6 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Those figures are based on the 2021 Census - which a large percentage of the Muslim population did not complete - and certainly not the illegals. Yes UK is still 'Christian' overall, but the number of Muslims is far greater than as depicted in the Census.   They found the same problem in Sweden - the Muslims dont provide their details in response to Census requests.  

 

The thing that concerns me most about that map is that it seems to show a strategic concentration, to get a critical mass and expand from there.  If I were cynical, I'd say it looks deliberate.

 

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Isn't Christianity just another minority religion in the UK and Britain is nowadays a secular society?

Correct.

 

22 minutes ago, impulse said:

London, eh?  Anywhere but that little green spot, and the teacher may still be employed, given that there IS an official state religion in England and he/she got it right:

 

 

Source:  vividmaps.com

 

Religion in the United Kingdom and Ireland - Vivid Maps

 

 

London's Muslim population is substantial and growing, reaching over 1.3 million in the 2021 Census, making up 15% of the city, and Islam is now the second-largest religion there. This reflects a significant rise from 2011, with key areas like Tower Hamlets and Newham having very high concentrations, and overall, Muslims form a major, diverse community within the UK's capital. 

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

do you have evidence these Muslim children moved to the UK?

Who mentioned children........?.....🥸...............😂

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Who mentioned children........?.....🥸...............😂

They get a mention in the OP.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

They get a mention in the OP.

The OP isn't me..............😉

The little JonnyFs of this world are simply jumping on the weaponisation rhetoric as usual over something over nothing.

Fact - teachers should know better than to belittle the faith of a child in a classroom setting. This is discrimination and harmful, not something most reasonable minded people tag along with. 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

When they are in school they need to follow the school rules.

 

They don't get a special pass because of their religion. They wouldn't be allowed to follow widespread Muslim practices of opposing LGBT classmates or treating the girls in the class as second class citizens and demanding separate spaces from them either.

 

They are in Britian now.  

Working as a schoolteacher in UK council estate high schools 2001-2009

I knew better than to venture any opinion that wasn't in the textbook in front of me.

And what they did in the toilets (mainly taking drugs and having sex) was none of my business.

 

School rules were the responsibility for the head and deputy head.

 

Thanks for the thumbs down, guess you never worked in a UK school, where you need to keep your head down, your mouth shut, and your thoughts to yourself, if you want to keep bringing home the money.

21 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

London's Muslim population is substantial and growing, reaching over 1.3 million in the 2021 Census, making up 15% of the city, and Islam is now the second-largest religion there. This reflects a significant rise from 2011, with key areas like Tower Hamlets and Newham having very high concentrations, and overall, Muslims form a major, diverse community within the UK's capital. 

 

And yet they claim the Great Replacement Theory is debunked!

 

Do you figure there may be a strategy behind placing them in a concentrated area, in the seat of power?

 

 

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Working as a schoolteacher in UK council estate high schools 2001-2009

I knew better than to venture any opinion that wasn't in the textbook in front of me.

And what they did in the toilets (mainly taking drugs and having sex) was none of my business.

 

School rules where the responsibility for the head and deputy head.

Never expected to agree with anything you post, but in this instance I'll make an exception:-)

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Thanks for the thumbs down, guess you never worked in a UK school, where you need to keep your head down if you want to keep bringing home the money.

 

Oh, I don't know.  There were 2 times I was getting the crap knocked out of me in the boys' room and I was happy to see a teacher.  Especially a gym teacher/wrestling coach.  That was during forced busing in Charlotte in the '70s, and that's another topic for a different thread...

King Charles is  the head of the Church of England, which is a Christian religious organization last time I looked. So safe to say (one might think) that if the monarch is head of Christian church then follows that UK is a Christian nation.... if in some heathen barbarian country like mine (USA), then could not say it is a Christian church due to that Constitution thing....

4 minutes ago, Emdog said:

King Charles is  the head of the Church of England, which is a Christian religious organization last time I looked. So safe to say (one might think) that if the monarch is head of Christian church then follows that UK is a Christian nation.... if in some heathen barbarian country like mine (USA), then could not say it is a Christian church due to that Constitution thing....

 

 

Legally and institutionally, yes.

 

Socially and culturally, hmmmm.

18 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Working as a schoolteacher in UK council estate high schools 2001-2009

I knew better than to venture any opinion that wasn't in the textbook in front of me.

And what they did in the toilets (mainly taking drugs and having sex) was none of my business.

 

School rules were the responsibility for the head and deputy head.

 

Thanks for the thumbs down, guess you never worked in a UK school, where you need to keep your head down, your mouth shut, and your thoughts to yourself, if you want to keep bringing home the money.

 

I'm confused. Did you reply to the correct post?

The UK is toast, as it refuses to protect its borders and allows anyone in regardless of anything, then turns around and says it can't deport serious criminals/terrorists due to some ludicrously lame excuse like the cells in their home country are too small and cold or that the food isn't good enough etc.. and some unelected and hopelessly out-of-touch deluded judge signs off on it. It will not be long before it will change to the Islamic Caliphate of Britain where caucasian people are persecuted and a minority.

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm confused. Did you reply to the correct post?

Yes I did, your expectations about what happens in UK schools may have been correct in the 1970s.

But teachers jobs, and UK schools have changed since then.

19 minutes ago, Palatus said:

The little JonnyFs of this world are simply jumping on the weaponisation rhetoric as usual over something over nothing.

Fact - teachers should know better than to belittle the faith of a child in a classroom setting. This is discrimination and harmful, not something most reasonable minded people tag along with. 

 

A teacher getting sacked for stating a fact is not nothing.

