On 11/21/2025 at 4:08 AM, parafareno said:

i am just 50 but i dont want to put 8000000 bht in my bank account

Have you looked into the new DTV (5 year, multiple entry visa)?

 

Some people have reportedly been able to get them on the basis of just a single medical appointment.

On 11/21/2025 at 4:12 AM, parafareno said:

isnt it illegal for agents to do it that way? 

It's explicitly illegal to deny entry for "coming too much/often" per the Immigration Act.  What is "legal" is whatever some <self-censored> official says is legal.  They do whatever they want, within the limits of what the deep-pockets permit them to get away with.

 

On 11/21/2025 at 4:16 AM, it is what it is said:

being here illegally makes life more difficult for those of us who are legally entitled to be here.

Immigration running scams is the problem - but don't hold your breath for them to stop turning screws, to increase their brown-envelope money-streams - which is what every "crackdown" has accomplished.

 

On 11/21/2025 at 2:37 PM, Liquorice said:

If you can spend 6 months in Thailand, then it would be safe to assume you have proof of stable retirement income.

Exactly - because there is no welfare for foreigners here, so you have proved you have the funds to support yourself, and manage your financial affairs in Thailand.  It's the newbie who is more likely to blow all their money, and wind up destitute.

you still can do at least 2 visa exempt and a 30 days extension a year,it is good for 150 days 5 months

2 minutes ago, karonbeach said:

you still can do at least 2 visa exempt and a 30 days extension a year,it is good for 150 days 5 months

well what is the border office had a bad day?   I would stay 5 months anyways max....

I just dont want to be refused at the border and then having a hustle to fly to another country etc....and I would spend a lot of money in thailand....but i guess thailand wants to make new rules again and then cry they dont have enough tourists

 

I just dont have a guarantee they will let me do another visa exempt after 60 + 30 days spending in thailand....it is just a bug hassle...some people now claim you cant do border hop that you need to fly out and back in...and even then it is a hassle

On 11/20/2025 at 9:15 AM, parafareno said:

i used to do 60 days visa expept...than 30 days extension, then border run and get 60 days plus another extension...so total 6 months

 

is it true that this is not possible anymore?  that you need to do 60 + 30  then air travel and you get 30 + 7?

 

WHy new stuopid rules all of a sudden?

 

Just get an METV and then you don't have to worry about it.

On 11/21/2025 at 4:16 AM, it is what it is said:

 

this is illegal, condoning and encouraging illegal activity should not be allowed on this forum. 

 

if you don't/can't meet the legal requirements to be in thailand then you should not be here.

 

being here illegally makes life more difficult for those of us who are legally entitled to be here.

If so illegal then why do the gov . Allow it.Or is this an agent bashing gripe.Not everyone who wants to stay here legally can have money sitting ,untouchable almost in a bank.

On 11/21/2025 at 12:15 AM, parafareno said:

i used to do 60 days visa expept...than 30 days extension, then border run and get 60 days plus another extension...so total 6 months

 

is it true that this is not possible anymore?  that you need to do 60 + 30  then air travel and you get 30 + 7?

 

WHy new stuopid rules all of a sudden?

Obtain the correct visa and you are welcome to stay longer

On 11/21/2025 at 4:10 AM, scubascuba3 said:

It's 800k, 1900 a year, or just use an agent, about 30k first 15 months then 15k a year 

or do an LTR if you meet the requirements - 50K for ten years, no 90-day reports, in and out of country without getting having any problem returning..only need to provide local address  once a year and no sitting deposits in bank.

5 minutes ago, Presnock said:

or do an LTR if you meet the requirements - 50K for ten years, no 90-day reports, in and out of country without getting having any problem returning..only need to provide local address  once a year and no sitting deposits in bank.

Based on that the usual retirement one is better. 90 day online reports 1 minute, no problems leaving or entering the country, 65k a month avoids sitting deposits 

On 11/21/2025 at 12:15 AM, parafareno said:

i used to do 60 days visa expept...than 30 days extension, then border run and get 60 days plus another extension...so total 6 months

 

is it true that this is not possible anymore?  that you need to do 60 + 30  then air travel and you get 30 + 7?

