Converting Vintage cars to Electric.

[Daffy D]

Thought this might be interesting:-

 

Vintage Voltage 2020-  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12232278/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

 

"A team of car designers, fabricators and mechanics restore classic cars to modern electric vehicles"

 

 About the show:
An ingenious team of mechanics at Electric Classic Cars restores, rebuilds and converts classics into electric dream cars for future generations. Gareth Jones (presenter/classic car expert) will bring the project in and Richard Morgan and team will take these classic to a new level before Gareth hands it back to the client. 

S01E01 Volkswagon Karmann Ghia 12 March 2020
The Karmann Ghia looks beautiful, but it never went as fast as it looked. Now Moggy and his team have been asked to convert it to electric power, but can they give it the performance it deserves without ruining the classic driving experience? 

S01E02 Chesil Speedster 19 March 2020
Boss of Chesil brings a classic Speedster to the workshop,but he might want a whole production run of electric Chesils. It’s a huge opportunity for Moggy, but the pressure’s on, there’ll be no second chances. 

S01E03 Fiat 500 26 March 2020
Moggy and his team struggle to find space inside a tiny Fiat 500 to turn it into a perfect electric city car. And if they do, will speedy owner Camilla be happy with the end result? 

S01E04 Lancia Fulvia 2 April 2020
A Lancia Fulvia arrives at the workshop, but can Moggy and his team convert this much loved classic, without ruining its famously agile handling? 

S01E05 Photon Electric Bike 9 April 2020
Moggy can’t ride a motorbike, but that doesn’t stop him thinking he can convert one to electric power. But have the team bitten off more than they can chew when a Royal Enfield donor bike arrives at the workshop? 

S01E06 Land Rover Defender 16 April 2020
The Land-Rover Defender means a whole new challenge for Moggy and his team. Can they find a way of giving the car maximum power, maximum range and keeping its 4 wheel drive capability? 

S01E07 MG Midget 23 April 2020
When a 60s MG Midget arrives at the workshop mid restoration, Moggy and his team quickly realise they have a huge job on their hands – and that’s before they even start on the electric conversion. 

S01E08 Ferrari 308 GTS 30 April 2020
A Ferrari that’s had it’s engine stolen provides the perfect opportunity for Moggy and his team to convert their second 308 GTS, but converting a classic Ferrari to electric power is always going to be contentious. 

S01E09 BMW 1602 7 May 2020
This baby BMW’s owner wants to take his basic Beemer and turn it into an electric homage to the wild 2002 Turbo, but the car is just a shell and Moggy and his team have their work cut out. 

S01E10 Porsche 914 14 May 2020
The mission this time is do what Porsche would have done if they were building electric sports cars in the 1970s. Moggy and his team pull out all the stops to create the ultimate electric Porsche 914.

[worgeordie]

Yes watched it, would love a Chesil speedster,would really

love the original Porsche even more,but price prohibitive

i think.

But these conversions ,are to me,really expensive cheapest

30,000 quid, up to  .............,is it worth it putting that much in

a car,might be cheaper to run,less to go wrong,but how long

do the batteries last,as they are expensive.

regards worgeordie

[Dumbastheycome]

I have a 1935 Austin Seven Butchers van back home begging  restoration.

Wonder what  they could do to that lil Baby ? lol

[Grumpy one]

13 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I have a 1935 Austin Seven Butchers van back home begging  restoration.

Wonder what  they could do to that lil Baby ? lol

Replace the rubber band that powered it 

[Justgrazing]

Old Mustang getting loaded with a 120kw electric motor and a old BMW Csl coupe fully electricked up ..

Moggie thou with front mounted batteries .. 

 

Can be done but some consideration be given to things like no more brake vacuum assistance or power steering from the engine .. These can be replaced with electric pumps but it all adds to cost .. 

Also to be considered is increase in weight as Batteries are quite heavy and to get any sort of range you need a lot of Batt' power and this can alter handling characteristics .. 

But all said and done there are quite a few specialists offering these con's now on just about everything if you got the dollars .. 

 

[Dumbastheycome]

10 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

Replace the rubber band that powered it 

I once  slipstreamed  a 37 behind a canopy truck and achieved 75 mph before chickening out when I remembered each wheel was held on  by  3  brass wheelnuts !

