UK had 'one or two' Brexit teething issues on fishing, minister says

[youreavinalaff]

21 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Really?

I met many UK drivers with loads from EU chemical companies.

However I do agree its going to be a two way thing.

As if THAT helps anyone.

Brexit. The gift that keeps on taking.

Nice to see that you now accept that haulage is not as simple as the example you wished to portrait. 

Its also nice to see you backtracking on my "lack of knowledge".

Not back tracking on anything. You just repeated what I had said. That's why I agreed.

 

I also pointed out the business management was required. Thus never having stated that haulage was easy.

 

You like to put words in peoples' mouths to suit yourself. You take the parts of posts you don't like to try and ridicule. You take opinions and try to accuse people of making things up or lying simply because you don't agree. Sad but true.

[candide]

7 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

The fact that he failed to even consider that this could be the result... I just don't think he could ever be considered a loss for Spain.

A good example of how uninformed his decision to vote leave was. The guy was not even able to find out that, as an expat, he may be affected by it. My guess is that he's not the only one.

Edited March 30, 2021 by candide

[Loiner]

12 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

And none for those in Spain either?

Certainly not for those in Spain. They were the subject of the post. 

 

13 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

And none for those in Spain either?

Not at all. They are the subject of the posts. Why should they be any different? Regardless of the guy in the report, I expect most were Remainers anyway. 

[Loiner]

9 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

I have certainly asked that question many times before; as have others.

 

Yet, despite your claim, neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to come up with an answer. 

 

Go on; prove me wrong by finally providing one.

 

 

What a feeble excuse.

 

How could I have had any posts deleted?

 

Even had I reported any of your posts, which I haven't, they would only have been deleted had they broken the forum rules. Did they?

Keep asking, as many times as you like. 
Keep trying, cos I won’t bite. 

[Loiner]

On 3/28/2021 at 8:42 PM, tebee said:

Source for the 500 figure 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1415577/Brexit-news-latest-eu-vaccine-block-astrazeneca-uk-john-redwood-boris-johnson

 

British expats 'in tears' as Spain to deport 500 under new rules ‘Dream over'
THOUSANDS of British expats face being booted out of Spain for failing to register for residency under post-Brexit regulations.
 

So it’s half a thousand?

[Hi from France]

Suppose Brexit Britain wants to impose a tax on tech firms which made tons of money lately and pay little taxes...

Quote

A UK government spokesperson said: "Like many countries around the world, we want to make sure tech firms pay their fair share of tax. Our digital services tax (DST) is reasonable, proportionate and non-discriminatory.

 

what happens then?

 

the US is threatens to impose punitive import tariffs 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56565636

 

 

 

who will prevail ?

 

 

 

 

another proof that Brexit works ????

Quote

Brexit was sold on a myth that buccaneering Britain would be able to use its freedom from EU structures to strike great new trade deals the world over. The problem was twofold: not only was it a daft idea that Britain would expand its exports by trashing its economic relationship with its most important trading partner, it was also simply untrue that agility would somehow trump scale in trade negotiations.

 

Quote

As this spat with the US shows, most trading relationships have a very clear dynamic: the larger and stronger party makes its demands, and the smaller and weaker party accepts what it must. That’s why the Brexit deal itself was so one-sided,

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/30/biden-tariffs-brexit-britain-eu-big-tech

[Rookiescot]

6 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Not back tracking on anything. You just repeated what I had said. That's why I agreed.

 

I also pointed out the business management was required. Thus never having stated that haulage was easy.

 

You like to put words in peoples' mouths to suit yourself. You take the parts of posts you don't like to try and ridicule. You take opinions and try to accuse people of making things up or lying simply because you don't agree. Sad but true.

 

Do I?

What I do is highlight what other people say by quoting their own words back to them. Then present a counter argument.

If someone makes baseless assertions or presents spurious examples to try and back their position then I will spotlight that.

[Kwasaki]

5 hours ago, Hi from France said:

Suppose Brexit Britain wants to impose a tax on tech firms which made tons of money lately and pay little taxes...

 

what happens then?

 

the US is threatens to impose punitive import tariffs 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56565636

 

 

 

who will prevail ?

 

 

 

 

another proof that Brexit works ????

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/30/biden-tariffs-brexit-britain-eu-big-tech

The remainers are still here then, there is much going and positive news too.

