Legal for cops to keep your car driving license ?

[thailandroadblock]

 hi pals, can you confirm if its legal for cops to keep your driving license ?

 

Because if they dont keep it, what is the reason to pay a ticket later when they didnt accept cash on the spot ?

 

And also is there an official price for driving without rear car plate ?

 

thanks pals

 

 

[ChipButty]

It used to be 500 Baht for no number plate mine got stolen once try getting a new one it takes forever 6 months for me

[2 is 1]

Nothing is "official" fine in Thailand! If you not do nothing else than drive car whitout rear plate, i dont know why need pay anything. Or max 500 bth. Maybe you run in to first honest cop in Thailand! I assume you had Thai license?

[tonray]

The law was recently changed. Police can no longer hold your license. But if you don't pay...then forget getting a license renewal down the line.

Edited August 22, 2020 by tonray

[Don Mega]

Just now, 2 is 1 said:

Nothing is "official" fine in Thailand! If you not do nothing else than drive car whitout rear plate, i dont know why need pay anything. Or max 500 bth. Maybe you run in to first honest cop in Thailand! I assume you had Thai license?

The speeding fines I get in the mail look fairly official and if ignored and not paid they won't let you renew the yearly road tax.

[2 is 1]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

The speeding fines I get in the mail look fairly official and if ignored and not paid they won't let you renew the yearly road tax.

Yes, from camera! Have haddle few of those.

[actonion]

17 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

The speeding fines I get in the mail look fairly official and if ignored and not paid they won't let you renew the yearly road tax.

My wife received speeding fine for 500b in the post ..  photos of  the front end of her car number plate, they said if  the fine  is  not paid you will no longer be able to tax your car, she has never paid the fine,  that was 3 years ago, and her car taxed every year..

[petedk]

25 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

It used to be 500 Baht for no number plate mine got stolen once try getting a new one it takes forever 6 months for me

Is it illegal not to have a rear number plate?

 

A car has been parked outside our house for about 6 or weeks with no rear number plate. The other day we had 5 or 6 police officers wandering around here checking on all the illegal parking. I was walking home and they started talking to me about the cars, whether they blocked our driveway or not. Anyway, we talked 4 or 5 minutes and then they noticed the car with no number plate. They laughed and said "It must have been in an accident". That was it.

 

Anyway, back to the original topic. I remember reading that the police are no longer allowed to keep your driving license.

Edited August 22, 2020 by petedk

[ezzra]

A joke.. someone received a photo in the mail showing him crossing a red light and demand for a 1,000 baht penalty so he sent a photo of a 1,000 baht note back...

[Don Mega]

11 minutes ago, actonion said:

My wife received speeding fine for 500b in the post ..  photos of  the front end of her car number plate, they said if  the fine  is  not paid you will no longer be able to tax your car, she has never paid the fine,  that was 3 years ago, and her car taxed every year..

Person I sold my previous car to never bothered to change the book into his name, he liked to speed and I just tossed the tickets in the bin...out of the blue he called me up asking if any speeding fines had arrived as he could not renew the road tax because unpaid fines.

[FritsSikkink]

37 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Nothing is "official" fine in Thailand! 

BS, read the traffic law.

[uncleP]

Normally you go to the police station pay whatever fine and get your license back

[ChipButty]

1 hour ago, 2 is 1 said:

Nothing is "official" fine in Thailand! If you not do nothing else than drive car whitout rear plate, i dont know why need pay anything. Or max 500 bth. Maybe you run in to first honest cop in Thailand! I assume you had Thai license?

Yes, and they kept it while I went to the police station to pay the fine, even though I had the receipt in the car from the transport dept to get the new number plate

[scoupeo]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

The speeding fines I get in the mail look fairly official and if ignored and not paid they won't let you renew the yearly road tax.

 

I just renewed without paying any fines, so it's just BS !

 

 

[Don Mega]

42 minutes ago, scoupeo said:

 

I just renewed without paying any fines, so it's just BS !

 

 

What province are you in ?

[northsouthdevide]

9 hours ago, actonion said:

My wife received speeding fine for 500b in the post ..  photos of  the front end of her car number plate, they said if  the fine  is  not paid you will no longer be able to tax your car, she has never paid the fine,  that was 3 years ago, and her car taxed every year..

Same here. 

I wanted to pay my speeding ticket, but my wife told me not to. 

