Phuket expat dies after being hit by ATV in the jungle

[rooster59]

Phuket expat dies after being hit by ATV in the jungle

By Eakkapop Thongtub

 

A French national died in Chalong after being hit by an ATV in the jungle on Jan 16. Photo: Provided by Gery Sugnaux

 

PHUKET: A French national has died after an American woman on an ATV tour lost control of her vehicle and hit the man and his motorcycle on Soi Klum Yang in Chalong earlier this week.

 

At around 4pm last Thursday (Jan 16), Lt Col Khanan Somrak of Chalong Police was notified that a foreign woman lost control of her ATV on a hillside track and hit another foreigner causing serious injuries to the latter.

 

Having arrived at the scene, police discover a red ATV and it's driver, a USA national Onome Alero Adeosun, 39. The woman was laying on the ground with her right arm and collarbone broken.

 

Full story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-expat-dies-after-being-hit-by-atv-in-the-jungle-74446.php

 

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[billd766]

That is completely different to the story in the BKK Post this morning.

[RotBenz8888]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

The woman was laying on the ground with her right arm and collarbone broken.

They brought an xray machine and a radiologist out to the scene, i take it?

Edited January 18, 2020 by RotBenz8888

[stevenl]

From the link " Lt Col Khanan said that police has not made any decision regarding what charges Ms Adeosun will face. ". and " Robert parked his scooter at the edge of a very wide track and was waiting for our arrival. Then a convoy of six to eight ATVs arrived and began U-turning to go to the parking area. Everything went on normally, until the appearance of the last vehicle which was a little late. The lady driving the ATV lost control of her vehicle and it struck Robert who was standing next to his scooter sending him some 5 metres down the track "

Why even consider charges for the American woman in stead of the operator of the ATV business?

[ChipButty]

Would the law apply if thats on private property?

[canuckamuck]

I wouldn't let tourists ride ATV's. I have had ATV's since I was a teen, nearly every time somebody tries one out for the first time they crash. It takes a long time to realize the limitations and the balance can shift violently. I imagine ATV accidents are quite common at these locations.

[Old Croc]

22 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

I wouldn't let tourists ride ATV's. I have had ATV's since I was a teen, nearly every time somebody tries one out for the first time they crash. It takes a long time to realize the limitations and the balance can shift violently. I imagine ATV accidents are quite common at these locations.

Very common:

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1081022-chinese-tourists-injured-in-chalong-atv-accident/

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/saudi-arabian-tourist-dies-from-injuries-in-phuket-atv-plunge-68508.php

 

https://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/ShowTopic-g297930-i9925-k4215681-Beware_ATV_Quad_Bike_Dangers-Patong_Kathu_Phuket.html

[steven100]

Tourists think they can just jump on an ATV and off they go into the bush, up and down hills and mounds.

They are not toys and can topple in an instant if your going too fast or on a steep incline. They can roll over on top of you.

These folks don't realize how dangerous they can be unless care is taken. 

[RichardColeman]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why even consider charges for the American woman in stead of the operator of the ATV business?

Isn't that a bit like laying the blame for killing someone on the roads at the feet of the bike and car hire company ? YOU hire it, YOU are responsible for it.

Edited January 19, 2020 by RichardColeman

[LeungKen]

1 off topic post removed.

[steven100]

and the rider obviously has to bear responsibility for crashing into someone.

[Sunmaster]

15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

They brought an xray machine and a radiologist out to the scene, i take it?

You don't have to be a genius or have x-ray vision to understand that you have a broken bone. Duh

[gjoo888]

15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

They brought an xray machine and a radiologist out to the scene, i take it?

I broke my leg once, and didn't need an x-ray to know that my leg was broken. The bone sticking out through my skin gave me a pretty good idea that it was broken.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, stevenl said:

Why even consider charges for the American woman in stead of the operator of the ATV business?

She was the rider so ultimately she caused the accident and therefore is guilty.. the operator may face consequences if not licenced or insured etc.

[sixlegs]

5 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Would the law apply if thats on private property?

Of course it would. Protection of other's health an life and the obligation for operating dangerous machinery with common sense has priority over protection of people's right on their private property.

 

Well, at least in countries where rule of law is somewhat enforced and you are not in a country where people can shot you for trespassing. 

[LivinginKata]

29 minutes ago, saminoz said:

<snip>

The way TV pushed the headline was almost as if she murdered the poor guy deliberately!