 

There are signs the Biden administration wants a more conciliatory relationship on trade with the UK than Donald Trump did.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

The remainers are still here then, there is much going and positive news too.

 

There are signs the Biden administration wants a more conciliatory relationship on trade with the UK than Donald Trump did.

Ha....could have been a Tory spin doctor.....well impressed.

[stevenl]

50 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

The remainers are still here then, there is much going and positive news too.

 

There are signs the Biden administration wants a more conciliatory relationship on trade with the UK than Donald Trump did.

More conciliatory than Donald Trump, who was ready to sign a trade deal any moment?

 

Please give a source for the signs, and please explain how Biden is more conciliatory on trade deal with UK than Trump was.

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

More conciliatory than Donald Trump, who was ready to sign a trade deal any moment?

 

Please give a source for the signs, and please explain how Biden is more conciliatory on trade deal with UK than Trump was.

It was snippet news item comment from a UK politician who is in talks with US. 

[Surelynot]

27 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Please give a source for the signs

Think zip file......it's coming.

[Surelynot]

17 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

It was snippet news item comment from a UK politician who is in talks with US. 

Tory UK politician.........that changes everything.

[bkkcanuck8]

45 minutes ago, stevenl said:

More conciliatory than Donald Trump, who was ready to sign a trade deal any moment?

 

Please give a source for the signs, and please explain how Biden is more conciliatory on trade deal with UK than Trump was.

Highly unlikely in the near term now as the US is more focused on a Boeing-Airbus US/EU/UK resolution first (that allows Boeing to continue to be unfairly subsidized without repercussion)... meaning that the 'fast-track' trade authority for these negotiations are on the verge and likely to expire before even getting to the table... This makes a trade agreement with the US nearly impossible without total capitulation by the UK as any negotiated trade agreement will be unable to get an up or down vote in congress but will be subject to constant amendments after a trade agreement has been negotiated... by the US congress alone.  I know of no modern trade agreement with the US that has been able to be completed without the 'fast track' authority.

[Surelynot]

The US will consider signing a deal when it suits them.......with Brexit, the NI protocol farce and vaccine fights with the EU....I can't see them being in any rush.......a trade deal with the EU is a much greater prize.

[david555]

17 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

The very fact they call themselves expats and not migrants tells you all you need to know.

Some of them are even economic migrants but refuse to accept it.

But of course you need to understand the mindset of these people. Spain needs them more than they need Spain.

Or Thailand needs them more than they need Thailand.

This is what happens when the Tories "confiscate / void " brexit way  your European citizenship ......????

 

BTW.

Spanish authorities claim there is currently no such new round up of illegal British residents. They make the argument that there's no need, since these illegal residents as of now will be picked up on Schengen border-control data-bases when they exit the EU, since as third-country nationals since January 1st with no residence visa, they will be shown to have overstayed their 90-day limit and will be fined or prevented from entering Schengen on any attempt to return.
 

Edited March 31, 2021 by david555

[GrandPapillon]

30 minutes ago, david555 said:

This is what happens when the Tories "confiscate / void " brexit way  your European citizenship ......????

 

BTW.

Spanish authorities claim there is currently no such new round up of illegal British residents. They make the argument that there's no need, since these illegal residents as of now will be picked up on Schengen border-control data-bases when they exit the EU, since as third-country nationals since January 1st with no residence visa, they will be shown to have overstayed their 90-day limit and will be fined or prevented from entering Schengen on any attempt to return.
 

just like Thailand LOL ????

[GrandPapillon]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

The US will consider signing a deal when it suits them.......with Brexit, the NI protocol farce and vaccine fights with the EU....I can't see them being in any rush.......a trade deal with the EU is a much greater prize.

meanwhile ????

 

How Brexit changed UK businesses

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56441829

Edited March 31, 2021 by GrandPapillon

[david555]

3 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

just like Thailand LOL ????

