What do you miss about western women that you find difficult to get from a Thai woman?

[MaeJoMTB]

10 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

I think most of them men who slag off Western women are just bitter because they stopped being able to get the attractive, fit-bodied ones back in their 30s.

It's a bit convenient to suddenly declare Western women persona non grata just because you discover youth and firmness can be had in Thailand for a modest stipend isn't it?

 

There's a lot to be said for 'youth and firmness'.

[MaeJoMTB]

4 hours ago, Csaw said:

Wow! Thanks for this! Like really...thank you! I thought it was only the ones i've been with!

Actually, that was one of the reasons i hit the eject button on a previous relationship. She was feminine yes, but emotionally cold...distant. I took it personally. Started noticing the same trait in the next one...and the one after that. To me, that the complete opposite of how a woman is supposed to be. I thought all, healthy, women were biologically wired to be intimate...touchy feely...wanting to be held...kissed. That was my experience with women from different backgrounds, before LOS. If she was angry with me and we were sleeping together, all i would have to do is put my arm around her waist and pull her in and suddenly, all the negative feelings would just melt away. This, and anything as such, seems to have zero effect on Thai women.

 

Is this all Thai woman, or is it a trait of women from a certain region?

 

No, you're just aiming your kisses at the wrong lips.

[MaeJoMTB]

7 hours ago, oldhippy said:

What do English women - in your humble opinion - think about you? Clooney look-a-like?

If they're paying for my meals and drinks, I don't care.

[MaeJoMTB]

8 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

Rubbish!

I was back in London last year - smoking hot, well-dressed, charming and beautiful women absolutely everywhere.

Restaurants, bars, cafes, clubs, West End, on the tube, on the high street, driving......everywhere.

 

I thought the same when I was in London last year, but none of them were English.

Back in Plymouth plenty of English women, mainly landwhales.

[JLCrab]

Blond pubic hair.

[amvet]

8 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

What proportion of those in the top 6 countries are men I wonder?

Less than half because they came to Thailand.

[Wake Up]

The best sex in my life in Thailand. As long as I pay the bills Thai girl takes care of me and is 25 years younger than me. Money is part of every relationship in the world and it works out well for the man in Thailand. 

 

No sex after kids in USA. No sex with any USA women much younger than me. Lawyers and taking of earned assets as money works against the man in USA relationships. I can’t think of anything I miss about western women and have zero desire to have one as a companion. 

 

I do miss seeing my adult kids regularly and eating with them and my two hunting dogs. Given the choice of companionship (not sex) with a western women or a good hunting dog ——the dog wins every time. 

 

Peace 

[theguyfromanotherforum]

6 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

The best sex in my life in Thailand. As long as I pay the bills Thai girl takes care of me and is 25 years younger than me. Money is part of every relationship in the world and it works out well for the man in Thailand. 

 

No sex after kids in USA. No sex with any USA women much younger than me. Lawyers and taking of earned assets as money works against the man in USA relationships. I can’t think of anything I miss about western women and have zero desire to have one as a companion. 

 

I do miss seeing my adult kids regularly and eating with them and my two hunting dogs. Given the choice of companionship (not sex) with a western women or a good hunting dog ——the dog wins every time. 

 

Peace 

 

But you do seem to love US dollars which can buy you sex here.

 

Got nothin' better to do, so I just thought I'd point out another hypothetical post.

 

 

[Wake Up]

Can’t wait to get back to the USA and live in an over age 55 community and have sex with 60 year old tit saggers with false teeth.  LMAO 

 

Nope think I will stay in BKk and sleep with 25 year old women and die happy.

 

Do I think Thai women or USA women love me - been there in the traditional love game for 30 years and done that. At this age I don’t care as love with women is not an exact science but sex and freedom keep me young and happy   and BKK is wonderful place to live. To each his own. 

 

Peace 

Edited October 8, 2017 by Wake Up

[Wake Up]

5 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

But you do seem to love US dollars which can buy you sex here.

