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21 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Anyone over weight needs to start a keto,south beach type diet immediately. 

Medics have been rolling patients onto their stomachs as a last gasp tactic to keep ventilated virus victims alive.

That beer gut is gonna kill you quicker than you think.

It's lack of nutrients like zinc, D

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4 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

It's lack of nutrients like zinc, D

Just one of mine and others thoughts.

I apologize if you’re obese.

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I've been following this guy for a few years now, and I trust him.

 

I think 2020 is definitely going to be the year of 'new studies'.

 

I am hoping we get enough C and D from our sunny climate, but I take R-alpha lipoic acid (R-ALA Supplement) daily to up my antioxidants and for other reasons. Fingers crossed.

 

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It's a lot of things that mainly stem from an unbalanced immune response.  If your body does not have the required antibodies within a few days then infection spreads to the lungs and other major organs.  The biggest risk factors are age, gender, and obesity (which is also strongly linked to other co-morbidities).

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By Kate Kelland

LONDON (Reuters) - Men's blood has higher levels than women's of a key enzyme used by the new coronavirus to infect cells, the results of a big European study showed on Monday -- a finding which may help explain why men are more vulnerable to infection with COVID-19.

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) is found in the heart, kidneys and other organs. In COVID-19, the respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus, it is thought to play a role in how the infection progresses into the lungs.

The study, published in the European Heart Journal, also found that widely-prescribed drugs called ACE inhibitors or angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) did not lead to higher ACE2 concentrations and should therefore not increase the COVID-19 risk for people taking them.

ACE inhibitors and ARBs are widely prescribed to patients with congestive heart failure, diabetes or kidney disease. The drugs account for billions of dollars in prescription sales worldwide.

"Our findings do not support the discontinuation of these drugs in COVID-19 patients," said Adriaan Voors, a professor of cardiology at the University Medical Center (UMC) Groningen in The Netherlands, who co-led the study.

The COVID-19 pandemic has infected more than 4 million people worldwide and killed almost 277,000, according to a Reuters tally. Death and infection tolls point to men being more likely than women to contract the disease and to suffer severe or critical complications if they do.

Analysing thousands of men and women, Voors' team measured ACE2 concentrations in blood samples taken from more than 3,500 heart failure patients from 11 European countries.

The study had started before the coronavirus pandemic, the researchers said, and so did not include patients with COVID-19.

But when other research began to point to ACE2 as key to the way the new coronavirus gets into cells, Voors and his team saw important overlaps with their study.

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15 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

It's a lot of things that mainly stem from an unbalanced immune response.  If your body does not have the required antibodies within a few days then infection spreads to the lungs and other major organs.  The biggest risk factors are age, gender, and obesity (which is also strongly linked to other co-morbidities).

Yet other studies show people that are overweight live longer.

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3 hours ago, twocatsmac said:

That beer gut is gonna kill you quicker than you think.

Beer doesnt contain many calories. Bit of a myth. The gut comes from junk food. It is just common for drinkers to eat more junk food as tje two go together.

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2 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Beer doesnt contain many calories. Bit of a myth. The gut comes from junk food. It is just common for drinkers to eat more junk food as tje two go together.

Gut comes from too many calories, doesn't matter where they come from. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Kennycrossfit said:

Gut comes from too many calories, doesn't matter where they come from. 

This is true but a muffin or donut has far more calories than a beer.

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35 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Happy to challenge you to any fitness test.

Good idea, let your wife be the judge

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8 minutes ago, Puccini said:

I find it difficult to discuss a post that requires me and those reading my reply to watch and listen to a video, even more so when the narrator refers to "new findings, "new research", etc without givings links to the sources. This is highly unprofessional.

 

Everything he talks about has been published in scientific papers, some of them quite recently, and there is nothing wrong for him or anybody else to explain some of the research findings in a YouTube clip in simpler words than those used in scientific publications but to give the video credibility, the sources must be cited.

 

From the video's narration:

…there’s been some interesting findings…

…it’s been thought that…

…There’s been some new research on this topic…

 

 

 

all theories

not proven yet

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40 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Yet other studies show people that are overweight live longer.

But not obese, there's a sweet spot. Anyway, one always needs to be careful with these correlations, correlation is not causation. They don't know why slightly overweight people live longer, it's just a statistical fact. Probably a mistake in the conventional BMI not accounting for age if you ask me. Anyone who's lived a few decades knows that you get heavier as you get older, having the same ideal BMI for a 20 year old and a fifty year old is ridiculous. Also putting a strain on your body trying to keep it below its natural healthy weight probably doesn't help. 

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28 minutes ago, Puccini said:

I find it difficult to discuss a post that requires me and those reading my reply to watch and listen to a video, even more so when the narrator refers to "new findings, "new research", etc without givings links to the sources. This is highly unprofessional.

 

Everything he talks about has been published in scientific papers, some of them quite recently, and there is nothing wrong for him or anybody else to explain some of the research findings in a YouTube clip in simpler words than those used in scientific publications but to give the video credibility, the sources must be cited.

 

From the video's narration:

…there’s been some interesting findings…

…it’s been thought that…

…There’s been some new research on this topic…

 

The doctor provides links to the information he cites in the description of the video, if you were to actually open it in YouTube.

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44 minutes ago, Kennycrossfit said:

Gut comes from too many calories, doesn't matter where they come from. 

Not at all actually. Fat intake is naturally regulated by the body and irrelevant. Sugar is the singular culprit of 'gut' as you put it, but the American (mainly) sugar lobby is extremely powerful and closely tied to the tobacco lobby - as tobacco is surprisingly the biggest single user of sugar, so nutritional studies are generally funded by them to put the blame on fat. Fructose (sugar is generally 50/50 fructose & glucose) can not be processed by the liver so ends up as fatty liver syndrome as well as storing the excess fructose as 'gut.' This is why no-one was fat until the west discovered the stuff in India. It's only been part of the human diet for a short while, apart from small amounts in fruit. Read 'The Case Against Sugar' by Gary Taubes: Sugar is not only the root cause of today’s diabetes and obesity epidemics (had these been infectious diseases, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would have long ago declared an emergency), but also, according to Taubes, is probably related to heart disease, hypertension, many common cancers and Alzheimer’s.

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In keeping with the general argument here on thaivisa that my source is bigger than your source:

Let's see what the almighty US govt has to say   https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/causes.html

 

"Obesity is a serious concern because it is associated with poorer mental health outcomes, reduced quality of life, and the leading causes of death in the U.S. and worldwide, including diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and some types of cancer."

 

hmmm.   sounds like no problem to me  

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12 minutes ago, rumak said:

Obesity is a serious concern because it is associated with poorer mental health outcomes, reduced quality of life,

So how come skinny people are often miserable?

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57 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

This is true but a muffin or donut has far more calories than a beer.

Yes, excess sugar in beer from the brewing process, i.e. maltose, is consumed by the yeast. Muffins and doughnuts should only be eaten by children, in small quantities..

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