be punished. But he didn't kill her. He didn't injure her so that she couldn't walk. He didn't injure her so that she is permanently disabled. He kicked her, it hurt a little, and that was about it. 

All the farangs here cry bloody murder if they started enforcing laws.

[THEN]

How come nobody questions how the Doctor and her friend got from Yamu Taste restaurant to the north/west side beach of Cape Yamu?
Did they trespass the security guard and then walked through a private estate to get to the public beach? Or did they drive 4km and then walked 1.5km along the north shore?

 

No doubt Mr. Fehrs was wrong with his very hostile reaction, but the Doctor did something special to get to this public beach.
Only to watch a full moon after dinner? It doesn't make any sense and I think she had an agenda. Or walked via Mr. Fehrs property to the public beach, which upset him before the confrontation.

[sidjameson]

2 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Every Thai is against corruption, until it benefits them, then it is not a big problem: not think too much, sabaai sabaai

You're literally posting on a thread where a Thai is resisting a bribe!!!!!!

[sammieuk1]

Try and woo her next time with a Toblerone or an all you can eat buffet bbq and she will sign anything 🤔 

[Banana7]

Looks like the Prosecutors in Phuket are on Swiss guy's payroll, trying to reduce the charges for his benefit. Phuket Police and the Prosecutor's office needs to be cleaned out.

 

The doctor is smart enough to not accept any money to settle this matter, so that the Police can't claim the matter has been settled.

 

I wonder what will be the swiss guy's next step? Maybe hire 3rd parties to physically teach her a lesson or make her disappear?

Edited April 10 by Banana7

[richard_smith237]

Everyone has their price (apparently)…

 

… she just hasn’t been offered enough yet….

 

Are the police also holding out in lieu of a better cut from a higher payout ??? (Oooh what a cynical world we live in !!!) 

[jaideedave]

46 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think it is amazing how many farangs here want that the Swiss guy should go to jail and be thrown out of Thailand and whatever else punishment.

Is what he did really such a huge crime in your eyes?

Did you do ever anything illegal in Thailand, maybe pay a girl for a service or so? Remember, that is illegal in Thailand. You should go to jail and thrown out. Or maybe not?

 

Yes, he did something wrong, and he should be punished. But he didn't kill her. He didn't injure her so that she couldn't walk. He didn't injure her so that she is permanently disabled. He kicked her, it hurt a little, and that was about it. 

Ya but when she fell out of the ugly tree she hit every branch on the way down

[richard_smith237]

23 minutes ago, sidjameson said:

You're literally posting on a thread where a Thai is resisting a bribe!!!!!!

You're literally posting on a thread where a Thai is resisting the current offer !!!

 

(there, I corrected it for you !!!) 

[connda]

Thai doctor offered bribe to drop lawsuit in Swiss scandal

 

Bunk.  She was offered an out-of-court settlement through a third-party intermediary. There is nothing illegal or corrupt about doing that at all.  In most legal jusiritictions it's the preferred practice as opposed to clogging up the court systems when the litigants can settle out of the judicial system.
Bribery is attempting to influence a person, like a government official, for personal gain and is an act of corruption.  A settlement offer is attempting to resolve a conflict monetarily and is often standard practice - even here in Thailand.  How do you think so many grievances get settled without any criminal charges being files - even when someone is seriously hurt or even killed.  Out of court settlement.  But - this is a dirty foreigner so if he does exactly what most hiso Thais would do in his position - it's a "bribe."  No, it's not.

This is a settlement offer.  If the guy's intermediary had approached a judge or prosecuting attorney and offered them money to make the charges go away - that's a bribe.

I don't feel anything for the guy who kicked her - but really - stop the hyperbole. My guess that in this defamation sensitive country, insinuating that a settlement offer is a bribe (corruption) in order to disparage the person offering the settlement could be construed to be defamation. 

 

 

Edited April 10 by connda

[kman90]

2 hours ago, eisfeld said:

More nonsense completely exagerated "reporting" from "The Thaiger". You can't bribe the person bringing the lawsuit against you unless it's the government. When you offer money to the other party it's called a settlement offer and is something completely normal and common thing to do. The other party can accept the settlement and that's that. Or they refuse and press on which is what this woman did. But there is no bribe. It would be a bribe if they paid off the police, the judge or other third parties. But this is not a bribe.