And tomorrow also the truckers could get more border documents to become controlled as that 3 months temporary lenience expire today midnight 

[bkkcanuck8]

50 minutes ago, david555 said:

And tomorrow also the truckers could get more border documents to become controlled as that 3 months temporary lenience expire today midnight 

If your a haulage company that specializes in UK / EU transit (and the bulk of your goods are coming from London area)... based in the UK... you pretty much have to close up shop or sell at a discount to a company that does an excess of UK haulage as far as I can figure out...  From what I see you would spend a couple of hours in the UK, exit to the EU... drive to one destination and at most one other destination - then return (could be days of driving).    Your drivers will only be able to spend up half the days in the EU as the UK.  Reworking the scheduling would not really be an option.  (I don't know how many would be affected or to what extent).   Just because of the size differential (land mass and economy) this will heavily favour EU companies that do cross border trade.   Since trade in goods is two ways (to be efficient), this will likely mean that EU haulers will be able to offer more competitive rates and scheduling flexibility etc.... I expect the UK haulage industry to become pretty much UK only, while the EU will eventually completely dominate cross border work.

[david555]

6 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

If your a haulage company that specializes in UK / EU transit (and the bulk of your goods are coming from London area)... based in the UK... you pretty much have to close up shop or sell at a discount to a company that does an excess of UK haulage as far as I can figure out...  From what I see you would spend a couple of hours in the UK, exit to the EU... drive to one destination and at most one other destination - then return (could be days of driving).    Your drivers will only be able to spend up half the days in the EU as the UK.  Reworking the scheduling would not really be an option.  (I don't know how many would be affected or to what extent).   Just because of the size differential (land mass and economy) this will heavily favour EU companies that do cross border trade.   Since trade in goods is two ways (to be efficient), this will likely mean that EU haulers will be able to offer more competitive rates and scheduling flexibility etc.... I expect the UK haulage industry to become pretty much UK only, while the EU will eventually completely dominate cross border work.

some more from the transporters side 

 

https://www.lloydsloadinglist.com/freight-directory/news/UK-looking-at-delaying-new-EU-border-checks/78617.htm

 

Unilateral decision 

 

In order to give businesses time to adapt, the UK government last year decided unilaterally that imports into the UK from the EU could operate as normal until 1 April, a move that the EU declined to reciprocate. From that date, under current plans, all items of animal origin such as meat, honey, milk or egg products, as well as regulated plants and plant products, will require full documentation and, where necessary, veterinary certificates to be sold in the UK. From 1 July, all companies exporting to the UK will be required to fill out full customs declarations and goods could be subjected to physical checks at new UK customs centres.

Richard Burnett, the chief executive of the Road Haulage Association, said: “We are hearing from government that they are going to take a ‘light touch’ approach to the next phase, or perhaps even an extension of the grace period. Although this is sensible to continue the uninterrupted flow of food products from the EU into Great Britain, I am concerned that it weakens the government’s negotiating leverage when asking for similar easements from the EU for UK businesses attempting to trade with them.”

 

As reported last week the International Transport Union (IRU) has warned that imports of fresh produce to the UK from the EU face serious disruption next month when new border controls are introduced, reflecting concerns expressed by others in the freight sector.

 

more...

Edited March 31, 2021 by david555

[GrandPapillon]

I think things are about to get really interesting for Brexiteers ????

[Hi from France]

2 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

meanwhile ????

 

How Brexit changed UK businesses

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56441829

 

 

also

 

 

Quote

The Federation of Small Businesses (FSB), a lobby group, said 35 of the 132 exporters it surveyed had temporarily suspended trade with the EU or stopped it permanently. One in 10 of the exporters surveyed said they were also considering giving up trade with EU customers.

 

 

and there are stats

Quote

While trade between the UK and the EU is dominated by larger companies, exports are an important source of business for smaller and mid-sized enterprises. About one-fifth of smaller British businesses exported in 2019, according to government figures, although that represented a decline from the roughly 24% that exported before the financial crisis of 2008.

 

who said that leaving the single market would not have consequences?

Quote

The government-backed British Business Bank calculated last year that smaller businesses accounted for about one-third of UK exports in 2018, or £200bn of goods and services.

 

 

 

conclusion : 

teething problems are in danger of becoming permanent, systemic ones

While larger firms have the resources to overcome them smaller traders are struggling and considering whether exports are worth the effort any more

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/29/small-business-exports-fall-eu-survey-brexit

 

[david555]

 (Beware when travelling to avoid U.K. travel ban .....as Spain extended (or changed ?) their entrance policy ... ???? )   mixed Covid19 Brexit reason ...

