5 minutes ago, SLOWHAND225 said:

One of my good friends lost his 9yr old daughter in the flood. She was one of the kids at Camp

Very sad.

Sorry to hear the above.

 

Camp Mystic was so popular there was a waiting list to get your daughter in:

 

 For campers that are on the waiting list, the deposit is fully refundable at any time. We encourage families to apply early for future summers as campers are accepted based on their original application date.

https://www.campmystic.com/camper-applicationv3/

So why is there no national guard deployed? Or marines? Trump had them in LA within hours for non-existent riots.

3 minutes ago, gargamon said:

So why is there no national guard deployed? Or marines? Trump had them in LA within hours for non-existent riots.

They're for defense. Texas had thousands of police, fire, ems and crisis workers with helicopters,drones and volunteers looking immediately. This has happened before and their response teams do a very good job. 

11 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Sorry to hear the above.

 

Camp Mystic was so popular there was a waiting list to get your daughter in:

 

 For campers that are on the waiting list, the deposit is fully refundable at any time. We encourage families to apply early for future summers as campers are accepted based on their original application date.

https://www.campmystic.com/camper-applicationv3/

It was a very popular place for the wealthy to send their kids president Johnson sent his daughter there just horrific my heart goes out to all affected.

13 minutes ago, gargamon said:

So why is there no national guard deployed? Or marines? Trump had them in LA within hours for non-existent riots.

The National Guard was deployed.

 

liar

15 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

If authorities would have realized increasing heavy storms and floodings within the last hundred years this camp should have been removed.

 

You'd have to remove dozens, maybe hundreds of them.  I've stayed in several retreat centers along the Guadalupe.  And camped on the river.  There are hundreds of places to camp along the river.

 

What you're suggesting would be the equivalent of shutting down Phuket because there's an occasional tsunami or typhoon.

 

21 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

The National Guard was deployed.

 

liar

Prove it.

41 minutes ago, gargamon said:

So why is there no national guard deployed? Or marines? Trump had them in LA within hours for non-existent riots.

Coast guard deployed + Trump has declared it a major disaster.

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You'd have to remove dozens, maybe hundreds of them.  I've stayed in several retreat centers along the Guadalupe.  And camped on the river.  There are hundreds of places to camp along the river.

 

What you're suggesting would be the equivalent of shutting down Phuket because there's an occasional tsunami or typhoon.

 

Your right, better to admit dozens of children to die? 

Oh dear....😳

9 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Your right, better to admit dozens of children to die? 

Oh dear....

 

I guess we'd better clear out Florida and the Texas coast, too.  Kids occasionally die in Hurricanes...

So TH isn't the only place where ding dong people continue to live in flood zones, get flooded out every so often, but don't have the common sense to move, or at least avoid  the area during periods of rain.

 

Weather patterns in the USA and elsewhere, is part of the reason I didn't retire there.  Or I'd be in FL, MX or the Caribbean.

 

Live with your choices

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I guess we'd better clear out Florida and the Texas coast, too.  Kids occasionally die in Hurricanes...

Well, then clear out the river banks at the Potomac too, including vermin in the White House 😂

6 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, then clear out the river banks at the Potomac too, including vermin in the White House 😂

 

Dr Drew (Pinsky) was right.  Helicopter parenting is behind the syndrome.  You're living proof.

 

Latest update.........https://www.yahoo.com/news/least-13-fatalities-reported-texas-210230248.html

10 hours ago, dinsdale said:

There were early warnings. What are you talking about?

 

So these were ignored? What are you talking about?

41 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

So TH isn't the only place where ding dong people continue to live in flood zones, get flooded out every so often, but don't have the common sense to move, or at least avoid  the area during periods of rain.

 

Weather patterns in the USA and elsewhere, is part of the reason I didn't retire there.  Or I'd be in FL, MX or the Caribbean.

 

Live with your choices

 

That's the thing about water and mountains.  The things that make us want to be there are also the very things that make them dangerous.

 

Keep in mind that tubing/kayaking/canoeing on the Guadelupe River in Hill Country is one of the favorite Texas pilgrimages.  Almost a rite of passage for high school and college kids in the state.  Then they have kids and send them to the retreat centers on the river we all love.

 

Happier times on that same river:

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Your right, better to admit dozens of children to die? 

Oh dear....😳

Like I mentioned, people love resort areas, and all come with risks. Those camps have been there up to 100 years, and rarely have problems, although they should have been built higher up on the land available. No one in Phuket and other areas of Thailand thought there would be a tsunami, but it happened and likely will again. Japan had them and millions live at the coasts. The only safe place is the Sahara, but living there isn't much fun. No earthquakes, hurricanes, blizzards, torrential rains, tornadoes, volcano eruptions, floods or bad driving conditions. The only problem is the temperatures which are extremely hot. 

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's the thing about water and mountains.  The things that make us want to be there are also the very things that make them dangerous.

Like woman with a bad history ... some folks just can't stay away 

23 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

So TH isn't the only place where ding dong people continue to live in flood zones, get flooded out every so often, but don't have the common sense to move, or at least avoid  the area during periods of rain.

 

Weather patterns in the USA and elsewhere, is part of the reason I didn't retire there.  Or I'd be in FL, MX or the Caribbean.

