I'm sick to death of seeing it.

 

the lights are on red, families, children are about to cross the road as the green man appears, then all of a sudden some ignoramus steams through on his motorbike or pickup truck.

 

Thais have got to be among the most inconsiderate people in the world when it comes to driving.

 

regards,

bob.

3 minutes ago, Robert_Smith said:

I'm sick to death of seeing it.

 

the lights are on red, families, children are about to cross the road as the green man appears, then all of a sudden some ignoramus steams through on his motorbike or pickup truck.

 

Thais have got to be among the most inconsiderate people in the world when it comes to driving.

 

regards,

bob.

Where I live it is mostly the motorbikes that go through on a red light. The vast majority of cars do tend to stop.

When something is actually done, meaning harsh punishment like they do in America at such crossings and school crossings, and enough money is taken from them, they might slow down the next time, especially if signs are put up 100 meters from the crossing posting the penalties and cameras are installed if they aren't already there.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

When something is actually done, meaning harsh punishment like they do in America at such crossings and school crossings, and enough money is taken from them, they might slow down the next time, especially if signs are put up 100 meters from the crossing posting the penalties and cameras are installed if they aren't already there.

 

What surprises me is that the BIB don't jump all over that revenue stream.  They could make a mint ticketing traffic scofflaws.

 

It's an absolute disgrace.

 

Children cross these roads, and are expected to do so in safety when the green man shines bright.

 

But then some ignorant <deleted> blazes through, probably on his phone, whilst the little child is in a state of bewilderment.

 

this country has far too many flaws that need to be addressed!

 

regards,

bob.

 

Many zebras don't have lights, I don't stop unless a bozo has walked straight out, others might not stop.

 

With traffic lights i stop until everyone finishes walking across.

 

Law enforcement is optional here by the police so until that stops i can't see any change

Maybe there aren't any Zebras crossing the roads?

The worst is the left turn. Even with a red light, apparently you can turn left.

 

43 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

When something is actually done, meaning harsh punishment like they do in America at such crossings and school crossings, and enough money is taken from them, they might slow down the next time, especially if signs are put up 100 meters from the crossing posting the penalties and cameras are installed if they aren't already there.

 

... you mentioned 'when harsh punishments' and I agree.

 

Try most / all states in Australia, don't stop at a standard zebra crossing (lights or no light)s and there's serious punishment. Second offence and you're bankrupt, third offense mandatory 12 months jail and license cancelled for life.

 

Don't stop eta school zebra crossing (manned or unmanned) and all the above punishments are even much more severe and in many states include without payment manning school crossings 3 or 4 times every day and in some states a big sign on your back 'I didn't stop, I have to do this community service for 5 years!'.

 

And like in any country the neighbors will know quickly about any such offense and they are punished (ignored) by the local community.

 

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

... you mentioned 'when harsh punishments' and I agree.

 

Try most / all states in Australia, don't stop at a standard zebra crossing (lights or no light)s and there's serious punishment. Second offence and you're bankrupt, third offense mandatory 12 months jail and license cancelled for life.

 

Don't stop eta school zebra crossing (manned or unmanned) and all the above punishments are even much more severe and in many states include without payment manning school crossings 3 or 4 times every day and in some states a big sign on your back 'I didn't stop, I have to do this community service for 5 years!'.

 

And like in any country the neighbors will know quickly about any such offense and they are punished (ignored) by the local community.

 

Also if you are caught using your cellphone while going through a school area you're toast.

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

Where I live it is mostly the motorbikes that go through on a red light. The vast majority of cars do tend to stop.

not true

40 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Many zebras don't have lights, I don't stop unless a bozo has walked straight out, others might not stop.

 

With traffic lights i stop until everyone finishes walking across.

 

Law enforcement is optional here by the police so until that stops i can't see any change

Guess what for all comparing Thailand to their own Western countries.  This isn't your own Western country.  There is no real enforcement here and for those who get hit, injured, or killed, there is little in the way of justice.  So - for those who live here.  If you understand how dangerous they are you should be all eyes when using one. For those who cross with the expectation that vehicles will stop - well - that's suicidal.

39 minutes ago, connda said:

Guess what for all comparing Thailand to their own Western countries.  This isn't your own Western country.  There is no real enforcement here and for those who get hit, injured, or killed, there is little in the way of justice.  So - for those who live here.  If you understand how dangerous they are you should be all eyes when using one. For those who cross with the expectation that vehicles will stop - well - that's suicidal.