 

Got nothin' better to do, so I just thought I'd point out another hypothetical post.

 

 

Absolutely true I love my USA dollars but over half were taken by an expensive lawyer for my ex wife. Could never lose that much in Thailand with 100 women or 100 hunting dogs. 

Edited October 8, 2017 by Wake Up

[Pdaz]

9 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

Rubbish!

I was back in London last year - smoking hot, well-dressed, charming and beautiful women absolutely everywhere.

Restaurants, bars, cafes, clubs, West End, on the tube, on the high street, driving......everywhere.

 

I doubt any of the men who bitch about fat Western women are anything special to look at themselves.

 

That's because all the women you saw were Latvian, Lithuanian, French, Polish, Italian, Spanish and a host of other imports.  To really appreciate the delicious form of the modern day British wonan you need to visit TK Max or Primart somewhere in Wales or the North. The only slim ones have a drug problem. The rest are too busy stuffing their faces with fast food and cheap booze. Fact is when 15-16 year old girls are already obese and pushing a pram there isn't much hope left.

Of course you may be a chubby chaser and miss the fuller figures ?

 

Edited October 8, 2017 by Pdaz

[Pilotman]

2 hours ago, kenk24 said:

Well said - I am still, after many years here, excited to see things through the Thai perspective and learn their ways of looking at things - what people here so often mock as Thai logic, can be a quite fascinating way to view and proceed through life... but I have not come to Thailand because it is cost effective, I chose to live here because I am totally fascinated by the people, the culture and the language. And living the last 15 years in a small farming village has been immersion.  

I took my mother in law outside one night to watch the ISS go by.  I told her it was in orbit and not an aircraft and explained what that meant. .  She smiled at me indulgently and went inside.  She clearly thought I was demented and said so to my wife. Still makes us all laugh when we recall that.  She now gets it and I'm back in her good books as relatively sane.  

[Orton Rd]

On 10/6/2017 at 11:09 PM, elliss said:

 Social conversation,  historical , politics  , economic religion  is non existent , with a Thai  partner.

    What do we have in common, ?  apart from a marriage visa .

Very true and a common reaction from the response. I often wonder what couples have in common at all especially when the foreign husband has no interest or knowledge of Thai culture, despite often claiming to 'love it' The vast majority of Thai woman have little interest in anything outside of food, family and shopping and no matter how good looking they are it becomes boring after a few years. Most seem incapable of holding a logical discussion about anything, and are prone to sinking into silence or an emotional outburst if you try to involve them in one, just don't think too much about anything! They are shallow, not curious about world affairs and ignorant about history, geography and almost anything outside of Thailand. 

[theguyfromanotherforum]

18 minutes ago, Pdaz said:

The rest are too busy stuffing their faces with fast food and cheap booze.

 

 

 

Hmmm.... 10,461 entries discussing Alcohol on Thai Visa.

 

Who has the problem?

 

 

[Pilotman]

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Very true and a common reaction from the response. I often wonder what couples have in common at all especially when the foreign husband has no interest or knowledge of Thai culture, despite often claiming to 'love it' The vast majority of Thai woman have little interest in anything outside of food, family and shopping and no matter how good looking they are it becomes boring after a few years. Most seem incapable of holding a logical discussion about anything, and are prone to sinking into silence or an emotional outburst if you try to involve them in one, just don't think too much about anything! They are shallow, not curious about world affairs and ignorant about history, geography and almost anything outside of Thailand. 