 

Live with your choices

True, here you only get rain half the time and hot all the time, where you can't do anything outside besides the beach when it's hot,  with more bugs than almost anywhere, 48 varieties of venomous snakes, the worst drivers on the planet, some of the worst schools anywhere, and a sense that it isn't home. But it's okay if you have AC and are okay with staying inside a large part of the time. The best places to live have 4 seasons, with some having no bugs around, good living conditions, safer driving, good schools and a place you can call home without any fears of being subject to visa changes that might get worse. But, if you're really happy where you live.......

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's the thing about water and mountains.  The things that make us want to be there are also the very things that make them dangerous.

 

Keep in mind that tubing/kayaking/canoeing on the Guadelupe River in Hill Country is one of the favorite Texas pilgrimages.  Almost a rite of passage for high school and college kids in the state.  Then they have kids and send them to the retreat centers on the river we all love.

Just saw a headline about that river, going from 3 to 30+ feet in 1.5 hours ... yikes.

 

Learned early on, to respect Mother Nature, as when she acts up, that's usually one battle you can't win.

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Like I mentioned, people love resort areas, and all come with risks. Those camps have been there up to 100 years, and rarely have problems, although they should have been built higher up on the land available. No one in Phuket and other areas of Thailand thought there would be a tsunami, but it happened and likely will again. Japan had them and millions live at the coasts. The only safe place is the Sahara, but living there isn't much fun. No earthquakes, hurricanes, blizzards, torrential rains, tornadoes, volcano eruptions, floods or bad driving conditions. The only problem is the temperatures which are extremely hot. 

Wrong context.

It's not about earth quakes but floodings. And those happen more often. So this incident was  foreseeable. But if you deny climate change (more heavier storms and rain) then you will have to accept more casualties like this.

45 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I guess we'd better clear out Florida and the Texas coast, too.  Kids occasionally die in Hurricanes...

 

Nah, just increase their insurance premiums, they'll get the hint. Same with people on the Guadalupe River, as they are about to have a snowballs chance in Hell of getting any affordable insurance in the near future.

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Just saw a headline about that river, going from 3 to 30+ feet in 1.5 hours ... yikes.

 

Learned early on, to respect Mother Nature, as when she acts up, that's usually one battle you can't win.

This is the Llano River, which rose this much in 30 minutes............https://www.nbcnews.com/video/time-lapse-captures-fast-rising-river-in-texas-242760773836

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Wrong context.

It's not about earth quakes but floodings. And those happen more often. So this incident was  foreseeable. But if you deny climate change (more heavier storms and rain) then you will have to accept more casualties like this.

They weren't prepared in this case, as a water siren could have saved all of them who responded to it. Texas has a lot of floodings because of the geography. Thailand has them yearly also. Hurricanes happen yearly, and in the same places much of the time, as do earthquakes,tornadoes, and blizzards. All parts of the same problems. natural disasters where people pay a price because of living too close to where they happen and  greed.  

4 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Nah, just increase their insurance premiums, they'll get the hint. Same with people on the Guadalupe River, as they are about to have a snowballs chance in Hell of getting any affordable insurance in the near future.

Many people in Texas and Louisiana have to get extra flood insurance because of living where they do. Some just put houses and buildings where they don't belong. We call them big shots, who like to show off where they're living even though many of their houses are eyesores where woods and clear beaches should be. 

9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

True, here you only get rain half the time and hot all the time, where you can't do anything outside besides the beach when it's hot,  with more bugs than almost anywhere, 48 varieties of venomous snakes, the worst drivers on the planet, some of the worst schools anywhere, and a sense that it isn't home. But it's okay if you have AC and are okay with staying inside a large part of the time. The best places to live have 4 seasons, with some having no bugs around, good living conditions, safer driving, good schools and a place you can call home without any fears of being subject to visa changes that might get worse. But, if you're really happy where you live.......

Geez ... she must of really done you wrong 

 

... no problem with the heat

... mozzies easily avoided

... snakes usually going away from me

... drivers are excellent

... schools prepared my daughter for top paying job

... never felt more at home than in TH

 

All off topic of course.

On topic ... Live with your choices

 

Avoid flood zones

7 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Geez ... she must of really done you wrong 

 

... no problem with the heat

... mozzies easily avoided

... snakes usually going away from me

... drivers are excellent

... schools prepared my daughter for top paying job

... never felt more at home than in TH

 

All off topic of course.

On topic ... Live with your choices

 

Avoid flood zones

Like I said, if you like living here and you're comfortable, that's okay for you. Mosquitoes are avoided by staying inside or having a good repellent and electronic bug zappers close by.

 

Drivers are some of the worse on the planet and the daily carnage proves this, as it leads the world most of the time, or is right at the top.

 

Only takes one snakebite for a person to understand what happens. Most don't think about it until it hits close to home, and it's life changing or worse.

 

Only an international school here gives children what they need to get a decent job, and that job would pay much more in the west. The average school here teaches very little besides the language, and this is also coming from a friend who owns an English school  near where I live, a 70 year old Thai man taught in the US.

 

Nothing to do with her doing me wrong. Both myself and my daughter will have a much better life back home.

21 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the NY Times this could be considered a microburst:

MBs are short, usually less than 20 minutes. This wasn't a microburst. 

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

They weren't prepared in this case,

They got the time:

The last 100 years.

But they didn't learn. And they won't because most parts of the govt deny climate change. 

And some dead children are collateral damage obviously.