Well, it had been forecast by the more informed and rational forumers that Jones would be let off for his clear incitement to violence - encouraging his supporters to slash conservatives throats. Unlike mean tweet conservatives who were banged up for years for offenses a million times less severe.

 

I think we can all agree now the UK has 2 tier justice. Soft for the left, draconian for the rest of us. Disgusting.

 

"A suspended Labour councillor who said far-Right activists’ throats should be cut thanked jurors after they cleared him of encouraging violent disorder.

Ricky Jones, 58, faced trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court accused of the offence after he described demonstrators as “disgusting Nazi fascists”."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/15/suspended-labour-councillor-ricky-jones-not-guilty/

It was a trial and the jury acquitted him; blame the jury or inept prosecution rather than the justice system.

21 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Well, it had been forecast by the more informed and rational forumers that Jones would be let off for his clear incitement to violence - encouraging his supporters to slash conservatives throats. Unlike mean tweet conservatives who were banged up for years for offenses a million times less severe.

 

I think we can all agree now the UK has 2 tier justice. Soft for the left, draconian for the rest of us. Disgusting.

 

"A suspended Labour councillor who said far-Right activists’ throats should be cut thanked jurors after they cleared him of encouraging violent disorder.

Ricky Jones, 58, faced trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court accused of the offence after he described demonstrators as “disgusting Nazi fascists”."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/15/suspended-labour-councillor-ricky-jones-not-guilty/

 the prosecution looks to minimise the violent  hate speech  cause it was about a rightwinger,right?

 

 

 

He was charged, remanded in custody, and, eventually, acquitted by a jury of his peers.  How is that two-tier justice?

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

He was charged, remanded in custody, and, eventually, acquitted by a jury of his peers.  How is that two-tier justice?

 

Because "Everybody loves Lucy"

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Because "Everybody loves Lucy"

You may be right!  👍

So found not guilty by a jury in an open court of law.

 

That’s “not guilty” for the slow amongst us.

If his ire had been directed at " Asylum seekers " instead of right wingers , you can be sure they would have thrown the book at him and given him at least 3 yrs . 

8 minutes ago, persimmon said:

If his ire had been directed at " Asylum seekers " instead of right wingers , you can be sure they would have thrown the book at him and given him at least 3 yrs . 

We now wander into the realms of imagination to ensure sufficient coals to self stoke the fires of grievance.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We now wander into the realms of imagination to ensure sufficient coals to self stoke the fires of grievance.

I find politicians encouraging their supporters to cut the throats of conservatives (not a crime)far worse than frustrated tweets by housewives(major crime & banged up for years). Clearly a sentiment not shared by the forum woke. Never mind, have to agree to disagree on this one old chap.

But can we just for a second imagine if sir Tommy told his fans to cut the throats of muslims. I can barely write it for fear of stormtroopers smashing my door in. I would personally prefer one judicial standard with punishments relative to the severity of the crime, rather than lefty criminals going free and normal folk getting banged up for nowt.

 

 

8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I find politicians encouraging their supporters to cut the throats of conservatives (not a crime)far worse than frustrated tweets by housewives(major crime banged & up for years). Clearly a sentiment not shared by the forum woke. Never mind, have to agree to disagree on this one old chap.

But can we just for a second imagine if sir Tommy told his fans to cut the throats of muslims. I can barely write it for fear of stormtroopers smashing my door in. I would personally prefer one judicial standard with punishments relative to the severity of the crime, rather than lefty criminals going free and normal folk getting banged up for nowt.

 

 

Lets stick to facts, rather than your grievance mongering.

 

A jury heard the evidence and acquitted Ricky Jones.

 

Lucy Connolly pled guilty and her sentence was upheld on appeal.

 

Several juries have convicted Yaxley Lennon and there’s reason to believe several more might have the opportunity to do likewise.

 

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/ideas/law/the-weekly-constitutional/69986/understanding-the-sentence-of-lucy-connolly

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Several juries have convicted Yaxley Lennon and there’s reason to believe several more might have the opportunity to do likewise.

Yes yes. Journalism with receipts to back up a politically uncomfortable story is not allowed in woke Britain. Telling truth with evidence can be a serious crime it seems.

Doesn't change the fact the Syrian lad was a vile nasty bully that got his just deserts as anyone that took the time to watched "Silenced" can attest to.

