Belgian tourist brutally attacked in Hua Hin, friend seeks justice

[richard_smith237]

 

 

Props to this Lemmens chappy - Everyone needs a friend like this, someone prepared to step up like this man has is excellent. 

 

The German needs to be taken off the street ASAP - he is clearly a danger to society, it seems he has attacked twice recently.

 

This looks like it could be a long and expensive recovery, I hope the Belgian has good insurance, otherwise I hope German is caught and forced to pay all the medical bills - this should never cost the innocent Belgian a single baht, and then compensation and then some !!... 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Excogitator said:

Never been an expat in Cambodia, but have travelled it extensively, and I believe you. Saw some really weird stuff there.. Could be an overflow from Thailand, some probably attracted to the cheaper alcohol, and as you said, some no longer able to qualify for an extended stay in Thailand..

 

Have a mate who's just returned from a fairly expensive holiday... All inclusive, free flow booze throughout the day and evening etc.

 

One point he made.... no one was getting hammered, overdoing it and and acting like a t!t....       

 

Cost is a great filter of undesirables - its been said that Singapore has a better 'quality' of expat than Thailand, and here it is (in this thread) being said that Thailand has a better quality of expat than places such as Cambodia which speaks volumes... 

 

 

 

[NativeBob]

53 minutes ago, Dont confuse me said:

There must be something that provoked this I hope he pulls through and is able to assist in the attack

According to WW history Germans always attack w/o reason and unprovoked.

[das ist eine kleine sarcasmus]

[NaaKap]

6 hours ago, Vibora99 said:

ไม่น่าแปลกใจเลยที่คนขี้เมาเหล่านี้ไม่มีการศึกษา...

No wonder with these drunks without any education...

💯% Correct imho

[Liverpool Lou]

10 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

Who did the foreigner piss off?

The man who was arrested probably.

[Liverpool Lou]

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

how can you prove it was unprovoked?

you don't know the past history

By asking the assailant.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

Have they caught the perpetrator 

 

If they know he is a martial arts expert they must know who he is?

Yes, it's in the OP.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

So many people comment on this without reading or understanding the link. I have no idea why that might be.

Because they are AN members, it is a requirement.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, john donson said:

cctv?

"The incident, captured on CCTV".

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

Why would you not want to know his name?

Because his name is irrelevant.

[Mike Lister]

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because his name is irrelevant.

Peculiar name, must be a football player.

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because his name is irrelevant.

 

Names of assailants, except for minors, are routine in all journalism. Do you think the person who attacked is a 13 year old.

[Keeps]

12 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

Who did the foreigner piss off? That takes some effort.

 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The man who was arrested probably.

If it was an unprovoked attack then probably not. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

how can you prove it was unprovoked?

you don't know the past history

I don't know about proving it, but all the signs seem to indicate that. 

 

As the article says, witnesses and officials (who probably know more about it that we do) both describe it as unprovoked, the full article says the German had also attacked other people and from the following it sounds as if the attacker was perhaps suffering some kind of "episode." 

 

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The German assailant, described by witnesses as confused and aggressive, reportedly continued to roam the area for hours after attacking Jan before eventually being apprehended by police.

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

3 hours ago, Dont confuse me said:

There must be something that provoked this I hope he pulls through and is able to assist in the attack.

Why must there be? By all accounts, the attacker was wandering around for hours in a confused and aggressive state, and had also attacked other people.

 

We can't know for sure yet, but it does rather sound as if he may have been just attacking people at random.

[rattlesnake]

7 hours ago, Cabradelmar said:

There are more than a few mentally unstable people roaming the streets. Thai and foreigners. Don't know how events unfolded here, but you can never be too careful around people you don't know. Sorry to say.

 

More and more people are going crazy these days. What happened, I wonder?

[xtrnuno41]

This is already old "news". 

It has finally got into the Thai news.

On 4/14/2024 at 12:19 PM, xtrnuno41 said:

Well, I dont know what is happening in Thailand, but just red, a Belgian fresh retiree was bashed by a German in Hua Hin !

He is in hospital now and had 13 hour surgery. His skull was broken on 10 places ! In coma now for the next 8 months.

However the news is only on a Belgian news site, cant find in any Thai news. 

The same German already did a Britain too, but he was lucky.

Give you Belgian site, you can always translate https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2024/04/11/zinloos-geweld-thailand/

And VRT is an official site.

What would be the conclusion of all? Thailand attracts violent people or when you are living in Thailand, you get violent?

Maybe nr 1? As Thailand once also let in Joran vd Sloot, alleged Nathalie Holloway killer.

And what he did there? Trading in girls for prostitution. 

It is weird it is not (yet?) in Thai news.

Weird the German didnt get kicked out (action before with Britain), not even arrested now(not in article)!

How can you rhyme this ? I cant.

[geisha]

11 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

I read the HH report and stand by my assessment...

