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Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo

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1 minute ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Europe is lame.

Is that it, now don't tell me you are from the USA..........🤣

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Many comments are from folks who the other day were berating him for not making up his mind, when he said something like he would decide in 2 weeks, now he has decided once again they are doing the same?:whistling:

 

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Right, that's why trump said Obama would need congressional approval before a strike on Iran.

So, it is your position that Trump is an expert on the Constitution? 

 

I still think it's hilarious that you do not capitalize Trump....

1 minute ago, BLMFem said:

 

I have infinitely more faith in these two than a president who tried to instigate a coup and suspend democracy. Hopefully this attack doesn't lead to a declaration of war because that would give Trump vastly more power, and that's the last thing the US and the world needs.

 

The Atlantic: American Democracy Might Not Survive a War With Iran

https://archive.ph/tllmW#selection-695.185-695.407

 

"Trump declared a state of national emergency in response to a nonexistent “invasion” by Venezuelan gangs. Imagine what he will do when the United States is actually at war with a real country, one that many Americans fear."

 

 

You get a little chubby when you see that head gear? 

41 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:


No sh-T.

 

Caused by what?  

It could be by attacks on shipping in the straits of Hormuz. It wouldn't take much to bottle of shipping there. 

The Houthis could once again launch attacks on Saudi oil facilities.

Just now, ThreeCardMonte said:


The USA is the main reason you’re not speaking German today.

 

The Poms should never forget that fact.

Ooooh, that ol' chestnut that you had nothing to do with.........😂

 

And the USA should not forget it was formed by mainly mass immigration from Europe, including Germans.........:clap2:................😆

11 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Right, that's why trump said Obama would need congressional approval before a strike on Iran.

Biden didn't get congressional approval before striking Yemen, so what's your point? Trump has not declared war either so it was not needed.

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

No. This was sorted out already.

Already? Like in the past week?

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Already? Like in the past week?

 

Months ago.

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47 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

He hasn't declared war. Declaration of war needs congressional approval. As it is the US is not at war with Iran so no congressional authorization needed.

Pleeeeeeeeeeze!

Bombing a country is NOT considered an act of war?

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, it is your position that Trump is an expert on the Constitution? 

 

I still think it's hilarious that you do not capitalize Trump....

Still the same browser. Trump has other meanings, hence no automatic capitalisation.

 

So he can say what he wants because he doesn't know what he's talking about. I'll agree with the latter part.

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Don’t worry about Europe.  Europe is lazy and avoids hard work on the world stage.

like The American boots on the ground in Viet Mike. History showed you were ill prepared and knew how to fill body bags. How long before you threw the towel in and abandoned the Vietnam people. We in the UK went 7 thousand miles to kick out the Argentine invaders in the Falklands within weeks, we defeated them with minimal casualties. So don't say we are weak.

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

oh no

 

That's probably one of the dumbest comments ive ever seen on here. Completely over that posters head. No surprise though.

17 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Pleeeeeeeeeeze!

Bombing a country is NOT considered an act of war?

 

What about drone strikes that all of the last few presidents partook in ? 

 

Or is that different.

 

Shoot Obama even killed an American citizen with one. You know without judicial authority.

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well that and a President who whole legislative program is collapsing faster than his poll numbers.


A military strike on Iran as a distraction and means to rally support.

 

It does nothing to make Americans.l safer, quite the contrary.

 

But the Peace Nobel prize is now a certainty...

Clinton tried to destroy Saddam's weapons programs in 1998 by bombing Iraq for 4 days. It didn't work, and in 2003 Bush Jr. had to resort to a full scale invasion to get rid of what turned out to be imaginary programs.

This time around who knows what the result will be. Best case is that the rule of the Mullahs end and somehow Iran turns into a democracy. Worst case is that the war spreads and that a desperate Iran attacks military and civilian  targets wherever it can do so.

What's making this so incredibly dangerous is that the US is lead by a person so completely incapable of doing the job he's elected to do it beggars belief. He shouldn't even be allowed to lead gaggle of geese across the road.
In addition, he's surrounded in key positions by persons completely without experience and discernible talent. The perfect recipe for disaster.

 

Trump’s strike on Iran marks a momentous moment — and gamble — for the world

 

"But if Trump’s gamble fails to destroy Iran’s nuclear program — despite his claim to have “obliterated” it with US air strikes — an often-lawless president could have set the United States and the world on a disastrous course. The risk now is that the Iranian regime responds by attacking US forces, targets or civilians in the region and the conflict escalates into a full-scale war."

41 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Pleeeeeeeeeeze!

