Just now, RJRS1301 said:

Psychological politics were not played on him, his lack self awareness  to his toxic personality traits from childhood, have been rewarded as failed upwards.  A legend in his own life as millions infected and hundreds of thousands die, incapable of decent decisions and bent on revenge as always, still cannot admit he lost the election. He has always been like it, how many bankruptcies?

 

You could be right , i say "could " ...... as i just give comment as an outsider , but i find that it was clear they never respected the outcome from his election as president ...... 

 

in my European country i can be called a center socialist as it brought welfare to common people (and NO ! we are no communists ..)  But i could never vote for  the present Democrats like they became  even that would be most , but  not complete  most in my ideological direction , ...... they treated his election not fair , no sports  , when Bush was elected they did not react so ...... oh !...... "Hilly" was not humiliated probably that time .....could it be that ?

17 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Trusted brand? Trump University Trump Vodka? Trump steak?

Golf clubs bleeding money, casinos bankrupt( that takes a special talent), debts coming due and banks refusing him extensions on loans, some refusing to deal with him at all. Breaking the law by living at his Florida address, full of ethics and integrity.

 

Sorry xylophone, cannot remove your name from this post.

 

No problem RJRS1301 and thank you for adding to my post, and after reading some of the trump supporters posts on here, I have to wonder why they like liars, cheats and losers?

8 minutes ago, david555 said:

You could be right , i say "could " ...... as i just give comment as an outsider , but i find that it was clear they never respected the outcome from his election as president ...... 

 

in my European country i can be called a center socialist as it brought welfare to common people (and NO ! we are no communists ..)  But i could never vote for  the present Democrats like they became  even that would be most , but  not complete  most in my ideological direction , ...... they treated his election not fair , no sports  , when Bush was elected they did not react so ...... oh !...... "Hilly" was not humiliated probably that time .....could it be that ?

It was the fact he was without policies, lost the popular, and had only revenge as his lifelong MO, along with his misogynic attitudes, inability  to listen, and is a liar .

He even lied about the number of people at his inauguration when it was possible for the entire world to see by the photographs he lied

 

 

This time he lost the popular, the electoral college votes , the congress and the senate, and still peddles the lie that he won, in spite of 60 court cases getting nowhere.

 

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6 hours ago, ShindenGo said:

Back in high school I remembered seeing planes fly into buildings in New York. I remember studying how the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in a surprise attack...

 

Trump did far worse...He directed and told his supporters to violently overthrow the legally elected President Biden in a violent and bloody insurrection, a coup and a rebellion. 
 

Trump is responsible for the direct attack on the worlds heart of democracy!

 

The young often lack perspective, or for that matter, focus.

 

The amateur hour 'coup' was never a viable endeavor. In a way, maybe it's good that it happened that way, sort of a wake up call for America. Lets hope they can learn and improve.

 

Now 9/11 saw a few thousands lose their lives, and in the aftermath civil rights taking a hit, and the US bogged in a couple of bogus wars on foreign soil. The death toll from these, plus economic damages can be added to totals.

 

Pearl Harbor, other than direct casualties, saw the US entering WWII - ultimately, for the best (unless one's got a fetish for silly mustaches), but that too - at a terrible cost of human lives.

 

You could have gone for Trump underwhelming treatment of the Coronavirus situation, resulting in over half a million deaths. That would hold greater merit as comparison. Not that the associated death toll would have been low if a sane President was in place, but he definitely made it much worse.

Supercut Shows How Trump's CPAC Speech Was Just A Regurgitation Of Fox News Rants

 

"CNN’s Brianna Keilar spotted something very familiar about ex-President Donald Trump’s speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Orlando, Florida, on Sunday.

Namely, that Trump’s address was packed full of the “false narratives and talking points” that are pushed by hosts, contributors and guests on the former president’s favorite network, Fox News."

 

What a surprise!

1 hour ago, Morch said:

You could have gone for Trump underwhelming treatment of the Coronavirus situation, resulting in over half a million deaths. That would hold greater merit as comparison. Not that the associated death toll would have been low if a sane President was in place, but he definitely made it much worse.

 

There's different ways of measuring and evaluating things...  Human deaths is one way, but calculating the damage done to a country's reputation, standing in the world, democratic political system and process for picking the most powerful leader in the world is another.

 

The death and injuries toll from the Capitol Hill insurrection, and even those that occurred on 9/11, pale in comparison to the broader damage done to the country and its institutions. Trump presided over the sacking of the U.S. as a country and has left likely longstanding damage to its democratic institutions. The impact of that likely goes well beyond the comparative death counts.