Rubber band  not needed. ????

[Daffy D]

I loved the Fiat 500 conversion.

Tiny car in pristine condition perfect for electric conversion as a town run around.

 

[VocalNeal]

^ Not electric but....a conversion of sorts

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by VocalNeal

[wombat]

On 5/31/2020 at 1:52 PM, Daffy D said:

A Ferrari that’s had it’s engine stolen

thats funny....nick the engine and leave the rest of the Ferrari...where would the engine end up?

[KKr]

A Vintage car without a Vintage motor and Vintage interior is just an
old Car Body with an electric motor.

[KKr]

23 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I have a 1935 Austin Seven Butchers van back home begging  restoration.

Wonder what  they could do to that lil Baby ? lol

in a van one has enough space for batteries, 
maybe put the engine in the back (and a crashbar under the hood) so you can stretch your legs ?

reminds me of the beetle of someone I knew that put a 911 engine in it and <deleted> all merc drivers off big time.

[VocalNeal]

52 minutes ago, KKr said:

reminds me of the beetle of someone I knew that put a 911 engine in it and <deleted> all merc drivers off big time.

For many many years Porsche had a "special" VW Transporter which would accompany cars on testing. 

[tifino]

this one would just 'have' to go 3 Phase!

 

[ncc1701d]

Excellent. Thanks 

[transam]

On 5/31/2020 at 3:53 PM, Dumbastheycome said:

I have a 1935 Austin Seven Butchers van back home begging  restoration.

Wonder what  they could do to that lil Baby ? lol

It needs a small block Chevy V8, there's nothing like a few sounds whilst out cruising....

[Dumbastheycome]

2 hours ago, transam said:

It needs a small block Chevy V8, there's nothing like a few sounds whilst out cruising....

Maybe  you don't  know the anatomy of the  Baby Austin?  With a  transverse spring suspension in the front, cantilever leaf springs in the rear  and cable   brakes  on all  corners  4 lawnmower engines connected together is  enough  fun as  is. With adjustable inflatable seat inserts, a forward opening windscreen  for  a rush  of  pre -polluted  air, a footprint  that allows  escape from  police intervention  by  driving  down  footpaths with ease, a miles  per  gallon detested  by  Arabs, can run on good whisky in an emergency ,

crossed  the  Himalayas , and eventually  spawned  the  Mini which in original form carried  the same  name which  featured in a block buster movie  (Italian Job)  then as a person whose  avatar is a  Fix Or Replace Daily yet advocates  for a Chevrolet power punt ?  Be seriously ashamed !????

 

[transam]

12 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Maybe  you don't  know the anatomy of the  Baby Austin?  With a  transverse spring suspension in the front, cantilever leaf springs in the rear  and cable   brakes  on all  corners  4 lawnmower engines connected together is  enough  fun as  is. With adjustable inflatable seat inserts, a forward opening windscreen  for  a rush  of  pre -polluted  air, a footprint  that allows  escape from  police intervention  by  driving  down  footpaths with ease, a miles  per  gallon detested  by  Arabs, can run on good whisky in an emergency ,

crossed  the  Himalayas , and eventually  spawned  the  Mini which in original form carried  the same  name which  featured in a block buster movie  (Italian Job)  then as a person whose  avatar is a  Fix Or Replace Daily yet advocates  for a Chevrolet power punt ?  Be seriously ashamed !????

 

I know a lot about your ride, but make no mistake, V8's have been put in most rides, even the original Mini's....????

 

[canthai55]

[Dumbastheycome]

1 hour ago, transam said:

I know a lot about your ride, but make no mistake, V8's have been put in most rides, even the original Mini's....????

 

lol. I think with the A7 a waste of an icon. But I did have a  Mk1 Escort fitted with an all alloy V8 for about  3 weeks. Sadly the wiring loom shorted out and the resulting fire wrote it off.  Fun while it lasted. lol

[mwbrown]

I did a full restoration and electric conversion of a 1973 Porsche 914, just like the one in the show and boy did that bring back memories!  The car is in storage in an airplane hangar back home, my efforts to bring it over here have been an exercise in frustration.  I even joined the Electric Vehicle Association of Thailand and have been to 3 of the yearly trade shows and I'm getting no help from them about how to bring it over.  Given the Thai government's newfound interest in electric cars you think they would make it easier...