I'd never cross at a zebra crossing, the worse place

 

Another problem is that people park their cars right up to the edge of the crossing so when you are approaching you can't see if anyone is about to cross. By the time you can see anyone crossing it's too late to stop.

I always film the pr**ks. Doesn’t make much difference though!

Why don't pedestrians.look where they are going..wondering around with their head up their backsides...

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

The worst is the left turn. Even with a red light, apparently you can turn left.

 

Some you can.and you can also go straight on in the left hand lane if the road marking is a blocked line

No consequences.   Just a dead piece of meat in the crosswalk.  Cops take a report that it was an "accident ". 

In western countries there would be possible criminal charges, big lawsuit payouts, loss of license and insurance. 

Here, just drive away.

3 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

I'm sick to death of seeing it.

 

the lights are on red, families, children are about to cross the road as the green man appears, then all of a sudden some ignoramus steams through on his motorbike or pickup truck.

 

Thais have got to be among the most inconsiderate people in the world when it comes to driving.

 

regards,

bob.

Communist

53 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Why don't pedestrians.look where they are going..wondering around with their head up their backsides...

No their heads are looking down at the phones in their hands and earphones blocking out all traffic noise.

Parking in handicap slots $250 fine in Canada if you don't have a tag. MACRO has them barricaded off and will move the barrier if you show them your tag same in Central Plaza Udon Thani. A step forward but need many more.

5 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

I'm sick to death of seeing it.

 

Then leave and stop whining about every aspect of life. It's boring now.

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'd never cross at a zebra crossing, the worse place

 

Exactly, because it provides a false sense of security. It's better if you cross at a place that you DON'T expect to be safe - as that encourages you to be more careful.

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Also if you are caught using your cellphone while going through a school area you're toast.

You are not allowed to use the phone at all  

• Illegal mobile phone use while driving includes: 1. holding it in your hand 2. resting on any part of your body (eg. your lap or shoulder) If you hold your phone or have it on your body, you will be fined even if you’re not operating the phone, or it’s turned off.
• OZ Rules
• If you break any of the mobile phone laws outlined above, you’ll receive a minimum of 3 demerit points and a $390 fine, no matter what state or territory you’re in. However, penalties differ by state and territory, and in states such as QLD you could be fined as much as $1,161, while in NSW you can lose 5 demerit points instantly.

6 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

I'm sick to death of seeing it.

 

the lights are on red, families, children are about to cross the road as the green man appears, then all of a sudden some ignoramus steams through on his motorbike or pickup truck.

 

Thais have got to be among the most inconsiderate people in the world when it comes to driving.

 

regards,

bob.

 

 

I think you've done that one before..... 

 

 

But... In reality you might be right... for some reason when people get in a car here an 'F-You' switch gets turned on and a usually polite and non-confrontational people become self-centred and selfish... 

 

Still, I see improvements in some areas... but the simple issue is that crossing a road anywhere 'should' require full caution, but in Thailand that 100% caution is essential because for the most part road users are completely indifferent to the safety of pedestrians. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, still kicking said:

• Illegal mobile phone use while driving includes: 1. holding it in your hand 2. resting on any part of your body (eg. your lap or shoulder) If you hold your phone or have it on your body, you will be fined even if you’re not operating the phone, or it’s turned off.
• OZ Rules
•  

 

My Brother in Law (UK) leaves it in his bag on silent - I think they have a 'driving mode' that limits notifications and calls when it detects you are driving (obviously as a passenger you could over-ride this).

 

I just have my phone on silent all the time...    and when driving, the car play links nicely for the maps, but I still don't want to bother with 'notifications' that come up on the Dash-display which IMO is just as bad as reading a phone !!!....    

 

I don't like talking (hands free) on the phone while driving either, I think that detracts from concentration.... Wife seems to mostly drive while on the phone and I hate it, I can see how much it distracts her.... 

They do it because they can - no one will do anything to them for running red lights or zipping through crossings (unless they hit someone in the process). Ask yourself this, 'have you ever seen the Thai police chase a speeding vehicle?' Of course it's not right that they run reds and pedx, but that's besides the point. Thailand has lots of very solid laws, but they're ignored - and that's because they're not enforced.

5 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

The worst is the left turn. Even with a red light, apparently you can turn left.

 

I believe this is allowed only if there is a special sign there, and it is safe to do so.

 

Unfortunately, this seems to give Thai people the idea that this means vehicles turning left on a red light have priority over vehicles who are on a green.

 

But, that's Thailand for you.  🤷‍♂️

5 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I believe this is allowed only if there is a special sign there, and it is safe to do so.

 

Yes, it's the blue sign in Thai language.