 

WHy new stuopid rules all of a sudden?

Welcome to Thailand, or maybe not.

Trolling posts and reply removed 

 

2 hours ago, karonbeach said:

you still can do at least 2 visa exempt and a 30 days extension a year,it is good for 150 days 5 months

I thought the new rules were 60 days visa exempt + 30 days extension + a final extension of 7 days. So if you want to stay more than 97 days you should be applying for the proper visa at the start and not come in as a tourist in a visa-exempt. Can't see where you get the 150 days from. Please correct me if I've misunderstood the new rules.

5 minutes ago, banyanman said:

I thought the new rules were 60 days visa exempt + 30 days extension + a final extension of 7 days. So if you want to stay more than 97 days you should be applying for the proper visa at the start and not come in as a tourist in a visa-exempt. Can't see where you get the 150 days from. Please correct me if I've misunderstood the new rules.

My understanding was/is that is the the extension of an second exempt entry that is limited to 7 days, so (60+30)+(60+7).

On 11/21/2025 at 4:17 AM, scubascuba3 said:

No, immigration work with the agents, you'll get treated like a VIP

This is actually true, you don't even have to go into the immigration office usually. just hand over your passport, bank book and the readies, and you're good to go. 

On 11/21/2025 at 4:19 AM, scubascuba3 said:

You're talking garbage, thousands work with Immigration and agents for a retirement visa/extension

...yes, thousands walk on thin Ice.....How st@pid can someone be?

On 11/21/2025 at 8:19 AM, soi3eddie said:

 

The above is an ideal and bullet proof suggestion to suit the OP's topic. He could then obtain a Thai bank account for future use. 

 

Or do what I did in 2018, put the 800k Baht in a separate Thai account and simply forget about it. Since then, one visit to immigration annually at 1,900 Baht and get a re-entry permit at the airport on exit. No worries about denial or questions on return. I spend just under 6 months in Thailand per year. 

 

But some of us can't simply forget about the interest it could earn in 7 years. 😊

On 11/21/2025 at 4:12 AM, parafareno said:

isnt it illegal for agents to do it that way? 

Immigration don’t think so, they are aware what agents do and the majority of the cash allegedly.

1 hour ago, ujayujay said:

...yes, thousands walk on thin Ice.....How st@pid can someone be?

The ice is thicker than you think.

1 hour ago, ujayujay said:

...yes, thousands walk on thin Ice.....How st@pid can someone be?

Certainly there are stupid people who don't get what's going on

1 hour ago, SunsetT said:

But some of us can't simply forget about the interest it could earn in 7 years. 😊

 

I know. That is often said. I just look at the difference cost in interest, as the cost of easy annual extension of stay. 🙂

3 hours ago, banyanman said:

I thought the new rules were 60 days visa exempt + 30 days extension + a final extension of 7 days. So if you want to stay more than 97 days you should be applying for the proper visa at the start and not come in as a tourist in a visa-exempt. Can't see where you get the 150 days from. Please correct me if I've misunderstood the new rules.

3 hours ago, Upnotover said:

My understanding was/is that is the the extension of an second exempt entry that is limited to 7 days, so (60+30)+(60+7).

 

My understanding from the many news and agents reports is that VE entries are now limited to 2 per calendar year.

If entering via a land border, extensions are not permitted.
If entering by air or sea, a 30 day extension is permitted for the first 60 day entry, but for a second 60 day entry a 30 day extension will be refused but you'll be issued a 7 day extension.

 

Many reports point to the figure of 150 days in Thailand per calendar year for Tourists, before being questioned and possibly denied entry.

Less than 2% of those entering VE stay more than 14 days per entry.

These changes are really aimed at those doing frequent border runs, attempting to stay in Thailand for long periods.

On 11/21/2025 at 4:08 AM, parafareno said:

i am just 50 but i dont want to put 8000000 bht in my bank account

You don't have to. 800,000 baht is all you need, after which you can obtain annual extensions.

