Immigration - totally useless

[mokwit]

1 minute ago, KannikaP said:

It can be confusing when filling in Thai Immigration papers, when for example, the boxes to fill in dates have the day at the end of one line and then month and year at the start of the next. WHY they cannot have dates to be put as the conventional DD/MM/YYYY I cannot understand.

I find the forms so confusing in terms of spacing and order  I keep a filled in one as a template and copy that for each new application. Reduces the times having to start again with a new form.

[YorkshireTyke]

15 hours ago, petedk said:

Someone informed me today from immigration at Hua Hin that the online 90 day report has been suspended or taken down. I am trying to find out if it is true

 

It's moving to the higher floor (2/3? )that was mainly empty alongside a new Thai passport office.

Edited November 7 by YorkshireTyke

[rwill]

One time when my online application was rejected I went into the office to do it.  I asked them why it was rejected and they said, "We like to see you."

[hkt83100]

1 hour ago, Andycoops said:

Can't beat walking into the office and actually handing over your passport.

That's fine, normally it takes me about one minute. The only problem is wasting hours on the road going on a roundtrip of about 200kms for this st**id procedure.

[hkt83100]

41 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

WHY they cannot have dates to be put as the conventional DD/MM/YYYY I cannot understand.

Maybe because some people are used to MM/DD/YYYY format for some unknown reason?

[GypsyT]

Conversesation?

"You'll find 99% of issues are due to foreigners Incompetence, not understanding the procedures here in Thailand.

It's quite easy to post negative threads on AN, you'll get lots of likes but it won't make your life easier.

I find dealing with government departments in Thailand quite easy and straight forward once you understand how their systems work.

Maybe Thailand is not for you. "

 

If that's you "conversation style" no wonder you defend Immi 'cause you got no place to go.... you're stuck here!

 

Edited November 7 by GypsyT

[easydoor]

I do my 90d reports, since the beginning of online repoting, always onine.

Never ever had a problem with it. It never has been rejected.

It is very easy complaining it is not working well but most it is because the user doesn't do it correct.

For the items as province, district-tambon.....: Use the automatic seach windows.

[OJAS]

19 hours ago, Foxx said:

They put red stars next to some input field, I'm guessing to indicate they are mandatory.  However, forename is not flagged as such, even though it is required.  There are other fields, too, I believe.

 

So did you just complete the red-starred fields? When I did so for my latest online report a couple of weeks ago, this, too, was initially rejected on the grounds of "Incomplete information provided". So I completed all remaining fields and resubmitted, with approval by my office (Rayong) being forthcoming the next day.

 

I strongly suspect that the sole piece of additional info which is considered so absolutely desperately essentially vital by IMM as a prerequisite to their approval of online 90-day reports is your phone number. For some mysterious reason this is an optional field in the online system, yet mandatory on a paper TM47! However, I was taking no chances, so gave 'em the full Monty instead. 

 

[DrJack54]

30 minutes ago, easydoor said:

It is very easy complaining it is not working well but most it is because the user doesn't do it correct.

I can assure you that in many cases it's not due to incorrect submission of the online report. 

BTW: which immigration office? 

 

[Digitalbanana]

14 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

14 hours ago, Digitalbanana said:

The system works if you use it correctly.

It does not. Far from it.

 

There are numerous posts on AseanNow regarding rejection of online report.

Including the list of "conditions" you posted. 

I have 4 rejections from online (CW) despite successful online reporting in the past and as result have done in person.

It's fine till online falls out of love with you.

Previously you have castigated me for selectively quoting you on a reply yet you have done the same to me here. You have not addressed the points I made in my post. Was anything incorrect in my points 1,2 and 3 ? If so let me know. My experience is they have worked and I have been doing 90 day reports since 2008 including online since the service started. The only time my online application did not work in those years was when they closed the online web site service for a period to update the web site or when I did not follow those 3 points.

Edited November 7 by Digitalbanana

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, hkt83100 said:

Maybe because some people are used to MM/DD/YYYY format for some unknown reason?

Still no reason to put

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Date..............................

Month.......................Year..................................

 

Edited November 7 by KannikaP

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said:

Previously you have castigated me for selectively quoting you on a reply yet you have done the same to me here. You have not addressed the points I made in my post. Was anything incorrect in my points 1,2 and 3 

Points 1,2,3 irrelevant.

Your post started with sentence ....

" The system works if you use it correctly." 

 

That is incorrect.

There are numerous posts in this forum from folk (including Me) that have done what you outlined in your post and have had online report rejected.

 

 

[Searat7]

Is the mail in method of 90 day reporting acceptable if there has been international travel in the past 90 days ? I do realize that online method would not work. 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Searat7 said:

Is the mail in method of 90 day reporting acceptable if there has been international travel in the past 90 days ?

Has worked for me.

I use mail option as I travel abroad often. 

[grain]

3 hours ago, Andycoops said:

Can't beat walking into the office and actually handing over your passport.

 

I am usually in and out in under 10 minutes and it allows me to do some retail therapy at Robinson's, HomePro, Global etc afterwards every 3 months.

