UK tells EU: back down by Sunday night or we'll walk

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

You were warned, you didn't listen and now there will be a very heavy burden to bare by the EU, the EU thought they were slick but they were anything but. Von der Leyen has now said it looks like 'no deal' 

Let the EU keep issueing these phoney threats, who are these people that think that they can keep threatening another sovereign nation, and as Boris said "no PM can accept such terms" and how right he is.

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.????

But you were warned that voting for Brexit meant we would have no access to the single market unless we agreed to the EU's terms.

The EU were very specific about that prior to the referendum.

At the same time vote leave politicians such as Johnson, Gove and Farage were all saying we would be staying in the single market.

Easiest trade deal in history.

So why are Brexiteers now so dead set against what you actually voted for?

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But you were warned that voting for Brexit meant we would have no access to the single market unless we agreed to the EU's terms.

The EU were very specific about that prior to the referendum.

At the same time vote leave politicians such as Johnson, Gove and Farage were all saying we would be staying in the single market.

Easiest trade deal in history.

So why are Brexiteers now so dead set against what you actually voted for?

All your arguments are on a continual loop, should you wish to ignore what the Prime Minister said is of little matter to me, but I will repeat it just for you, 'in the result of a no deal we will be leaving the SM' 

Now for 5 years you have been telling us that the likes of Farage and Boris are the most evil liars God ever chose to put on this planet but all of a sudden now you are hanging on to their every word, talk about cherry picking, you are using a JCB.

[RuamRudy]

3 hours ago, vogie said:

If we leave on Australian terms many would say that is a "great deal" certainly better than what the EU are offering at the moment. No deal is better than a bad deal.

 

Australian terms, also known as Somalian terms or Burkino Faso terms.

Your emperor has no clothes on, Vogie. 

[david555]

28 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Australian terms, also known as Somalian terms or Burkino Faso terms.

Your emperor has no clothes on, Vogie. 

" Your emperor has no clothes on, Vogie. "

 

 

Marvellous ...!!????????

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by david555

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Putin would like that very much.

Yeah UK should make deals with Russia now the UK is free of the EU mafia.

[david555]

4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Yeah UK should make deals with Russia now the UK is free of the EU mafia.

A few Russian military bases on U.K.would be on the Putin demand list and all novachok acussations anulled and by high end ministers excused for it .....????

Edited December 11, 2020 by david555

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, david555 said:

" Your emperor has no clothes on, Vogie. "

 

 

Marvellous ...!!????????

 

It's not that marvellous, Somalia doesn't trade on WTO.

[david555]

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

It's not that marvellous, Somalia doesn't trade on WTO.

I did not used Somalia line  ....it was about the Emperor clothes ....????

 

I guess maybe you do not know that fiary tale ..?????

 

Anyway again a missed divertion from you ????

Edited December 11, 2020 by david555

[OneMoreFarang]

19 hours ago, Loiner said:

You can chose between Barnier, Ursula, or any of the EU. They’re all as bad. 

Boris has given them enough chances, now it’s time to walk away No Deal. 

LOL

You made my day.

[sirineou]

11 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Well if you think it is love that is holding the EU together then I pity you. Yes the Italians, Greeks, Poles and Hungarians love the EU????.

 

Lets see how much love there will be in a few months/years.

You just cant please some people first we were full of love, now we are pitiful. what's next ? I am afraid to ask.

By the way, this has to be the longest goodbye in history. Just pay you bar bill and go home already !  

[david555]

Boris as "The Pied Piper of Hamelin "   would fit the description too......

 

Leading Brits to the brexit Cliff's edge ...????

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by david555

[Hi from France]

49 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Australian terms, also known as Somalian terms or Burkina Faso terms.

or the Afghanistan terms. I'm not sure about Somalia, but the EU has an active policy towards least developed countries (LDCs), so products from Burkina Faso would have better conditions than Australia

 

 

Vogie, guys: When Boris announced “There will be no tariffs and no checks” (Boris Johnson interview, Andrew Marr Show 1year ago) did you believe him?

 

 

After all this time and a long career, do you really trust Boris Johnson that much?

[Loiner]

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I wouldn't bother with this thread it like a remainers loser thread with comments that will be known until UK is really out. 

