6 minutes ago, Thailand said:

The worry about such a bubble should be in Chin's court with people leaving Thailand and testing positive on arrival  in other countries. 

Same old story, don't test and you will record no infections. The only tests seem to be on those arriving from overseas in quarantine.

It seems it would be a way to validate Thailand's claims or no/low virus levels...if returning Chinese tourists were testing + for the virus. However, if the Thai claims were untrue, I'd doubt they would propose the bubble for exactly this reason and I'm sure the Chinese would independently validate such claims before entering into any such bubble.

I heard on the new yesterday that China is now vaccinating it’s people with their corona virus vaccine. However the vaccine hadn’t completed its clinical trials. Why wait ??? It’s just a little <deleted>  Pric k 

Special privileges for the country that created the epidemic that's rich.

5 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I didn't miss anything...pointed out the obvious, which you missed. Yes, Myanmar borders China...again the proposal is to open tourism from China not Myanmar.

Never said there was a travel bubble with Myanmar, now did I.  All i did was draw the connection with Covid cases and that was all I stated.  China is not Covid free, and neither is Thailand.  Are they possibly on the low end of virus cases, possibly, but so are many others.  Thailand is being short sighted in my opinion. 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The current mandatory quarantine will be replaced by coronavirus testing and a mobile tracking

well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ?

5 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:

Special privileges for the country that created the epidemic that's rich.

No...for a country that acted decisively to stamp out a novel zoonotic viral agent; and which is now virus free and where life is back to normal.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand Seeks Travel Bubble Pact With China to Spur Tourism

NO not the bubble one again !!!!!!!

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ?

That only covers the ones coming in legitimately, the ones without finances use the leaky border routes.

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Never said there was a travel bubble with Myanmar, now did I.  All i did was draw the connection with Covid cases and that was all I stated.  China is not Covid free, and neither is Thailand.  Are they possibly on the low end of virus cases, possibly, but so are many others.  Thailand is being short sighted in my opinion. 

So why did you mention it...you seemed to imply that infected Myanmarese would be allowed to enter Thailand. Maybe my reading of your posts was incorrect and if so I stand corrected. As with any viral disease, is there a single infected person anywhere in China...probably yes (and maybe a few) but if that's the standard for restarting tourism it's an unrealistic one.

1 hour ago, madmen said:

Yeah right if some random internet stranger says it's true them it must be.. And you got 5 likes for that, TV amaaaazing! 

JefR2 post #14...you could say the same about that post as well.  I wasn't going to reply to #14 as I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt.  Maybe the friend's wife works in a province that has not had a Wuhan China virus problem...how the he11 do I know!  What I do know is a lot more about serpentza...which leads me to believe he is telling the truth even if occasionally he may unintentionally be off the mark...but we are after-all only human.  

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Would you expect anything different. Suppressing human rights and media coverage is an art they have perfected, much like the former USSR.

One that Thailand is also beginning to tighten it's reign on.

13 minutes ago, steven100 said:

well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ?

Is the test proven to be 100% effective?

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Good god thailand is like an infatuated teenager when it comes to China. 

 

They are literally at the core of every economic thought they have. 

 

 

With a market of 1.5B consumers, 300+M of them middle class, China is at the core of most countries economic thoughts. 

3 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

"Thailand is in talks with China to establish a quarantine-free travel corridor by January to rescue its ailing tourism industry"  

 

This maybe a risky move!  I have been following a Vlogger called serpentza on Youtube for a few years who lived in China for 13 years and has a lot of contacts there and he is saying the Wuhan China virus is still a huge problem in China.  The CCP are not telling the truth about it!

A bitter South African who can't return home, did the teaching English gig in China and suffers from unrequited love for it, and has now washed-up in America repairing cars...maybe not the best place to get one's virus epidemiology updates. 

I think the government needs to get tourism off the brain for now. They need to get Thai's and foreigners with families back to Thailand first before looking at bubbles and remember bubbles will burst from lying countries.

Chinese however don't travel to any destination with unrest. So with street protests escalating, unless that's over by then, don't expect many or any to come.

Seems to me that contrary to what we all expected Thailand managed to get the genie back in the bottle when it comes to corona.

Inviting a load of chinese into the place is just going to smash the bottle. 

11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Chinese however don't travel to any destination with unrest. So with street protests escalating, unless that's over by then, don't expect many or any to come.

Hopefully the street protests will continue for a long time as they are entirely warranted. If that keeps the Chinese away, well and good.