Dare I say that I think you may be missing the point and perhaps not seeing the wonder as well as the challenge of a Thai western marriage.  Thais are brought up to survive in a world that for them may have nothing but hard  work, pain, lack of food, poor health care and many more things that can kill them than can make their life happy.  This is their upbringing, and that of all their family for generations.  Its a world vierw and a m ind set that is hard to understand for some people and sometimes hard to deal with, judging by some posts here.    Why should they have a wider perspective that Western education and upbringing can give when all they want is stability and security and a longer life than seems likely. Often these are very deep seated  traits that even they do not recognise.  A basic grounding or interest in history, politics, geography, don't put food on the table, or provide a house or give you health care.  That's why many of the girls that meet westerners, usually in bars,  are as they often are.  Not for any other reason but that they have a window of opportunity, usually into their early 30s, to change things and provide for a future that may see them reach old age.   My wife was a factory supervisor when we met, so not at all uneducated, but despite all that she has now, she still has that survival gene/instinct in her make up.  It now translates into caring for me and our daughter in a very Thai way, almost dismissing the advantages that we clearly have now.  I see it, I recognise it and I compensate for it.  I also value it as part of my life that I would not have seen or had.    

[AboutThaim]

18 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Dunno, after having a real cow of a first uk wife and a real cow of a thai wife - they seem pretty much the same to me

So you are just a stud bull? 555

[Peterw42]

I miss how they ask every every hour or so, are you hungry ? Are you horny?

Hang on, Thats not western girls.

 

[Pilotman]

5 hours ago, Csaw said:

Wow! Thanks for this! Like really...thank you! I thought it was only the ones i've been with!

Actually, that was one of the reasons i hit the eject button on a previous relationship. She was feminine yes, but emotionally cold...distant. I took it personally. Started noticing the same trait in the next one...and the one after that. To me, that the complete opposite of how a woman is supposed to be. I thought all, healthy, women were biologically wired to be intimate...touchy feely...wanting to be held...kissed. That was my experience with women from different backgrounds, before LOS. If she was angry with me and we were sleeping together, all i would have to do is put my arm around her waist and pull her in and suddenly, all the negative feelings would just melt away. This, and anything as such, seems to have zero effect on Thai women.

 

Is this all Thai woman, or is it a trait of women from a certain region?

 This view is rather short sighted.  There are many cultures in the world where kissing is unknown, avoided, or just  seen as weird.  In poor cultures , its a way of transmitting  all many of nasty germs and is too intimate for even married couples, so they avoid it,   I suggest that you look beyond the obvious. I lot of what we term normal intimate behaviours have been foisted on other cultures by western influence and is not necessarily innate behaviour.   

[owl sees all]

26 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

This view is rather short sighted.  There are many cultures in the world where kissing is unknown, avoided, or just  seen as weird.  In poor cultures , its a way of transmitting  all many of nasty germs and is too intimate for even married couples, so they avoid it,   I suggest that you look beyond the obvious. I lot of what we term normal intimate behaviours have been foisted on other cultures by western influence and is not necessarily innate behaviour.

'What do you get when you kiss a gal? You get enough germs to catch pneumonia!'

 

I thought my Thai wife was saying Brad Pitt every time we were close. I liked it. Recognition at last!! I asked our daughter Milly; "how do you feel about having a Brad Pitt look-a-like as a dad?" "Mum not call you Brad Pitt; she call you fat pig."

 

Can't recall my western wife being that droll.

Edited October 8, 2017 by owl sees all

[bazza73]

6 hours ago, Csaw said:

She trims your toe nails really? A Thai woman? 

The western ones used to pin me down to do it because i was too lazy but the Thai variety don't seem too inclined to work with feet.

Really. And a lot of other things I can't mention on a family forum.

[owl sees all]

28 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Dare I say that I think you may be missing the point and perhaps not seeing the wonder as well as the challenge of a Thai western marriage.  Thais are brought up to survive in a world that for them may have nothing but hard  work, pain, lack of food, poor health care and many more things that can kill them than can make their life happy.  This is their upbringing, and that of all their family for generations.  Its a world vierw and a m ind set that is hard to understand for some people and sometimes hard to deal with, judging by some posts here.    Why should they have a wider perspective that Western education and upbringing can give when all they want is stability and security and a longer life than seems likely. Often these are very deep seated  traits that even they do not recognise.  A basic grounding or interest in history, politics, geography, don't put food on the table, or provide a house or give you health care.  That's why many of the girls that meet westerners, usually in bars,  are as they often are.  Not for any other reason but that they have a window of opportunity, usually into their early 30s, to change things and provide for a future that may see them reach old age.   My wife was a factory supervisor when we met, so not at all uneducated, but despite all that she has now, she still has that survival gene/instinct in her make up.  It now translates into caring for me and our daughter in a very Thai way, almost dismissing the advantages that we clearly have now.  I see it, I recognise it and I compensate for it.  I also value it as part of my life that I would not have seen or had. 