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1417243/british-expats-spain-brexit-rules-residency-EU-alicante-airport-uk-exparts-deported

British expats deported from Spain as guards order group to get back on plane back to UK
BRITISH expats have been deported from Spain as guards ordered a group to get back on a plane to the UK, it has been revealed.

By RACHEL RUSSELL
PUBLISHED: 09:56, Wed, Mar 31, 2021 | UPDATED: 10:50, Wed, Mar 31, 2021

 

Britons arriving at Alicante-Elche airport yesterday were said to have been refused entry into Spain, before being sent back to Manchester on the same plane. A sign in the terminal had been put up, which said: "No tie card, no entry". It comes as Spain has extended restrictions on unnecessary travel from countries outside the EU until April 30 due to Covid, despite the measures originally being in place until today (March 31).

 

One passenger named Stuart Miller, who is a 47-year-old from Manchester, shared his fury at being turned away as he said Ryanair had allowed them to travel from the UK.

 

He told Olive Press: "People with letters from Alicante Foreigners Office asking them to collect their residency cards were turned away...what more proof do you need of residency?"

 

more...!

Edited March 31, 2021 by david555

[david555]

 (And another one about Brits who dont like to follow rules from country they live in .... ???? )

BTW  in which language is the U.K. exam for a DL. ?

 

Boycott France! Britons vow snub after UK expat blow - 'Don't give Macron your money'
BRITONS have reacted with fury after French authorities threatened the driving licences of 3,000 UK expats living in France in the latest row between Paris and London.

By JAMES BICKERTON
PUBLISHED: 11:08, Wed, Mar 31, 2021 | UPDATED: 11:38, Wed, Mar 31, 2021

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1417286/Brexit-news-British-expats-France-EU-Emmanuel-Macron-French-Brussels

 

French authorities have rejected efforts by some British migrants to exchange their driving licences as a post-Brexit agreement has yet to be approved. On a Facebook group for British national in France, Kim Cranstoun warned this could affect 3,000 expats including commuters and many elderly.
She said: “Some are thinking of moving back to the UK, it’s quite desperate.”

 

Those caught driving in France without a valid licence face a fine of up to £12,808 whilst the theory test for French licence must be done in the country’s language

 

more...

Edited March 31, 2021 by david555

[7by7]

16 hours ago, Loiner said:

Keep asking, as many times as you like. 
Keep trying, cos I won’t bite. 

 

Of course you wont; because after nearly 5 years, you obviously still can't identify a single benefit of Brexit!

[7by7]

8 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

The remainers are still here then, there is much going and positive news too.

 Will you break the habit of Brexiteers so far and actually give an example?

 

Well, you did say

8 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

There are signs the Biden administration wants a more conciliatory relationship on trade with the UK than Donald Trump did.

But: 

31/12/20: Brexit Britain Warned Biden Wants Trade Deal With EU Before UK

 

26/3/21; U.K.-U.S. Trade Deal Is Likely Years Away as Biden Shifts Focus

 

[Loiner]

22 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Of course you wont; because after nearly 5 years, you obviously still can't identify a single benefit of Brexit!

I’ve got plenty.  You’ve been given plenty. 
 

Edited April 1, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comment removed

[Thunglom]

How can a county that requires the army to supply them with food be regarded as a functional nation?

1000s of finance jobs going overseas.

Almost total collapse of the fishing industry

Imports are now being strangled

Supermarket shelves empty or filled with  one item where there used to be several.

Return of Phone roaming charges

Ending of Freedom of movement

Closure of Honda and other motor factories

New projects moved to EU

Thousands of workers leaving the country.

imports stalled by paperwork.

200 trucks a day turned back

huge truck parks in Kent overflowing.

supply chains disrupted and broken disrupted by increased bureaucracy and costs.

Hauliers refusing to deliver to UK.

 

 

Anyone who thinks these are teething problems as in a new baby is sadly deluded - these are teething problems as in kicked in the teeth by an ideologically obsessed government

 

the Brexit festival has been renamed to Festival UK 2022 (= FUK2022 !?!?!)

Edited August 15, 2021 by Thunglom

[Thunglom]

On 3/31/2021 at 8:32 PM, Loiner said:

I’ve got plenty.  You’ve been given plenty. 
 

sorry, you'll have to do better than that.