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

There's different ways of measuring and evaluating things...  Human deaths is one way, but calculating the damage done to a country's reputation, standing in the world, democratic political system and process for picking the most powerful leader in the world is another.

 

The death and injuries toll from the Capitol Hill insurrection, and even those that occurred on 9/11, pale in comparison to the broader damage done to the country and its institutions. Trump presided over the sacking of the U.S. as a country and has left likely longstanding damage to its democratic institutions.
 

 

I agree and disagree. Trump and the damage done are a fact. He's not even done yet.

 

But (and that's not put forth as defense of Trump)

 

Trump mainly capitalized and highlighted existing long term issues with the US - social, legal, political, you name it. Back in 2015-2016 or so, one often expressed opinion was that Trump is not important, but shaking things up is. I disagree with the former, and wish the latter would have happened otherwise. Not the wake up call anyone would have wished to hear at 6am, but to quote the former President - it is what it is.

 

Longstanding damage? Sure. Irreversible, or not a catalyst for much called for changes? Yet to be seen. I hope that Trump's triumphs (such as they were) will ultimately prove to be the undoing of the forces he represents.

Even nutjob alex jones of the conspiracy site infowars thinks trump supporters are as dumb as a box of rocks.

 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/alex-jones-regrets-meeting-donald-trump-but-is-happy-to-make-millions-out-of-his-followers-who-will-buy-anything/news-story/87091484916e543dfe694118d89bfdca

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Even nutjob alex jones of the conspiracy site infowars thinks trump supporters are as dumb as a box of rocks.

 

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/alex-jones-regrets-meeting-donald-trump-but-is-happy-to-make-millions-out-of-his-followers-who-will-buy-anything/news-story/87091484916e543dfe694118d89bfdca

5555....funny.  Some day, all of these nutjobs (including Trump himself) will come out and admit it to the world that it was always about the money.  Like him or hate him, Alex Jones was honest about making money off of idiot Trump supporters.  He's right, these gullible rubes will believe anything.

 

[He also allegedly boasted of making “millions” selling “d**k pills” to Trump followers who would “buy anything”.]

On 3/2/2021 at 12:26 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

No. In such a tragic scenario I would expect Don jr or perhaps Ivanka to step up and fill the position. Trump is a trusted brand among Republicans and also generally among libertarians/conservatives/patriots who do not identify as "Republican". The name is a trusted brand because he ran on promises, and after winning did exactly what he said he would do(never happened before, won't happen again). That he was attacked by the losers for 4 straight years that called him an "illegitimate President" by the Democrat power players like Mrs Clinton, Biden himself, and Jimmy Carter , and made all all manner of hoaxes to bash him without evidence strengthened the support and trust for the Trump name. He is rightly a hero to 70 million Americans and many more people worldwide that value freedom and honesty - see his image used by HK anti communist protestors as an example.

 Still, I would rather see Trump sr. serve one more term before handing the reins over to his kids and their kids next. America would be in good hands if leadership remains stacked with Trump DNA.

There's drinking the Kool Aid and there's drinking the Kool Aid.

 

Ignoring the obviously spurious notion that Trump did 'exactly what he said he would do,' am I right in thinking your idea of what is best for the US is a Trump dynasty, starting with another 4 years of Trump himself, closely followed by the Trump minions (sorry, children) and perpetually followed on by 'Trump DNA' ad infinitum?

 

Why don't you just got the whole hog and declare America a monarchy, install Trump on a throne, make those delightful children of his Princes and Princesses and be done with any notions of choice.

 

All Trump fans call themselves patriots but when it comes to Trump, you would happily forget The Revoltionary War and over 200 years of democracy just so you could have your fave cult leader back and installed in a situation where he can't be criticised, can't be held accountable and most importantly, can't be ousted.

 

It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.     

3 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

There's drinking the Kool Aid and there's drinking the Kool Aid.

 

Ignoring the obviously spurious notion that Trump did 'exactly what he said he would do, am I right in thinking your idea of what is best for the US is a Trump dynasty, starting with another 4 years of Trump himself, closely followed by the Trump minions (sorry, children) and perpetually followed on by 'Trump DNA' ad infinitum?

 

Why don't you just got the whole hog and declare America a monarchy, install Trump on a throne, make those delightful children of his Princes and Princesses and be done with any notions of choice.