Great post. Interesting contribution, Good read but ever heard of paragraphs?

[Pdaz]

46 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

Hmmm.... 10,461 entries discussing Alcohol on Thai Visa.

 

Who has the problem?

 

 

Most of those entries are just complaints about the price 

[ThaiItAgain]

On 10/6/2017 at 11:09 PM, elliss said:

 Social conversation,  historical , politics  , economic religion  is non existent , with a Thai  partner.

    What do we have in common, ?  apart from a marriage visa .

A good summary of topics that in the main are often missing in a Thai relationship. Yep! i can buy those points you raise, however,  are you suggesting that you didn't know that these facts about this lady  before you entered into your marriage? what do you have in common? with her, sounds like not too much; but with other fa-rang guys a lot I would suspect

[StevieAus]

Nothing whatsoever 

[bazza73]

10 hours ago, Thai Ron said:

"Sits on their backside"?? Cooking. cleaning, washing, ironing is a life of ease in your mind, is it?

 In my case, the wife was a lousy cook who spent most of her day reading the newspapers. There are things called household appliances which reduce those tasks to a couple of hours a day. Meantime, I was working 60 - 70 hours a week to build the finances. She contributed nothing. Got half when I had had enough of her insane jealousy, avoidance of sex and being taken for granted. Was never unfaithful to her, which in hindsight was stupid.

My defacto partner was independently minded, we shared all cooking, cleaning, washing and ironing. I probably did 80% of the cooking. She was broke when I met her, again walked away with half.

So when you come onto this thread with moronic generalisations, do try to remember there are exceptions.

That's what I don't miss at all. Thai women are grateful to have a good provider. Western women regard a good provider as an entitlement.

 

[ThaiItAgain]

1 minute ago, StevieAus said:

Nothing whatsoever 

so what to do about such a situation?  constructively, what has been learnt from such a sad mistake.  i guess do more intellectual fact finding before  one  lets the heart make decisions about ones long term future

[maoro2013]

14 hours ago, KiChakayan said:

Frankly sir, I don't get the subtleties of "femonists" and "feimine"? Would be nice if everyone used a vocabulary to people, like myself, for whom english is the third language. 

I get a bit pissed off when these word processing apps change what is actually said. Very good proof reading is needed but even I don't do it enough. 

My reference was to the difference between feminine and feminist. Major difference I think.

 

Sorry for the poor original post.

[AboutThaim]

18 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

I am happy to miss them acting like men.

Yeah, too many BSBs.  Blokes Sans Balls.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

The vast majority of Thai woman have little interest in anything outside of food, family and shopping and no matter how good looking they are it becomes boring after a few years

 

That's ideal if you want something that you can play with, then put on the metaphorical shelf when you're done playing.

 

Not that it forms the basis of a good relationship, but let's face it.  That takes a lot of effort, and most guys didn't move to Thailand to cultivate meaningful relationships.

 

Reminds me of that old chestnut:  The ideal woman?  One that would morph into a 6 pack, a TV and 2 buddies right after the sex.

 

[transam]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's ideal if you want something that you can play with, then put on the metaphorical shelf when you're done playing.

 

Not that it forms the basis of a good relationship, but let's face it.  That takes a lot of effort, and most guys didn't move to Thailand to cultivate meaningful relationships.

 

Reminds me of that old chestnut:  The ideal woman?  One that would morph into a 6 pack, a TV and 2 buddies right after the sex.

 

Or.......