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Why do they never stop at Zebra Crossings?

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Because they are not the RIGHT TYPE of crossings, and poorly designed....

 

If the crossings were designed properly, then vehicles would STOP when spikes are raised.

 

THIS is the way it should be done...!!!

 

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    ... you mentioned 'when harsh punishments' and I agree.   Try most / all states in Australia, don't stop at a standard zebra crossing (lights or no light)s and there's serious punishment. Se

  • Guess what for all comparing Thailand to their own Western countries.  This isn't your own Western country.  There is no real enforcement here and for those who get hit, injured, or killed, there is l

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    When something is actually done, meaning harsh punishment like they do in America at such crossings and school crossings, and enough money is taken from them, they might slow down the next time, espec

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32 minutes ago, still kicking said:

You are not allowed to use the phone at all  

Oh yes you can! …but only as a navigational aide if the phone is mounted. 
 

 

4 minutes ago, Nemises said:

Oh yes you can! …but only as a navigational aide if the phone is mounted. 
 

 

If it is mounted, it is not handheld 

  • Illegal mobile phone use while driving includes: 1. holding it in your hand 2. resting on any part of your body (eg. your lap or shoulder) If you hold your phone or have it on your body, you will be fined even if you’re not operating the phone, or it’s turned off.

Because nobody knows what Zebra Crossings are for, in a land where the heavier vehicle has priority....

I have noticed over the years that more vehicles and bikes are stopping at zebra crossings but i'm still on a 360 degree scan as there is always one who will ignore the other waiting vehicles.

1 hour ago, still kicking said:

If it is mounted, it is not handheld

Correct, and it’s still a phone and you are allowed to use it - which is contrary to your statement of “you are not allowed to use a phone at all”. 

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Also if you are caught using your cellphone while going through a school area you're toast.

Sure, In most Australian states (maybe all) using a cellphone at any time when you are behind the wheel is totally forbidden no matter what the circumstances, and very severe punishments applied. And the above strongly endorsed by the public.

 

And as mentioned using a cellphone while going through a school area you're toast the punishment is very severe, probably including license cancelled for life.  And the above strongly endorsed by the public.

 

5 hours ago, baansgr said:

Why don't pedestrians.look where they are going..wondering around with their head up their backsides...

Or down on their phones

 

37 minutes ago, Nemises said:

Correct, and it’s still a phone and you are allowed to use it - which is contrary to your statement of “you are not allowed to use a phone at all”. 

And aren't the displays in most modern cars more distracting than a mounted phone, when you can check your tyre pressures while coming up to a Zebra crossing?

16 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

And aren't the displays in most modern cars more distracting than a mounted phone, when you can check your tyre pressures while coming up to a Zebra crossing?


Can play YouTube videos on the go on some cars now ……. madness !

9 hours ago, still kicking said:

You are not allowed to use the phone at all  

Yes but they really step up enforcement in school zones, with police sitting there many times watching.

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Because they are not the RIGHT TYPE of crossings, and poorly designed....

 

If the crossings were designed properly, then vehicles would STOP when spikes are raised.

 

THIS is the way it should be done...!!!

 

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Or this.......image.jpeg.b0935cfb3624ea2930c1e897c87e8e80.jpeg

17 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

I'm sick to death of seeing it.

 

the lights are on red, families, children are about to cross the road as the green man appears, then all of a sudden some ignoramus steams through on his motorbike or pickup truck.

 

Thais have got to be among the most inconsiderate people in the world when it comes to driving.

 

regards,

bob.

Not really.

Maybe you don't know that almost all Myanmar people working in Thailand got only a motorbike but not a car (exceptions possible).

Also those people never learned the traffic rules. (as some older Thais).

Also there are only recently some advisers in schools giving instructions. Some wealthy Kindergartens where English is being taught rudimentary try their best too.

At the end it's a matter of law enforcement. Police at zebra crossings for a while would be helpful (so kangaroo hopple by pedestrians could stop)🤗

 

17 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

When something is actually done, meaning harsh punishment like they do in America at such crossings and school crossings, and enough money is taken from them, they might slow down the next time, especially if signs are put up 100 meters from the crossing posting the penalties and cameras are installed if they aren't already there.

Looking out of my window, I see a flock pigs going over! 🤣

17 hours ago, Robert_Smith said:

It's an absolute disgrace.