Exactly same for us, we live 50km out of Korat city, but for us it's no big deal, every 3 months I have to drive into the immigration to do the 90-day report, which take 5 minutes, then we're off to Lotus's, Makro, and the other big stores.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, GypsyT said:

If that's you "conversation style" no wonder you defend Immi 'cause you got no place to go.... you're stuck here!

I'm stuck in heaven. ❤️

Wouldn't want to be anywhere else. 

 

[harryviking]

21 hours ago, Foxx said:

I've just had my online 90 day report rejected.  The email said "Incomplete information provided".  No indication what information was incomplete.  And every single field was completed exactly the same as my previous umpteen applications.  (Well, apart from my last one, when I had to submit in person at the ninth circle of hell, Chaeng Wattana because their pisspoor computer systems don't talk to each other.)

I have rarely encountered an operation which is so utterly unprofessional and generally incompetent.

 

/End of rant

Imagine if they start with the ETA system and that breaks down! Oh my.....total chaos! Millions bought tickets and cannot get "permission" to go to Thailand???😆

[dddave]

4 hours ago, Andycoops said:

Can't beat walking into the office and actually handing over your passport.

 

I am usually in and out in under 10 minutes and it allows me to do some retail therapy at Robinson's, HomePro, Global etc afterwards every 3 months.

Not 10 minutes at Jomtien but they do have a huge volume.  Did my 90 day there this past Monday, arriving at 10:30am with all forms and copies prepared. Sign on the counter said 1 hour wait. Turned out to be 40 minutes.    

Watched as one man yelled at the counter girl for 5 minutes, really aggressively.  She gave it right back.  He finally stormed out waving his arms in the air, expressing his outrage at everything Thai.  I wouldn't want their job.

[jesimps]

16 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You'll find 99% of issues are due to foreigners Incompetence, not understanding the procedures here in Thailand. 

 

It's quite easy to post negative threads on AN, you'll get lots of likes but it won't make your life easier. 

 

I find dealing with government departments in Thailand quite easy and straight forward once you understand how their systems work. 

 

Maybe Thailand is not for you. 

 

Ah yes, the mandatory "If you don't don't like it here go back to your own country" post of the day.

[mokwit]

7 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Ah yes, the mandatory "If you don't don't like it here go back to your own country" post of the day.

combined with being Mr "well, I must say, i have never had that problem"

[SAFETY FIRST]

18 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Ah yes, the mandatory "If you don't don't like it here go back to your own country" post of the day.

Ah, yes and the mandatory off topic reply from one of the moaning keyboard warriors.

 

BTW, I didn't see you reacting to the nasty, hateful post towards Thai immigration.

 

You seem fine with that. 

[G_Money]

My agent takes care of the minor details.

 

Makes a simple life even simpler.

[oldestswinger]

2 hours ago, easydoor said:

I do my 90d reports, since the beginning of online repoting, always onine.

Never ever had a problem with it. It never has been rejected.

It is very easy complaining it is not working well but most it is because the user doesn't do it correct.

For the items as province, district-tambon.....: Use the automatic seach windows.

I'm sure that you are right, but I think that the main criticism here is that the computer system should indicate in what way the form has been completed incorrectly.

[Sydebolle]

Yet another nuisance to disguise the inferiority complex of the semi-divines. Given the fact, that a large percentage of Thais do NOT live at the place shown in their house register, the racist element becomes apparent. 

Another joke is the TM30; most landlords renting out premises to alien and dirty farang could not be asred to follow TM30 and, subsequently, the tenant gets the blame. 

The bureaucracy here is second to none, marred with incompetence, arrogance and corruption; normally government officials are here to serve the public - in Thailand it works, like many other things, the other way round. 

[worrab]

19 hours ago, petedk said:

Someone informed me today from immigration at Hua Hin that the online 90 day report has been suspended or taken down. I am trying to find out if it is true

Having driven by Hua Hin Immigration again this morning, I suspect it may well be shut due to flooding. This has been the case for the last couple of days. Best off going to Bluport for 90 day reports.

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, mokwit said:

I find the forms so confusing in terms of spacing and order  I keep a filled in one as a template and copy that for each new application. Reduces the times having to start again with a new form.

That's very creditable, but you should not have to do that. KannikaP is right about the forms, besides this 90 day reporting nonsense treating us like criminals on parole is way out of order what other countries treat retiree's like  this?

[petermik]

16 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

That's very creditable, but you should not have to do that. KannikaP is right about the forms, besides this 90 day reporting nonsense treating us like criminals on parole is way out of order what other countries treat retiree's like  this?

They don`t really want us here....only the money we spend are they interested in

[billd766]

5 hours ago, hkt83100 said:

That's fine, normally it takes me about one minute. The only problem is wasting hours on the road going on a roundtrip of about 200kms for this st**id procedure.

My round trip is about 140km and I usually combine it with a bulk shop on the same day. I also find the Immigration staff at the Kamphaeng Phet Immigration are farang friendly and very helpful.

Edited November 7 by billd766

[Thingamabob]

If online is difficult for you either go in person or apply by mail.

[KannikaP]

On 11/6/2024 at 1:55 PM, norbra said:

You must remember TIT the middle name has no asterisk because the majority of Thais do not have a middle name.

I have Thai friends that entered on foreign passports they must provide TM47's too.

 However, forename is not flagged as such, even though it is required