Again, agree to disagree.

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Well, it had been forecast by the more informed and rational forumers that Jones would be let off for his clear incitement to violence - encouraging his supporters to slash conservatives throats. Unlike mean tweet conservatives who were banged up for years for offenses a million times less severe.

 

I think we can all agree now the UK has 2 tier justice. Soft for the left, draconian for the rest of us. Disgusting.

 

"A suspended Labour councillor who said far-Right activists’ throats should be cut thanked jurors after they cleared him of encouraging violent disorder.

Ricky Jones, 58, faced trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court accused of the offence after he described demonstrators as “disgusting Nazi fascists”."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/15/suspended-labour-councillor-ricky-jones-not-guilty/

 

The left get hit too.

Grannies etc got arrested in their hundreds merely for holding up a placard supporting  Palestine Action which has been declared a terrorist group because......

The idiots sneaked into an RAF base and daubed a few planes with red paint. Stupid, yes, but hardly an act of terrorism, surely, gov?

So the protestors are potentially facing convictions with lengthy jail sentences for holding up placards supporting paint vandals!

I can see another U-turn coming on, Kiev.

 

 

Police have arrested 474 people at a demonstration in London in support of banned group Palestine Action.

 

Scores of people simultaneously unveiled handwritten signs with the message "I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action" at the protest, organised by Defend Our Juries at Westminster's Parliament Square.

 

It was the biggest protest since the government proscribed the group in July under the Terrorism Act of 2000, making membership of or support for it a criminal offence, punishable by up to 14 years in prison.

No officers were seriously injured, and the Met Police said the number of arrests was the largest made by the force on a single day in the last 10 years.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8de6rq37v5o

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lucy Connolly pled guilty and her sentence was upheld on appeal.

IMO, she (maybe others too) was poorly represented by her lawyers and should have taken her case to trial by jury. I suspect that a jury of her peers would have acquitted her, for the same reasons that Jones was acquitted - her words were hyperbole and carried no real threat to anyone.

 

BTW - I disagree wholeheartedly with her views.

24 minutes ago, bannork said:

 

The left get hit too.

Grannies etc got arrested in their hundreds merely for holding up a placard supporting  Palestine Action which has been declared a terrorist group because......

The idiots sneaked into an RAF base and daubed a few planes with red paint. Stupid, yes, but hardly an act of terrorism, surely, gov?

So the protestors are potentially facing convictions with lengthy jail sentences for holding up placards supporting paint vandals!

I can see another U-turn coming on, Kiev.

 

 

Police have arrested 474 people at a demonstration in London in support of banned group Palestine Action.

 

Scores of people simultaneously unveiled handwritten signs with the message "I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action" at the protest, organised by Defend Our Juries at Westminster's Parliament Square.

 

It was the biggest protest since the government proscribed the group in July under the Terrorism Act of 2000, making membership of or support for it a criminal offence, punishable by up to 14 years in prison.

No officers were seriously injured, and the Met Police said the number of arrests was the largest made by the force on a single day in the last 10 years.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8de6rq37v5o

 

 

 

..... but no changes.  

2 hours ago, Stocky said:

It was a trial and the jury acquitted him; blame the jury or inept prosecution rather than the justice system.

 

The jury must have been 12 brown labour voters. So can we all now call in the streets for people we don't like to have their throats cut? He was undeniably guilty as it was all on film, calling for murder.

6 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

He was charged, remanded in custody, and, eventually, acquitted by a jury of his peers.  How is that two-tier justice?

 

He was initially remanded but bailed soon after and, partly due to his trial being postponed, had over a year out of prison to mount his defence.

 

Lucy Connelly was refused bail which is highly unusual given the nature of the offence.

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes yes. Journalism with receipts to back up a politically uncomfortable story is not allowed in woke Britain. Telling truth with evidence can be a serious crime it seems.

Doesn't change the fact the Syrian lad was a vile nasty bully that got his just deserts as anyone that took the time to watched "Silenced" can attest to.

Again, agree to disagree.

More counterfactual nonsense.

 

Here’s some actual journalism to help you back to reality:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/22/tommy-robinson-loses-libel-case-brought-by-syrian-schoolboy

 

7 hours ago, proton said:

 

The jury must have been 12 brown labour voters. So can we all now call in the streets for people we don't like to have their throats cut? He was undeniably guilty as it was all on film, calling for murder.