Terrible editing from TV but, hey, whatever sells those ads, right?

 

It's not TVs headline. It's the news 'paper' headline. TV just cut and paste. Complain to Phuket News or Thaiger editors.  And sure the headline is always for 'bait clicks'

[stouricks]

What's an ATV?

[JAFO]

What I do not understand, why is this always about blaming someone or attempting to assign blame then sue them. From the report this was nothing more than a very unfortunate accident. The gal will have to live with this the rest of her life. If they deem it an accident then that is the life of attempting extreme type activities in a foreign country. We all know the risks...or should. 

 

 

[DoktorC]

53 minutes ago, iko said:

They should though. With all the help they gave them during the war with the Brits.

Noooo, we repaid that debt many times over in WW1 and WW2.

[ratcatcher]

17 minutes ago, stouricks said:

What's an ATV?

All Terrain Vehicle.

[saminoz]

Just now, yogi100 said:

I'm not being funny but what's an ATV.

 

An Armoured Tourist Vehicle?

You were right.

You were not funny at all.

[Salerno]

 

1 minute ago, yogi100 said:

I'm not being funny but what's an ATV.

 

An Armoured Tourist Vehicle?

 

21 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

All Terrain Vehicle.

 

[billd766]

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

From the link " Lt Col Khanan said that police has not made any decision regarding what charges Ms Adeosun will face. ". and " Robert parked his scooter at the edge of a very wide track and was waiting for our arrival. Then a convoy of six to eight ATVs arrived and began U-turning to go to the parking area. Everything went on normally, until the appearance of the last vehicle which was a little late. The lady driving the ATV lost control of her vehicle and it struck Robert who was standing next to his scooter sending him some 5 metres down the track "

Why even consider charges for the American woman in stead of the operator of the ATV business?

Probably because the owner of the business was not riding the ATV. Whilst he has broken several laws, nobody knows if the American lady had any ATV experience.

[Rimmer]

Off topic, troll amd grammar police posts removed also replies

[peterb17]

53 minutes ago, stouricks said:

What's an ATV?

Actually was thinking the same thing - maybe I’m just too ancient and old fashioned and sometimes find all the abbreviations a bit tricky -  just having a small glass of B&B on ice - that’s an abbreviation I know well.

Edited January 19, 2020 by peterb17
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[SunsetT]

TIT......It can happen anywhere, anytime!

[chilli42]

4 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

The company have a responsibility to operate a safe business that protects their customers and the public. At a minimum that should include route selection, vehicle condition checks, personal protective equipment and training and supervision of the riders, who are on holiday, relaxed and inexperienced.

 

But this is Thailand, where the only important thing is to get their money, and where liability and responsibility can be bought off with a few baht.

I am going to take a guess here.  The tour operators guide was driving too fast.  The American women was doing her best to keep up to the group.  She ended up going too fast for her skill level.  The tour guide is responsible for setting the right pace for the skills level of the group.  I guess the motivation to get back for his bowl of noodles drove the guide to behave this way.

[Assurancetourix]

19 hours ago, rooster59 said:

A French national has died after an American woman on an ATV tour lost control of her vehicle and hit the man and his motorcycle on Soi Klum Yang in Chalong earlier this week.

Quads or ATV do not exist in Thai law; they cannot be registered and therefore cannot be insured either.
the only place where you can use a quad is on private land;
however, for me, this soi ( a little street with no name ), whatever it is, is in the public domain, so this or these quads should not be driven on it.

the driver AND the owner of the machine will most certainly be prosecuted in criminal and civil proceedings.

[Assurancetourix]

1 hour ago, stouricks said:

What's an ATV?

A Quad 

[beechbum]

7 hours ago, stevenl said:

From the link " Lt Col Khanan said that police has not made any decision regarding what charges Ms Adeosun will face. ". and " Robert parked his scooter at the edge of a very wide track and was waiting for our arrival. Then a convoy of six to eight ATVs arrived and began U-turning to go to the parking area. Everything went on normally, until the appearance of the last vehicle which was a little late. The lady driving the ATV lost control of her vehicle and it struck Robert who was standing next to his scooter sending him some 5 metres down the track "

Why even consider charges for the American woman in stead of the operator of the ATV business?

I imagine she signed the standard form before the ride and put all the blame on herself.