You can't "settle" a criminal case with money. From what it seems she is pressing criminal charges. The only option is if she decides "not to press charges". Also she can (and will) sue him for injuries, which is a civil case, which can be "settled".

[ChrisY1]

The Swiss mans properties.....someone wants them....

[connda]

10 minutes ago, kman90 said:

You can't "settle" a criminal case with money.

I've lived her 17 years and "Yes" you can and it's done more often than not.  A good example is in traffic accidents cases where the person who injured or even killed someone due to negligence or aggressive driving (road rage) can come up with a settlement to offer the victims family. Then no charges are filed. It happens a lot. 

Is it fair?  No.  Those who can pay get off free as bird (the rich, wealthy, and connected). Those who can't go to jail, i.e., poor commoners.  But is it common practice?  Yep - it is.  Welcome to Thailand.

Chime in again when you've lived here a decade or so and after you have a couple thousand posts.  You're applying Western standards to an Asian country.  It doesn't work like that here.

Edited April 10 by connda

[rexpotter]

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Try and woo her next time with a Toblerone or an all you can eat buffet bbq and she will sign anything 🤔 

hahaha

[Mr Meeseeks]

17 minutes ago, kman90 said:

You can't "settle" a criminal case with money. From what it seems she is pressing criminal charges. The only option is if she decides "not to press charges". Also she can (and will) sue him for injuries, which is a civil case, which can be "settled".

 

You absolutely can settle criminal cases with money in Thailand.

[Mr Meeseeks]

16 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

The Swiss mans properties.....someone wants them....

 

Yep.

 

I believe someone wants his elephant business and maybe other assets.

 

Folk here can't see the wood for the trees. 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Yep.

 

I believe someone wants his elephant business and maybe other assets.

 

Folk here can't see the wood for the trees. 

Yes, you......

[transam]

34 minutes ago, jaideedave said:

Ya but when she fell out of the ugly tree she hit every branch on the way down

And.........?  

[ukrules]

I believe this process is called a settlement.

[connda]

5 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Yep.

 

I believe someone wants his elephant business and maybe other assets.

 

Folk here can't see the wood for the trees. 

The guy's a rich foreign so he's being dragged though the mud.
A case of a Hiso Thai kicking a foreigner (or Thai) would be memory-holed by now.

[Hellfire]

Greedy Swiss guy thought 1000 thb would be enough. He underestimated the Thai pride. 3000 thb would seal the deal but it is too late now.

[Hellfire]

9 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Yep.

 

I believe someone wants his elephant business and maybe other assets.

 

Folk here can't see the wood for the trees. 

What elephant business? Did they smuggle heroin in the big elephants’ asses?

[rexpotter]

23 minutes ago, connda said:

I've lived her 17 years and "Yes" you can and it's done more often than not.  A good example is in traffic accidents cases where the person who injured or even killed someone due to negligence or aggressive driving (road rage) can come up with a settlement to offer the victims family. Then no charges are filed. It happens a lot. 

Is it fair?  No.  Those who can pay get off free as bird (the rich, wealthy, and connected). Those who can't go to jail, i.e., poor commoners.  But is it common practice?  Yep - it is.  Welcome to Thailand.

Chime in again when you've lived here a decade or so and after you have a couple thousand posts.  You're applying Western standards to an Asian country.  It doesn't work like that here.

 

 

23 minutes ago, connda said:

I've lived her 17 years and "Yes" you can and it's done more often than not.  A good example is in traffic accidents cases where the person who injured or even killed someone due to negligence or aggressive driving (road rage) can come up with a settlement to offer the victims family. Then no charges are filed. It happens a lot. 

Is it fair?  No.  Those who can pay get off free as bird (the rich, wealthy, and connected). Those who can't go to jail, i.e., poor commoners.  But is it common practice?  Yep - it is.  Welcome to Thailand.

Chime in again when you've lived here a decade or so and after you have a couple thousand posts.  You're applying Western standards to an Asian country.  It doesn't work like that here.

 

[rexpotter]

I like the way it works here. I screwed up driving here many years ago and it was totally my fault. We settled it in the cop station with money and everyone went home. No lawyers, or court dates or judges.