 

Children cross these roads, and are expected to do so in safety when the green man shines bright.

 

But then some ignorant <deleted> blazes through, probably on his phone, whilst the little child is in a state of bewilderment.

 

this country has far too many flaws that need to be addressed!

 

regards,

bob.

 

Much as I may agree with your sentiment, why get all worked up about something you have no control over? Anyone who has been here for a week or more should know Thai roads are death traps. Even the sidewalks are not safe from morons who ride their motorbikes on them.

Traffic law enforcement here isn't enforced.  Rarely do I see police issuing tickets except during road-side checks which can prove to be a cash cow for them.

18 hours ago, impulse said:

What surprises me is that the BIB don't jump all over that revenue stream.  They could make a mint ticketing traffic scofflaws.

Because they don't stop! (Thai police only do checkpoints.)

I remember someone telling me that if you run over a doctor, other doctors will refuse you treatment later. 

Probably an old wives tale. 

18 hours ago, impulse said:

 

What surprises me is that the BIB don't jump all over that revenue stream.  They could make a mint ticketing traffic scofflaws.

 

Sure but the reality is that cops on motorcycles are also offenders re zebra crossings.

 

Recall the young cop who killed a respected doctor on a zebra crossing outside Chula. hospital 18 months ago. 

18 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

When something is actually done, meaning harsh punishment like they do in America at such crossings and school crossings, and enough money is taken from them, they might slow down the next time, especially if signs are put up 100 meters from the crossing posting the penalties and cameras are installed if they aren't already there.

 

Several times in uni classes international exchange students have raised this subject.

 

Two common responses from the Thai students:

 

- There's no law to say drivers have to stop.

 

- Cannot be law because it would disrupt the traffic flow too much. 

Cuz that would take all the fun out of it! You haven't lived unti you have walked like a yogi across 4 lanes of moving traffic striding as sesately as a monk off to his morning rounds. 

18 hours ago, impulse said:

 

What surprises me is that the BIB don't jump all over that revenue stream.  They could make a mint ticketing traffic scofflaws.

 

…and seize the vehicle. Vehicles would be sold at auctions to finance a fund for victims of rogue drivers and riders.

Because 99% of Thai drivers wouldn't recognise a Zebra if it hoofed them in the mouth.

18 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

The worst is the left turn. Even with a red light, apparently you can turn left.

 

Not always. It is clearly signposted f you can’t 

they are too arrogant and do not like to stop anywhere, you see it every day on any road, they know the police will not do anything and they are too lazy to change gears more than they have too. Red lights mean nothing to many thai road users as they do as they please, many have no idea of the road rules and simply ignore tham if they do, they think they are number one and everyobe else has to let them do what they want but it all boils down to their arrogance/self importance. Until such time as thai police actually do what they are paid for it will continue with the police themselves being big offenders, the road laws in Thailand are a joke at best as hardly anyone obeys them nor are they enforced, again because the police are too lazy to do it.

Here’s my take.. and it’s not unique to Thailand, nor a condemnation of it either.

 

In no specific order .. 1) I think there’s a general lack of “safety culture” here .. safety is of course talked about - you see all kinds of signs/posters extolling safety.. but in practice, safety and safety compliance just isn’t an ingrained part of the daily life here .

 

2) Overall lack of firm, fair and CONSISTENT enforcement of existing laws.. On the books, Thailand has essentially the same motor vehicle laws as many “western” countries — but the enforcement of these laws is spotty or sporadic at best and out right ignored at worst… combined with a penalty system that is both woefully lacking combined with poorly integrated into the later motor vehicle, driver and public safety systems.

 

I’ve long advocated for seizure and forfeiture to the state, of assets used in crimes resulting in injury or death OR repeated offenders.. Once you start taking away people’s “stuff” you’ll see change .. keep running zebras and narrowly missing pedestrians - loose the bike or car (financed or not) … run an illegal club where drugs are found or fire escapes blocked and people are hurt - loose the building and land.  Harsh? yes.. but in the end, the “state” has the onus to ensure compliance with safety laws. 

Why do they never stop at Zebra Crossings?

 

I quote, talking to a few Thais about this: "No zebras in Thailand..."

 

 

What do you expect in a country, where every immigration official, bank clerk, etc., etc., makes up their own rules and/or ignores existing laws and regulations?

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