 

All Trump fans call themselves patriots but when it comes to Trump, you would happily forget The Revoltionary War and over 200 years of democracy just so you could have your fave cult leader back and installed in a situation where he can't be criticised, can't be held accountable and most importantly, can't be ousted.

 

It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.     

Unfortunately millions and millions of Americans have the same thoughts as the poster you were replying to.

22 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

I was listening to a podcast today. They commented Trump is potentially making more money than ever from his fundraising. Stunning some fall for the lies.

 

His niece mentioned that Trump is running (or pretending to run) for President in 2024 just to raise money.  In fact, looking back at his career, about the only times he was successful in making money was the Apprentice show and claiming he won the 2020 election.  Since the former is not likely to happen, the latter is all he's got.  I hope he siphons every last dime from these nutty supporters of his.  That would be his most enduring legacy.      

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23 hours ago, Morch said:

 

I agree and disagree. Trump and the damage done are a fact. He's not even done yet.

President Trump is out of office, or haven't you heard?

4 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

President Trump is out of office, or haven't you heard?

Yet he continues to undermine democracy by promoting the lie that the 2020 election was fraudulent.

On 3/1/2021 at 10:28 PM, placeholder said:

And what about his trillion dollar infrastructure plan?

Next week is infrastructure week.  The former, twice-impeached president who lost the 2020 election said that often enough over his catastrophic four-year term.  Guilfoyle said he's going to do more at this desk in Florida in the next four years than Biden and Harris will do in the WH, and why would she lie? 

 

IMO the biggest threat to the former president, more so than the legal actions, is a disgruntled MAGA type for whom the Koolaid has worn off and wants vengeance for the humiliation he/she went through.  I also believe there are elements among Federal employees who have their own fascist fantasies, and see him as someone who would make an excellent martyr for the cause. 

 

 

On 3/2/2021 at 7:00 PM, ShindenGo said:

Back in high school I remembered seeing planes fly into buildings in New York. I remember studying how the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in a surprise attack...

 

Trump did far worse...He directed and told his supporters to violently overthrow the legally elected President Biden in a violent and bloody insurrection, a coup and a rebellion. 
 

Trump is responsible for the direct attack on the worlds heart of democracy!

Perhaps you are not aware that Biden was not president on 6 January. Bit hard to overthrow him when he wasn't president yet.

44 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you are not aware that Biden was not president on 6 January. Bit hard to overthrow him when he wasn't president yet.

Biden was president elect at the time, and had enough havoc been wrecked up the elected members in the house, then as CIC could have declared emergency powers, suspend the congress and attempt to invoke martial law, to enable him to act a certain PM. 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you are not aware that Biden was not president on 6 January. Bit hard to overthrow him when he wasn't president yet.

Well ok then let’s just call it betrayal of the oath of office humm?or perhaps insurrection does that fit a bit better?doesent really matter much the disgraced ex president lost the election he’s fired 

11 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

President Trump is out of office, or haven't you heard?

You didn't see his speech at CPAC? Filled with lies. Calling out members of congress by name and asking to get rid of them?

 

Sadly, some are still falling for the BS. Stunning.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you are not aware that Biden was not president on 6 January. Bit hard to overthrow him when he wasn't president yet.

He started the attacks before the election. You know that.

26 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

You didn't see his speech at CPAC? Filled with lies. Calling out members of congress by name and asking to get rid of them?

 

Sadly, some are still falling for the BS. Stunning.

 

7 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

 

Another horrible speech filled with lies and hate. Boggles my mind how anyone would enjoy listening to that bs.

4 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Another horrible speech filled with lies and hate. Boggles my mind how anyone would enjoy listening to that bs.

Same speech, CPAC speech, very good.

52 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Same speech, CPAC speech, very good.

Retro speech and just regurgitating old stuff. Pity not accompanied by his regular retro YMCA. People got bored and wouldn't do the GOP much good to expand their base. 

2 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

Same speech, CPAC speech, very good.

He just parroted the same bs that's coming from the fake news right wing media outlets. Almost word for word. But that's what we've been seeing for years.

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps you are not aware that Biden was not president on 6 January. Bit hard to overthrow him when he wasn't president yet.

And if he had written President-elect instead of President you wouldn't have had a point at all. How trivial can a comment be?

 

14 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

President Trump is out of office, or haven't you heard?

 

May I refer you to the headline and OP?

Former President Trump is indeed out of office. That doesn't stop him for spreading the same conspiracy theories undermining the US.

2 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

Same speech, CPAC speech, very good.

Another example that Trump supporters love being lied to.  I'm sure there's a name for this condition.