Then you obviously have a problem ! The Hua Hin reports the German being “ confused and aggressive “ and wandering around until the police apprehended him. He has also attacked an Englishman . There were witnesses!! Your anger at this  is not normal.. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

12 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

I read the HH report and stand by my assessment...

If you read that whole Hua Hin Today article and still think the unfortunate victim deserves to be deported then it would appear you have a problem with English language comprehension.

[Scouse123]

6 hours ago, JimTripper said:

Sihanoukville was the worst I saw in Cambodia. They call them 'deathpats'. People who have washed up in the last place that accepts them. Maybe they have been pushed along by now with the Chinese development.

 

Saw one room with bloody swabs all over on the pillow and bed when looking to rent a room.

 

They seem to be preyed upon by other expats and maybe locals as well. They just go down hill with booze and drugs and end up in a tiny cheap room, usually close to a grungy entertainment area like Victory Hill, or one of those places near the water where there is nothing. Not the same as Pattaya and similar, it's much worse.

 

Strange things blowing in on the wind there, strange smells, especially along deserted dirt roads. Could feel something in the breeze. Felt like...lack of hope, for lack of a better word.

 

Siem Reap and PP was Ok for me if you stay in a decent place.

 

 

The Chinese ruined Sihanoukville and left it unhabitable and suffering even more lawlessness than before.

 

There are partially constructed buildings that have been left and will never be completed once the authorities clamped down on Casino gambling, which in turn was replaced by call centres, slave labour and racketeering.

 

The original Cambodians were pushed out and relocated years ago when it became unaffordable for them. Anything that Sihanoukville had to offer, which wasn't a great deal, has now gone.

 

Quite a large number of failed Thailand expats now trawl the streets of Phnom Penn and Siem Reap as the visa arrangements are much easier and no need for cash in the bank.

[cardinalblue]

15 hours ago, Olmate said:

That mindset is why you will never get a buyer for your swamp... lol !! 

I would like to see your Miami property if you would send me a RT ticket and a 3-day allowance 

[Jan de Uitvreter]

German martial-art shepherd seems to be a filty coward.
Hang him high.

[Middle Aged Grouch]

Has that german scumbag been apprehended and jailed in the ladyboy unit of the prison for 30 years ?

[PremiumLane]

14 hours ago, PJ71 said:

That old chestnut.

 

has anyone put the other AseanNow chestnut yet, "Another quality tourist"? 

 

They should do an official AseanNow bingo card

[orchis]

5 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

There must be something that provoked this I hope he pulls through and is able to assist in the attack.

More BS. Many people get attacked without provocation, latest example Bondi shopping centre.

[billd766]

10 hours ago, John Drake said:

 

Because the names of assailants are part of the basic news story. Know the name of the doctor kicker, don't we? The cop who ran over the woman eye specialist? The Swiss who beat up a Thai woman in a grocery store. It's basic journalism. Not to mention that knowing who he is could bring additional witnesses or people who may have had a run in with him in the past.  Why would you not want to know his name?

Because I, like many other posters, live nowhere near Hua Hin and are unlikely to ever visit there.

 

It seems that the police know who he is, have arrested him and he is in custody. The chances of anybody here actually meeting him are around 99% of never.

 

Knowing his name makes no difference at all. He probably did not even know the name of the Belgian guy that he attacked from what I can glean from the reports that I have read.

[BTB1977]

If more people used marijuana these attacks wouldn't happen.  Get 6 guys together smoking pot. The worst that can happen is they start a jam session.  

[EdrigoSalvadore]

Similar thing happened to me in Pattaya by a Canadian guy. I sat down on the side of a pool and he came up to me and kicked me in the back of my head. He had to pay 20k fine, but my brain never felt the same.

[Captor]

18 hours ago, crazykopite said:

60 odd years of age and attacked from behind what a cowardly way to attack a person of that age . Here is hoping the victim will survive and recover to full health but a 13 hour brain operation is not looking good . I hope they have apprehended the coward who did this attacks and send him to the Bangkok Hilton for a long stay !

Are they able to do diffucult surgery like this in Hua Hin? What hospital would that be?

[JimTripper]

Looks like all those party huts and bungalows down by Serendipity Beach are gone. The Happy Pizza shack places likely gone as well.

 

9 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

The Chinese ruined Sihanoukville and left it unhabitable and suffering even more lawlessness than before.

 

There are partially constructed buildings that have been left and will never be completed once the authorities clamped down on Casino gambling, which in turn was replaced by call centres, slave labour and racketeering.

 

The original Cambodians were pushed out and relocated years ago when it became unaffordable for them. Anything that Sihanoukville had to offer, which wasn't a great deal, has now gone.

 

Quite a large number of failed Thailand expats now trawl the streets of Phnom Penn and Siem Reap as the visa arrangements are much easier and no need for cash in the bank.