Ive renewed my tax twice since. 

[holy cow cm]

2 hours ago, northsouthdevide said:

Same here. 

I wanted to pay my speeding ticket, but my wife told me not to. 

Ive renewed my tax twice since. 

Perhaps we have in a few cases posted systems that are not linked up to each other. 

[Bigz]

17 hours ago, northsouthdevide said:

Same here. 

I wanted to pay my speeding ticket, but my wife told me not to. 

Ive renewed my tax twice since. 

If I'm correct it only came to affect this year that you can't renew tax with outstanding fines. The older tickets from before the change probably don't count?

[transam]

On 8/22/2020 at 11:14 AM, scoupeo said:

 

I just renewed without paying any fines, so it's just BS !

 

 

Perhaps because the police have not used their PC to pass the information on.

 

Mrs.T went to tax her bike, "sorry cannot, go to police station and pay your fine", "what fine" ?

Went to police station, she had a parking fine where the notice had probably blown off the bike.

So, it's not BS....????

 

[transam]

9 minutes ago, Bigz said:

If I'm correct it only came to affect this year that you can't renew tax with outstanding fines. The older tickets from before the change probably don't count?

Nope...

[TheFishman1]

I lost my back plate on the car and I think it took like 2 1/2 weeks to get the new one they gave me a note if any policeman stopped me about it just show me the note anyways in Thailand nothings official TIT

[richard_smith237]

Over the past couple years my Wife and I have had a number of speeding fines and fines for ‘crossing the white line'

 

These do not get posted to our registered address (where my Wife’s ID is registered, where the car is registered and where my Wife’s DL is registered), instead the fines go to my Wife’s parents house in Bangkok, which is very odd. 

 

We haven’t paid any of the fines over the past two years, we have renewed tax without issue. However, my Wife has started getting ‘warning letter’ and threats of legal action if the fines are not paid. 

 

It seems the DLT are getting their act together with payment of fines, I fully expect to encounter difficulty renewing tax next year if any of the fines remain unpaid. 

 

Calling peoples actually experiences BS [scupeo] highlight ignorance of how things work in Thailand. Different provinces different transport offices etc and evolving technology and access to it. 

 

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On the Topic of ‘can the Police keep your licence’ - Legally the BiB can’t confiscate your license as of 20th September 2019.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1123795-friday-20th-thai-police-have-no-right-to-confiscate-your-licence-other-changes-by-december/

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30375505

 

 

 

[4MyEgo]

On 8/22/2020 at 12:16 PM, 2 is 1 said:

Maybe you run in to first honest cop in Thailand!

Or you could presume that the big boss is too lazy to go out to fill in the fines, as opposed to sitting in air conditioned comfort in his police office, and of course they have double fine books, one for themselves and one for the main government.

 

Ask me how I know this, well the wife has an uncle who is a cop and he has told us how his police station operates, honest cops in Thailand don't last long was another thing he told us, they end up converting or leaving, it's part of the system.

[Hayduke]

Legal for cops to keep your car driving license ?

 

As duly appointed and authorized law enforcement representatives of the democratically elected, completely honest, corruption-free government…they can do anything they want.

[jvs]

Does any one know which app to download to be able to show the police your license?

 

[peteralex]

On 8/22/2020 at 9:41 AM, ezzra said:

A joke.. someone received a photo in the mail showing him crossing a red light and demand for a 1,000 baht penalty so he sent a photo of a 1,000 baht note back...

It is not FUNNY or a JOKE to cross a red light. It bis IRRESPONSIBLE, DL ought to be renounced.

[stouricks]

On 8/22/2020 at 9:54 AM, FritsSikkink said:

BS, read the traffic law.

It is OK to read it, but is it enforced, that is the BS.

[stouricks]

2 hours ago, jvs said:

Does any one know which app to download to be able to show the police your license?

 

I had it six months ago, then it disappeared.

[FritsSikkink]

5 hours ago, stouricks said:

It is OK to read it, but is it enforced, that is the BS.

That works 2 ways, you either pay the correct fine through the police station, or you get involved in a bribe.

[Sujo]

5 hours ago, peteralex said:

It is not FUNNY or a JOKE to cross a red light. It bis IRRESPONSIBLE, DL ought to be renounced.

Its a joke, its funny. A joke does not mean he actually did it.