They are all Remainer loser threads. TVF posts a piece of Reuters anti-Brexit propaganda or a spinned version and they all lap it up. What's odds there's a plethora of 'We're out and doomed' from Monday morning? 

[RayC]

5 hours ago, vogie said:

If we leave on Australian terms many would say that is a "great deal" certainly better than what the EU are offering at the moment. No deal is better than a bad deal.

Excellent examples of tautologies.

 

'Australian terms' = 'No deal' = 'Bad deal'

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

All your arguments are on a continual loop, should you wish to ignore what the Prime Minister said is of little matter to me, but I will repeat it just for you, 'in the result of a no deal we will be leaving the SM' 

Now for 5 years you have been telling us that the likes of Farage and Boris are the most evil liars God ever chose to put on this planet but all of a sudden now you are hanging on to their every word, talk about cherry picking, you are using a JCB.

You have totally missed my point. Its not the remainers who failed to listen to what was said it was you guys.

You ignored what the remain campaign was saying.

And now here we are. Even after Johnson, Gove and Farage promised you we would be staying in the single market.

Easiest trade deal in history. Norway deal. No-one is threatening our place in the single market. 

They lied to you Vogie. They promised things they could never deliver.

Get angry with them. Not me.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, david555 said:

A few Russian military bases on U.K.would be on the Putin demand list and all novachok acussations anulled and by high end ministers excused for it .....????

Yeah I'm all in for having Ruskie missiles set up all along the East coast of UK pointed to EU especially France..

[Kwasaki]

27 minutes ago, RayC said:

Excellent examples of tautologies.

 

'Australian terms' = 'No deal' = 'Bad deal'

Poor choice of words, if you are from the UK you are a traitor.

[Hi from France]

16 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

They lied to you Vogie. They promised things they could never deliver.

Get angry with them. Not me.

indeed what is astonishing is that for four years now each time there was "a fork in the road" of negotiations, Brexiteer politicians picked up the worst solution saying "you'll see it will get better" "our sovereignty is sacred and priceless" blabla

 

.. and each time, each time it got worst and the UK sovereignty was reduced, its reputation tarnished

 

 

I'm amazed you still believe these politician now, like talk about this "Australian deal" that simply does not exist. Boris is lying to you, that's what he did all his career.

 

 

 

Given the situation of a single country led by liars and newbies negotiating against a huge, experienced, trading block six time its size, it cannot and will not get better for you....

 

the brits used to be pragmatic and clever, now we've got populist ideologues

Edited December 11, 2020 by Hi from France

[RayC]

5 hours ago, vogie said:

I guess that nobody could have predicted how duplicitous the EU are, and they are doing this to punish the Brits for having the temerity to leave and to warn any existing EU members of the consequences should they want to leave. So it all boils down to frightening the members to remain rather than being fair and just so that members would not want to leave, I believe North Korea works on a similar process.

Another of the Brexiter's favourite refrains makes a reappearance.

 

Come 1/1/21 and beyond, will you still be blaming Remainers and the EU for any failures on the part of the UK government, or will you finally take some responsibility and accountability for events?

[vogie]

18 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

You have totally missed my point. Its not the remainers who failed to listen to what was said it was you guys.

You ignored what the remain campaign was saying.

And now here we are. Even after Johnson, Gove and Farage promised you we would be staying in the single market.

Easiest trade deal in history. Norway deal. No-one is threatening our place in the single market. 

They lied to you Vogie. They promised things they could never deliver.

Get angry with them. Not me.

They promised us Brexit, it appears to all but the deniers is that what we are getting, it is really not that difficult rookie.

And as I said you and the other happy Harrys on here have told us about how Boris and Nigel are bigger liars than Tom Pepper yet you bring them into your argument in the guise of the Arch Angel Gabriel and Mother Theresa. 

Good try Rookie, but no cigar.

[RayC]

5 hours ago, vinny41 said:

Holidaymakers from Great Britain barred from EU after 1 January under Covid rules

European commission indicates Britons will face ban on non-essential travel at end of Brexit transition

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/09/uk-holidaymakers-could-be-barred-from-visiting-eu-under-covid-safety-rules

 

The EU needs to keep open the Channel Tunnel and the airport routes to allow the 4 million EU citizens to return home for what ever reason

Unless they plan to tell their own citizens when one of their relatives is ill or dying, sorry we can't help it was your choice to live in the UK

and the UK must be punished for daring to leave the Great Project

The UK will become a '3rd country' in the EU's eyes on 1/1/21. The US is a 3rd country and its citizens are currently banned from entering the EU for non- essential reasons. Why should the UK be treated any differently?