On 11/21/2025 at 4:08 AM, parafareno said:

i am just 50 but i dont want to put 8000000 bht in my bank account

 

Thats a typo .. right? .  i assume you mean 800,000.

14 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

You don't have to. 800,000 baht is all you need, after which you can obtain annual extensions.

Nice catch😆

On 11/21/2025 at 4:08 AM, parafareno said:

i am just 50 but i dont want to put 8000000 bht in my bank account

 

I transferred a higher number this fall, and if I was going to transfer the same amount today, I saved almost 60k by picking the highest exchange rate since April! 

 

I calculate with stronger Thai baht in future, and also being taxed for everything I will transfer when I'm moving back in a few years. So I prefer to keep a nice savings here with interest close to 2 percent, and easy visa every year.

On 11/21/2025 at 2:03 AM, DrJack54 said:

A non O eVisa is obtained outside of Thailand online. 

It's obtained on the eVisa platform. 

It has a cost. It's approved online by immigration. 

For a second Non O you would need to exit Thailand to obtain it. 

Point is folk doing that are not using visa exempt or 30 day extensions

 

How high do you rate the chances of someone entering on Non-0 (Retirement) obtained in home country, THEN on day 89 going to say Vietnam for a week and returning visa exempt? Would that be extendable for 30 days?

 

Just after your opinion - I won't quote you if they refuse me entry the second time ;D

 

19 minutes ago, BusyB said:

How high do you rate the chances of someone entering on Non-0 (Retirement) obtained in home country, THEN on day 89 going to say Vietnam for a week and returning visa exempt? Would that be extendable for 30 days?

Assuming past history not extreme that plan would work IMO. 

You would need plan to explain to io on return visa exempt some reason eg your funds were not seasoned long enough. 

Also a flight out of Thailand within 60 days. 

 

If you wish to continue ongoing visit Thailand for long periods then best option is annual extensions.. 

If financials an issue chat with agent. 

Experience in Thailand. From other forum, translated

 

This morning, November 20th, I went to immigration at Chiang Mai airport. A good friend, a Thai woman with a lot of experience, provided extensive assistance and listened carefully to the immigration staff.

It turns out that the new "policy" was implemented retroactively to November 1st. Anyone who entered on or after November 1st will receive an extension of up to 7 days.

My wife entered on October 29th and received a 30-day extension.

I personally asked a few questions at the information desk.

They indicated that the 60-day exemption is not a law, but rather the immigration "leniency policy." It is not a visa, they stated.

When asked if you "simply" receive a 60-day stamp upon entry, they indicated that it "could be different." General advice: apply for an e-tourist visa before coming to Thailand.

This morning, quite a few people emerged from immigration with a maximum extension of 7 days. Many people are very disappointed, partly because their “policy” has been changed without prior notice.

17 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Based on that the usual retirement one is better. 90 day online reports 1 minute, no problems leaving or entering the country, 65k a month avoids sitting deposits 

the cost over a 10-year period is actually less if leaving and returning each year due to return permit and no income tax worry as foreign funds are exempt too.  just saying if one does meet the requirements.

11 hours ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Experience in Thailand. From other forum, translated

 

This morning, November 20th, I went to immigration at Chiang Mai airport. A good friend, a Thai woman with a lot of experience, provided extensive assistance and listened carefully to the immigration staff.

It turns out that the new "policy" was implemented retroactively to November 1st. Anyone who entered on or after November 1st will receive an extension of up to 7 days.

My wife entered on October 29th and received a 30-day extension.

I personally asked a few questions at the information desk.

They indicated that the 60-day exemption is not a law, but rather the immigration "leniency policy." It is not a visa, they stated.

When asked if you "simply" receive a 60-day stamp upon entry, they indicated that it "could be different." General advice: apply for an e-tourist visa before coming to Thailand.

This morning, quite a few people emerged from immigration with a maximum extension of 7 days. Many people are very disappointed, partly because their “policy” has been changed without prior notice.

so everybody that comes to thailand now on visa exempt gets only 7 days instead of 60??? are you kidding me? you must be joking dude...or is that when you do 60 + 30 days???