 

[alacrity]

On 6/1/2020 at 3:23 PM, KKr said:

A Vintage car without a Vintage motor and Vintage interior is just an
old Car Body with an electric motor.

Probably gets entitlement to be re-characterized as a Pseud Mobile. Befitting the interested inverasic progeny.

[ratcatcher]

On 5/31/2020 at 3:53 PM, Dumbastheycome said:

I have a 1935 Austin Seven Butchers van back home begging  restoration.

Wonder what  they could do to that lil Baby ? lol

Have a butcher's at this one.               Does it meat with your approval?

[Dumbastheycome]

4 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

Have a butcher's at this one.               Does it meat with your approval?

These vehicles  were the British equivalent  to  Henry Ford's  Model T.

Good  fun  and a finger up the  nose of Lord Morris who eventually had to concede !

But a  friend  who had a  Morris 8 Racer also  had some fun.

Noise and  H.P  has never  impressed  me as  much as novelty.

Thats  why now I really like  electric  super  bikes.

[DaRoadrunner]

As a serious petrol head I ask myself the question.... Do I want an electric car?.... Nope. No soul, no character.

 

Give me a Ferrari and I might head to the nearest tunnel just to drive through it with the windows down and listen to that addictive sound.  Not quite the same in one of these glorified electric milk floats.

[PJPom]

Try this through the Airport Tunnel in Sydney at 2am with the top down and 90 mph showing...PRICELESS...

The idea of converting to electric is sensible and one day may be compulsory but I will be dead by then so I'll enjoy while I can.

[talahtnut]

A7 high compression head, SU conversion

Phoenix crank, heaps of noise at 40mph

through the village. Electric no way

Edited June 4, 2020 by talahtnut
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[ratcatcher]

11 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

A7 high compression head, SU conversion

Phoenix crank, heaps of noise at 40mph

through the village. Electric no way

Please tell us what ass end this in the picture. A7? what year '29?

Edited June 4, 2020 by ratcatcher

[DaRoadrunner]

The electric car is a dinosaur before it has even started. Hydrogen powered vehicles will kill it off, just as soon as they get the cost down.

 

Beauty of Hydrogen is the only bi-product of combustion is water vapour, so zero pollution. Manufacturing it is still not quite so clean, though they are working on it. At present Hydrogen is converted to electricity via a fuel cell which powers the electric motors. What I want is an internal combustion engine powered direct by Hydrogen so I get the character of the engine we love without the pollution.

 

Got any comment Elon Musk?

[canopy]

10 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

The electric car is a dinosaur before it has even started. Hydrogen powered vehicles will kill it off, just as soon as they get the cost down.

Cost always wins. If you are waiting for "just as soon as they get the cost down" it's not going to happen. Battery technology is getting much cheaper.

 

10 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Got any comment Elon Musk?

Yes he does, as do a lot of other people.

 

Elon Musk has dismissed hydrogen fuel cells as “mind-bogglingly stupid,” and that is not the only negative thing he has had to say about the technology. He has called them “fool cells”.

 

Even though Toyota is investing in hydrogen cells, their chief engineer in charge of Mirai admitted that plug-in cars make more sense: “Elon Musk is right – it’s better to charge the electric car directly by plugging in,”

 

For most people, the physics of fuel cell vehicles make little sense compared to battery-powered vehicles.

 

Maybe you should research a little deeper. Don't believe hype and weight cost very strongly.

 

[alacrity]

22 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

The electric car is a dinosaur before it has even started. Hydrogen powered vehicles will kill it off, just as soon as they get the cost down.

 

Beauty of Hydrogen is the only bi-product of combustion is water vapour, so zero pollution. Manufacturing it is still not quite so clean, though they are working on it. At present Hydrogen is converted to electricity via a fuel cell which powers the electric motors. What I want is an internal combustion engine powered direct by Hydrogen so I get the character of the engine we love without the pollution.

 

Got any comment Elon Musk?

Trouble is the technology isn't here/there yet to produce enough torque. Best option to date is to use hydrogen fuel cells to generate electricity which is stored and used to drive electric motors which derive torque through reduction gearing to the output shaft.

Modern political aims suppressing meaningful options in favor of PC mantra is the greatest impediment to the development of truly clean energy at this time.