Is the closure of your favorite bar or restaurant imminent?

[Oldie]

8 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

As i said yesterday it's coming soon

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2020/12/28/chonburi-announces-22-new-local-cases-of-covid-19-17-in-banglamung/

 

A lockdown now will be the last nail in the coffin for most of the Pattaya entertainment venues

I think they might lose more if they are open and have no customers because the costs are higher. But here in Central Pattaya I see some new bars opening even now - to be afterwards without customers too. But somehow they don't seem to care. The owners or managers sit there alone with some staff and all are looking happy. 

[Nout]

On 12/27/2020 at 3:43 PM, Nout said:

Covid has changed the pertinence of this thread. Before covid my answer would generally have been 'no' but since covid my answer is more likely to be 'yes'. Its sad in some ways but there are/were too many bars here in Pattaya offering nothing distinctive or original but the tired cliche of fizzy bottled beer, tiresome sport TV and USA chart music. We can lose 80% of most bars and that is what is happening. No great loss. Look at the growth of Hi So restaurants in Cozy Beach. Now that's interesting.

 

Add to that the opening of several new BJ bars around SB on soi Boomerang.

[Nout]

I guess the nearest thing to a favorite that closed was the Pattaya Beer Garden  A victim of Covid and one of the best Scooters, SB has limited its hours...Comfort...but for other reasons...For me. Comfort is the worst loss

[TaaSaparot]

You do wonder what happens on Jan. 1st. if all these stories about licenses needing renewed is true.

[YAHF]

Pattaya's soi 11 bars still open & very popular as well as low prices ( opposite New Metro )

Hungry Hippo eatery in soi Buakhow still doing well, keep it it up Rob and prices down.

[scubascuba3]

8 hours ago, Nout said:

Add to that the opening of several new BJ bars around SB on soi Boomerang.

which new BJ bar would you recommend? 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, YAHF said:

Pattaya's soi 11 bars still open & very popular as well as low prices ( opposite New Metro )

Hungry Hippo eatery in soi Buakhow still doing well, keep it it up Rob and prices down.

Yes prices need to be down or people go elsewhere. It gets irritating him constantly changing the prices

[SidJames]

10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yes prices need to be down or people go elsewhere. It gets irritating him constantly changing the prices

On my first trip to Rio all the menus were chalk as the prices often changed from afternoon to evening as inflation was so rampant

[Leaver]

14 hours ago, TaaSaparot said:

You do wonder what happens on Jan. 1st. if all these stories about licenses needing renewed is true.

Isn't the licence to sell alcohol only something like 2000 baht?  

[kingofthemountain]

3 hours ago, Leaver said:

Isn't the licence to sell alcohol only something like 2000 baht?  

How many 50 bths beers a bar needs to sell only to paid that with the profit margins done on it ?

Then there are all the others costs. the first one being the rent

 

i bet most of the bars owners actually still open are waiting the end

of their actual rent (Wich could end for a lot with the end of this year)

before to eventually give up

[Seeall]

Just now, kingofthemountain said:

How many 50 bths beers a bar needs to sell only to paid that with the profit margins done on it ?

Then there are all the others costs. the first one being the rent

 

i bet most of the bars owners actually still open are waiting the end

of their actual rent (Wich could end for a lot with the end of this year)

before to eventually give up

think ita pittance buut hoping I guess...

[treetops]

5 hours ago, SidJames said:

On my first trip to Rio all the menus were chalk as the prices often changed from afternoon to evening as inflation was so rampant

 

That's handy to know, thanks.  ????

[Nout]

18 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

which new BJ bar would you recommend? 

Up to you!

[jacko45k]

6 hours ago, Nout said:

Up to you!

That one isn't on Soi Boomerang. 

[petermik]

8 hours ago, Nout said:

Up to you!

 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

That one isn't on Soi Boomerang. 

It's round the corner in soi Muffin...????

[Rimmer]

Some troll post and replies removed

[polpott]

On 12/28/2020 at 3:54 PM, Nout said:

I guess the nearest thing to a favorite that closed was the Pattaya Beer Garden  A victim of Covid and one of the best Scooters, SB has limited its hours...Comfort...but for other reasons...For me. Comfort is the worst loss

Comfort? Harland Gob<deleted>e's place? No loss there, style over substance and a loud and drunken host. Glad to see the back of him.

[Nout]

11 hours ago, polpott said:

Comfort? Harland Gob<deleted>e's place? No loss there, style over substance and a loud and drunken host. Glad to see the back of him.

We differ. Right from its opening night the place was  full of energy, fun and foodies when other places were dull and empty. It made every other restaurant sit up and examine their policies,  menus and their atmosphere. Years of mediocre dry and dull dining was kicked in the teeth and restaurants were forced to up their game. There was always some noisy joy happening at the Comfort.  Please suggest to me an alternative.

 

[Leaver]

17 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

How many 50 bths beers a bar needs to sell only to paid that with the profit margins done on it ?

Then there are all the others costs. the first one being the rent

 

i bet most of the bars owners actually still open are waiting the end

of their actual rent (Wich could end for a lot with the end of this year)

before to eventually give up

I thought the liquor license was the Thai new year.  Anyway, I see your point.