Bombing a country is NOT considered an act of war?

Technically no. This will be called a necessary military action to protect the US, US personnel and interests and Israel from a nuclear threat. As I have been saying no declaration of war has of yet been made by the POTUS to congress which would then need to be authorized by congress. When the US went into Granada under the Regan administration this was not officially a war. Vietnam. War or police action? Congress never declared it a war so technically the US was not at war with North Vietnam. The same applies for North Korea. Technical and legalistic nonsense no doubt but it is the case.

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Clinton tried to destroy Saddam's weapons programs in 1998 by bombing Iraq for 4 days. It didn't work, and in 2003 Bush Jr. had to resort to a full scale invasion to get rid of what turned out to be imaginary programs.

This time around who knows what the result will be. Best case is that the rule of the Mullahs end and somehow Iran turns into a democracy. Worst case is that the war spreads and that a desperate Iran attacks military and civilian  targets wherever it can do so.

What's making this so incredibly dangerous is that the US is lead by a person so completely incapable of doing the job he's elected to do it beggars belief. He shouldn't even be allowed to lead gaggle of geese across the road.
In addition, he's surrounded in key positions by persons completely without experience and discernible talent. The perfect recipe for disaster.

 

Trump’s strike on Iran marks a momentous moment — and gamble — for the world

 

"But if Trump’s gamble fails to destroy Iran’s nuclear program — despite his claim to have “obliterated” it with US air strikes — an often-lawless president could have set the United States and the world on a disastrous course. The risk now is that the Iranian regime responds by attacking US forces, targets or civilians in the region and the conflict escalates into a full-scale war."

Its almost like your hoping there will be the worst case scenario. Nothing comes without risk but the risk of doing nothing would have been far greater.

 

Meanwhile more grounded heads state:

 

"Starmer said, “Iran's nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security. Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon and the US has taken action to alleviate that threat. The situation in the Middle East remains volatile and stability in the region is a priority. We call on Iran to return to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis.”

 

 

As the Zionist leader Ze’ev Jabotinsky put it: “We were not created in order to teach morals and manners to our enemies.”

Go Israel 🇮🇱 

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53 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:


The USA is the main reason you’re not speaking German today.

 

The Poms should never forget that fact.

Really ,clearly you went to school in the US, i do not say you were educated.

How did you do in history class? Not very well i am sure.

If it was not for the Germans you would still be paying tax to the Uk and you would have a real king,not a fake one.

Oh and one other thing,the US was built by Europeans. If not for immigrants from Europe there would be no US at all!

Oh, i see you are not playing with a full deck,understandable but you should not make a fool of yourself on so many occasions.

Get your facts straight!

 

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

It won't be good for oil prices if Iran decides to choke off 20% of the world's oil supply by mining the Strait of Hormuz.

Never going to happen

9 minutes ago, jvs said:

Get your facts straight!

I suggest you do so by explaining the above.

10 minutes ago, jvs said:

If not for immigrants from Europe there would be no US at all!

Kind of racist of you to disregard the contributions of the slaves

24 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

The risk now is that the Iranian regime responds by attacking US forces, targets or civilians in the region and the conflict escalates into a full-scale war."

Yeah that will work well for Iran. Israel owns the air.

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1 hour ago, transam said:

Ooooh, that ol' chestnut that you had nothing to do with.........😂

 

And the USA should not forget it was formed by mainly mass immigration from Europe, including Germans.........:clap2:................😆

Legal immigration, 

 

The US and the western world are only what they are today because of England's greatness. 

Just now, Yagoda said:

Yeah that will work well for Iran. Israel owns the air.

So Iran is neutralized then and not a danger to anyone? Great news!👍

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:
1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Already? Like in the past week?

 

Months ago.

 

Then why did Trump have to publicly state just last week that Tulsi and the rest of the 'intelligence' agencies were wrong?

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

He hasn't declared war. Declaration of war needs congressional approval. As it is the US is not at war with Iran so no congressional authorization needed.

Pretty sure the bombing is considered an act of war by Iran. The US is a bully in these regards, all ways has been, thats why they are hated worldwide.

This is only done for the terrorist state of Israel.

Trump shod concentrate on the US, and not what every other preside t before him has done, thays what people voted for.

People are sick and tired of US forever wars

 

49 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

But the Peace Nobel prize is now a certainty...

 

Nobel Peace Prize committee: "Sorry, Donald, but it's only going to be Time Man of the Year (again). Take it or leave it."

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Pleeeeeeeeeeze!

Bombing a country is NOT considered an act of war?

 

If you are a Guardian reader, yes. Otherwise...

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