46 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:

Is the test proven to be 100% effective?

agree .... provided they are carrying no virus then that's the objective here.

6 minutes ago, Spock said:

Hopefully the street protests will continue for a long time as they are entirely warranted. If that keeps the Chinese away, well and good.

I am personally enjoying the lack of Chinese around my place. So personally I would love it to last. Enjoyed curfew as well. Maybe if they just bring it back would be great...

Well it had to happen  I knew  China  would be open to   Thailand  before any other country  ( with no restrictions  ??????)

But  January is a way off yet   

Wait  see  if the  first  lot of Chinese  bring the  virus back

Then  see if  by Jan  China  dont have another  wave of virus

So many things   these dreamers   cannot  see  

Why  will no other  country  let Chinese  in  ? 

Also with Chinese  here  again  not  many  other  tourist will  want to come anyway 

Why  not  just  give Thailand  to China....... China  owns  most of Thailand  anyway ... become  a provence  then all the Generals  will be safe  from  demonstrating  populations  

Cos  China  will use water  canons   they  use real  guns  

Good Luck  Thailand 

 

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

well if they test and have no virus as well as the mobile tracking then what's the problem ?

Nothing if they are kept in segregated bubbles away from the general population. Then I have no problem with them as don't have to see or hear them up in CM creating tourist havoc..

8 minutes ago, TERMINATOR3AB said:

Well it had to happen  I knew  China  would be open to   Thailand  before any other country  ( with no restrictions  ??????)

But  January is a way off yet   

Wait  see  if the  first  lot of Chinese  bring the  virus back

Then  see if  by Jan  China  dont have another  wave of virus

So many things   these dreamers   cannot  see  

Why  will no other  country  let Chinese  in  ? 

Also with Chinese  here  again  not  many  other  tourist will  want to come anyway 

Why  not  just  give Thailand  to China....... China  owns  most of Thailand  anyway ... become  a provence  then all the Generals  will be safe  from  demonstrating  populations  

Cos  China  will use water  canons   they  use real  guns  

Good Luck  Thailand 

 

Wow, so many negatives. 

56 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

I think the government needs to get tourism off the brain for now. They need to get Thai's and foreigners with families back to Thailand first before looking at bubbles and remember bubbles will burst from lying countries.

So what do the locals struggling to provide food for their kids do while they wait for your priorities?

"The agreement with Beijing will be subject to the success of a limited reopening of the Thai tourism industry to foreign travelers this month, according to Tourism Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakar

 

The minister is a bit delusional. The Chinese are calling the shots here,  the Thais need the tourists, not vice versa. The Chinese prefer their people to spend their money domestically to help the economy.

4 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

"Thailand is in talks with China to establish a quarantine-free travel corridor by January to rescue its ailing tourism industry"  

 

This maybe a risky move!  I have been following a Vlogger called serpentza on Youtube for a few years who lived in China for 13 years and has a lot of contacts there and he is saying the Wuhan China virus is still a huge problem in China.  The CCP are not telling the truth about it!

Where in the article does it say that chinese people from Wuhan will be able to come? China is a huge country and there are regions without local cases for months, and we're talking about January or later. Take a chill pill and relax. 

I don't think the Chinese government wants its citizens to mix with pro-democracy protesters or to know anything about those incidents or human rights.

 

They will have to be dealt with first.

 

No doubt the Chinese Communist Party is advising the Thai government on what should be done to suppress and control the Thai people more and prevent them from expressing any political opinions. Wait for some new anti-human rights and state surveillance laws, and some more bans and crackdowns.

2 hours ago, PatOngo said:

TAT..............forever blowing bubbles!????

I think I heard of a Chinese guy with the nickname Bubbles.

IMO it is not going to happen.

 

Imagine that there appear new cases in Thailand. Who are they going to blame this time?

Farangs? Can not as they are not allowed in or undergo a 14 days quarantine.

 

If Chinese are allowed in, free of all requested documents and free of quarantine, they will be the ones to be blamed;

 

Other way around: 

Imagine some Chinese return to China and are tested positive. Very bad for Covid free Thailand.

Who are they going to blame? There were a few cases where Thais travelled to Japan. This story and the story about the one who was in jail have gone very quiet.

Probably fake news or a misunderstanding. 

500 baht, some merit and the story goes away.

I hope at some time I will have a change of heart.

But at this point, I will do everything possible to avoid any interaction with Chinese.

I can wait for the next elevator thanks or eat at another restaurant.