 

Does anyone know what a bar buys a beer at, wholesale?

 

Say it's 30 baht, and sold at 50 baht, as you say.

 

They make 20 baht each beer, but there is rent, electric, salaries etc to pay.

 

Say they make 5 baht a beer, clear profit.

 

2000 baht / 5 baht = 400 beers need to be sold just to pay for the license.   

 

It would take many weeks for most of the bars to sell 400 beers.

 

I wonder how long many bar owners can continue to carry losses, by using their own money, before they have to walk away.   

[HashBrownHarry]

1 hour ago, Leaver said:

I thought the liquor license was the Thai new year.  Anyway, I see your point.

 

Does anyone know what a bar buys a beer at, wholesale?

 

Say it's 30 baht, and sold at 50 baht, as you say.

 

They make 20 baht each beer, but there is rent, electric, salaries etc to pay.

 

Say they make 5 baht a beer, clear profit.

 

2000 baht / 5 baht = 400 beers need to be sold just to pay for the license.   

 

It would take many weeks for most of the bars to sell 400 beers.

 

I wonder how long many bar owners can continue to carry losses, by using their own money, before they have to walk away.   

Your maths is flawed, these places make most of their profit of liquor not beer.

 

i bottle approx 30 singles @ 50-60 baht = 1800baht ( approx ) for a bottle of gut rot ( Sangsom etc ) bought at 300-350 baht = 500% mark up - not bad really, why care about the 5 baht per beer.

 

Plus rip of lady drinks or are you suggesting that's beer as well?

[Leaver]

4 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Your maths is flawed, these places make most of their profit of liquor not beer.

 

i bottle approx 30 singles @ 50-60 baht = 1800baht ( approx ) for a bottle of gut rot ( Sangsom etc ) bought at 300-350 baht = 500% mark up - not bad really, why care about the 5 baht per beer.

 

Plus rip of lady drinks or are you suggesting that's beer as well?

Maths not flawed.

 

Just used beer sales as the base example. 

 

Can do the same with spirits, bar fines, lady drinks, coffee etc. 

 

However, in my opinion, beer is the most popular alcoholic beverage in the bars here. 

 

Most spirt bottles are 750ml, and a nip is 30ml, so that 25 nips per bottle, but I am sure many bars cut a bottle with water.  There's also the mixer, usually coke, dry or soda to consider.      

[HashBrownHarry]

19 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Maths not flawed.

 

Just used beer sales as the base example. 

 

Can do the same with spirits, bar fines, lady drinks, coffee etc. 

 

However, in my opinion, beer is the most popular alcoholic beverage in the bars here. 

 

Most spirt bottles are 750ml, and a nip is 30ml, so that 25 nips per bottle, but I am sure many bars cut a bottle with water.  There's also the mixer, usually coke, dry or soda to consider.      

Are you suggesting bars 'water down' the hard stuff?

[Leaver]

40 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Are you suggesting bars 'water down' the hard stuff?

Of course not.  Pattaya bar owners are too ethical to do such a thing.  ????

 

Are you suggesting lady drinks have alcohol in them?  ????

 

Edited December 30, 2020 by Leaver

[HashBrownHarry]

5 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Of course not.  Pattaya bar owners are too ethical to do such a thing.  ????

 

Are you suggesting lady drinks have alcohol in them?  ????

 

Are you suggesting i like lady's?

[Leaver]

5 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Are you suggesting i like lady's?

No.  I'm suggesting you are trying to have the thread closed.

 

Why don't you just start your own thread about whether drinks are watered down or not?  

[HashBrownHarry]

11 minutes ago, Leaver said:

No.  I'm suggesting you are trying to have the thread closed.

 

Why don't you just start your own thread about whether drinks are watered down or not?  

it was you that said many places cut a bottle with water, not me - maybe you should start that thread?

[Leaver]

La Canteena for sale.

 

https://www.bahtsold.com/view/guesthouse-restaurant-south-pattaya-383751

 

Also, Scuba posted The Devonshire is for sale also, but for some reason his post was removed.

 

The Devonshire does a great breakfast.  I'll miss it.  

[onthedarkside]

A spelling troll post and several replies have been removed.

[rott]

5 hours ago, Leaver said:

Maths not flawed.

 

Just used beer sales as the base example. 

 

Can do the same with spirits, bar fines, lady drinks, coffee etc. 

 

However, in my opinion, beer is the most popular alcoholic beverage in the bars here. 

 

Most spirt bottles are 750ml, and a nip is 30ml, so that 25 nips per bottle, but I am sure many bars cut a bottle with water.  There's also the mixer, usually coke, dry or soda to consider.      

I always thought it was 25 ml. 

[Leaver]

On 12/28/2020 at 8:32 PM, Oldie said:

I think they might lose more if they are open and have no customers because the costs are higher. But here in Central Pattaya I see some new bars opening even now - to be afterwards without customers too. But somehow they don't seem to care. The owners or managers sit there alone with some staff and all are looking happy. 

 

For many, their bar is just an expensive hobby.