 

I'd imagine that each of the individual EU member states have processes dealing with the repatriation of their nationals.

[tgw]

WAT - the UK leaves but Reuters says the EU will "walk".

????

 

just let the UK be the UK, up with the tariffs and let the UK "walk"... can't remember the last time I bought a product from the the UK when I was in Europe.

[david555]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-boris-johnson-call-merkel-macron-b1769975.html

 

Boris Johnson snubbed by Merkel and Macron after requesting phone call
Prime minister’s attempt to bypass European Commission rejected

 

Jon Stone   Brussels
@joncstone   1 hour ago

Boris Johnson has been snubbed by Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron after he requested a phone call with them to try and unblock Brexit talks.

 

A senior EU official said the request for a three-way call on Monday was rejected because all negotiations should go via the European Commission rather than individual leaders.

 

The claim, which is not being denied by the UK side, comes as Commission president Ursula von der Leyen told leaders at a summit in Brussels that a no-deal was now more likely than not.
 

[RayC]

4 hours ago, vogie said:

We will eat pebbles and drink mud before we capitulate to the EU.

It's very generous of you to accept hardships on behalf of UK residents from 7000 miles away. 

[vogie]

Just now, RayC said:

It's very generous of you to accept hardships on behalf of UK residents from 7000 miles away. 

I accept it will be difficult for you with having two mouths to feed!

[Hi from France]

10 minutes ago, david555 said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-boris-johnson-call-merkel-macron-b1769975.html

 

Boris Johnson snubbed by Merkel and Macron after requesting phone call
Prime minister’s attempt to bypass European Commission rejected.

 

 

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Boris Johnson has been snubbed by Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron after he requested a phone call with them to try and unblock Brexit talks.

 

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A senior EU official said the request for a three-way call on Monday was rejected because all negotiations should go via the European Commission rather than individual leaders.

 

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The claim, which is not being denied by the UK side, comes as Commission president Ursula von der Leyen told leaders at a summit in Brussels that a no-deal was now more likely than not.

 

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The prime minister had said on Thursday he would go to Paris and Berlin as well as Brussels "to try and get this home and get a deal".

 

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But his attempt to bypass the Commission and speak directly to the French and German leaders has been met with an unimpressed reaction across the bloc.

 

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Speaking on Friday in Brussels, Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte, a sometime ally of the UK on EU matters, said of Mr Johnson's suggestion he could visit: "I would like to invite him to stay in London and work hard. Capitals don't negotiate, Barnier does, and he has our full support."

 

 

"Capitals don't negotiate, Barnier does, and he has our full support."

[Kwasaki]

19 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

indeed what is astonishing is that for four years now each time there was "a fork in the road" of negotiations, Brexiteer politicians picked up the worst solution saying "you'll see it will get better" "our sovereignty is sacred and priceless" blabla

 

.. and each time, each time it got worst and the UK sovereignty was reduced, its reputation tarnished

 

 

I'm amazed you still believe these politician now, like talk about this "Australian deal" that simply does not exist. Boris is lying to you, that's what he did all his career.

 

 

 

Given the situation of a single country led by liars and newbies negotiating against a huge, experienced, trading block six time its size, it cannot and will not get better for you....

 

the brits used to be pragmatic and clever, now we've got populist ideologues

Sorry for speaking frankly about you being French I assume that you are I take it but  what on earth do you know of the English never mine UK.

You French are dreamers why do you have to learn to read and write English because you are a minority in the world like so many others and also belonging to a failing mafia club that has no place in the gobal worlds future. 

[Hi from France]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Sorry for speaking frankly about you being French I assume that you are I take it but  what on earth do you know of the English never mine UK.

Sorry, what is "the English never mine UK"? 

[Surelynot]

53 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Yeah I'm all in for having Ruskie missiles set up all along the East coast of UK pointed to EU especially France..

You're mental

[Kwasaki]

9 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

Sorry, what is "the English never mine UK"? 

Exactly you don't understand do you.