 

I think a lot of people are getting tired of having to bow down to minorities that we welcomed to the UK with open arms. The British people have bent over backwards to accommodate diverse groups and there seems to be no gratitude, no upside and a plethora of downsides.

 

When asked for the upside, most leftists name their favourite curry. That speaks volumes. 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A teacher getting sacked for stating a fact is not nothing.

But entirely predictable.

In a UK school, a teachers place is to read from the textbook (provided by the school) in front of them.

No personal opinions on anything, no talk of any kind about sexuality, religion or politics ever.

It's been that way from at least the 1990s.

37 minutes ago, impulse said:

The thing that concerns me most about that map is that it seems to show a strategic concentration, to get a critical mass and expand from there.  If I were cynical, I'd say it looks deliberate.

 

Clearly true - and obvious. Whenever I see things like that I immediately look at who created them. Often the source is a Public Service or an Academic - and given that 70-80% of them are woke liberals and vote accordingly, you know they are going to create politically biased reports and documents. 

 

Many years ago people like Enoch Powell and Joseph McCarthy and others (George Orwell) warned society about the dangers of left wing politics and what is would do to society is allowed to grow - they were mainly ignored and the dangers were played down.  Well the truth is they were right - we all know things are just not 'right' is our societies and there is insanity across so many areas - the reason is the growth of delusional left wing ideologies with our society's institutions - both Government and Businesses.  There is only one solution - tear them down and throw them out - as per The Trump Factor. 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Yes I did, your expectations about what happens in UK schools may have been correct in the 1970s.

But teachers jobs, and UK schools have changed since then.

 

Oh. You didn't seem to address any of my points. But OK.

 

I was at secondary school in the 80's and I didn't "thumbs down" your post. You are correct I have never been a teacher though, I cannot think of anything worse. I am surprised you turned a blind eye to drugs and sex in the toilets but maybe that's what teachers do now...

 

Your point seems to be that as a teacher you have to keep your mouth shut and follow the leftist narrative to avoid getting sacked. I am in agreement with that. I do not think it is correct though. Schools and Universities should be places where all ideas can be accepted and explored but sadly that is not the case now as the left has taken over and tries to shut down/cancel 'dissenting' voices (different opinions). 

6 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

The UK is toast, as it refuses to protect its borders and allows anyone in regardless of anything, then turns around and says it can't deport serious criminals/terrorists due to some ludicrously lame excuse like the cells in their home country are too small and cold or that the food isn't good enough etc.. and some unelected and hopelessly out-of-touch deluded judge signs off on it. It will not be long before it will change to the Islamic Caliphate of Britain where caucasian people are persecuted and a minority.

Dont laugh people - think about it.  How long did it take Muslims to conquer and control Malaysia and Indonesia, which were Asian countries thousands of Ks away from Arabia.  They did that with no supporting Laws and no Human Rights rules etc.  They are using our own goodness to destroy our societies, and it is not them to blame - it is us for allowing it to happen.  We were warned many times - and now it is happening and there is no way to stop it. The Muslims will keep coming (not as much now) - and they will outbreed us - and they will convert our idiot young - and they will pass more and more pro-Islam laws and rules - and slowly slowly they will take over. 

21 minutes ago, Emdog said:

King Charles is  the head of the Church of England, which is a Christian religious organization last time I looked. So safe to say (one might think) that if the monarch is head of Christian church then follows that UK is a Christian nation.... if in some heathen barbarian country like mine (USA), then could not say it is a Christian church due to that Constitution thing....

It doesn’t follow.

Separation of State and Religion is very wise, and was in the case of the U.S. Constitution, determined upon on the basis of the then recent history of European religious persecution and religious wars.

 

 

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But entirely predictable.

In a UK school, a teachers place is to read from the textbook (provided by the school) in front of them.

No personal opinions on anything, no talk of any kind about sexuality, religion or politics ever.

It's been that way from at least the 1990s.

Was it ever your duty as a teacher to reprimand any child for following their own faith?

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Was it ever your duty as a teacher to reprimand any child for following their own faith?

Their faith was not any teachers business, and certainly not mine.

And when teaching RE, I just read from whatever textbook the school provided.

Just now, BritManToo said:

Their faith was not any teachers business, and certainly not mine.

Which is the way it should be and precisely why the dismissal of this teacher is entirely reasonable.

 

 

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But entirely predictable.

In a UK school, a teachers place is to read from the textbook (provided by the school) in front of them.

No personal opinions on anything, no talk of any kind about sexuality, religion or politics ever.

It's been that way from at least the 1990s.

If they teach about the society and social study, of course they can state Uk is a Christian founded country. ? Or religion for that sake. 

 

But if a teacher start sharing his personal thoughts about earth is flat or not, Covid not real, then 

 

 

Silly teacher, does she not know that Britain is a Moslem country now!

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

If they teach about the society and social study, of course they can state Uk is a Christian founded country. ? Or religion for that sake. 

 

But if a teacher start sharing his personal thoughts about earth is flat or not, Covid not real, then 

You can't be sacked for reading from the provided textbooks.

It's as easy as that!

I have the antidote for all the UK's problem's and atomized it.

Sorry to say, but the UK has itself to blame for these problems. The decisions are handed down by a small unrepresentative minority who control school boards & trusts, municipal  and regional councils. Good people do not want to take on these responsibilities because they are harassed by rude, aggressive and unappreciative constituents . Taking public office or working for a pittance in these roles just isn't worth it. As a result, people with an agenda who are aligned with supportive political groups take over the positions and force their views on others.  Instead of complaining, the people who are upset should run for these  positions or actively support those who  will act differently. If  people can't even be bothered to vote, this is what they get.