More imaginary nonsense to feed your self stoked grievance.

 

He undoubtedly said what he said, he was acquitted of the charges against him. Not Guilty! 

Ricky Jones was charged with encouraging violent disorder, presumably by his words and cut-throat action.  He was found not guilty by a jury.

 

Now suppose I go to central London and use an amplification system (as he did), and used his exact same words, but substituted 'nazi fascists' for something like 'leftwing scum', and made the same cut-throat action.  Do you really think that I would not be charged and arrested?

 

And if that happened, and I plead Not Guilty, as a white man and with right-wing (not fascist) views, do you also think that a jury would acquit me?

 

Perhaps during my planned trip to London in a few weeks I should try this, and you can then send me postcards, since I'll surely be banged up!

7 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Ricky Jones was charged with encouraging violent disorder, presumably by his words and cut-throat action.  He was found not guilty by a jury.

 

Now suppose I go to central London and use an amplification system (as he did), and used his exact same words, but substituted 'nazi fascists' for something like 'leftwing scum', and made the same cut-throat action.  Do you really think that I would not be charged and arrested?

 

And if that happened, and I plead Not Guilty, as a white man and with right-wing (not fascist) views, do you also think that a jury would acquit me?

 

Perhaps during my planned trip to London in a few weeks I should try this, and you can then send me postcards, since I'll surely be banged up!

 

Postcards. Oh my, how quaint.

 

By all means, please go ahead and test your hypothetical nonsense.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More counterfactual nonsense.

 

Here’s some actual journalism to help you back to reality:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/22/tommy-robinson-loses-libel-case-brought-by-syrian-schoolboy

 

 

Journalism and the Guardian? the Guardian is more like far left activism, see Tommy's film for some real journalism on the case. 

43 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Journalism and the Guardian? the Guardian is more like far left activism, see Tommy's film for some real journalism on the case. 

 

Poor, broke-arsed Tommy, England's little hero.

 

https://www.facebook.com/TruthAgainstHate/posts/tommy-robinsons-so-called-defence-of-bailey-mclaren-in-his-infamous-silenced-doc/1077841981047445/

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Poor, broke-arsed Tommy, England's little hero.

 

https://www.facebook.com/TruthAgainstHate/posts/tommy-robinsons-so-called-defence-of-bailey-mclaren-in-his-infamous-silenced-doc/1077841981047445/

 

 

 

 

 

 

^ Thanks for that, much appreciated.

2 hours ago, simon43 said:

He was found not guilty by a jury.

 

Of his peers.

 

Chapter 39 of King John's Magna Carta (1215) includes the guarantee that no free man may suffer punishment without "the lawful judgment of his peers." 

 

Q.E.D.

On 8/15/2025 at 8:19 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

He was charged, remanded in custody, and, eventually, acquitted by a jury of his peers.  How is that two-tier justice?

 

Because the FaceBook posters were arrested, charged, tried and jailed within a week for unusually long sentences for less serious offenses. 

 

But then, they were right wing critics of the government. Not Labour councillors.

 

This just cranks up the pressure cooker even more. 

The trial of Labour Councillor Ricky Jones had a jury that was 50% non-British, a judge that was a diversity champion. Not a surprise they only took 7 minutes to make a not guilty decision.🤔

 

 

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

The trial of Labour Councillor Ricky Jones had a jury that was 50% non-British, a judge that was a diversity champion. Not a surprise they only took 7 minutes to make a not guilty decision.🤔

 

 

 

Yes they had it all sewn up quite nicely. 

 

Apparently calling for throats to be slit while addressing a crowd in public is not encouraging violent disorder. 😃

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Because the FaceBook posters were arrested, charged, tried and jailed within a week for unusually long sentences for less serious offenses. 

 

But then, they were right wing critics of the government. Not Labour councillors.

 

This just cranks up the pressure cooker even more. 

 

Different circumstances.  Many of the ''facebook posters'' and rioters pleaded guilty to public order offences; due the volatile situation a fast-track or rapid response system was implemented.

 

Jones' cases was more complicated, like Lucy Connolly's, as he was charged with encouraging public disorder.  He also pleaded not guilty which meant a full trial had to be held..