If anybody wants to watch the CCSA's daily presentation in English it is on channel NBT2 HD. I happened upon it by accident yesterday just after noon and caught it again today at the same time.

A Thai gent with an American lilt to his accent gave today's presentation. Yesterday it was a Thai lady with a more English accent. Her flat vowels (paark for park) suggest that she was maybe at a uni in the North of England, perhaps Manchester. If she gave a weather report and spoke of the "sunshiiine" we would know for sure.

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Could be i mean anutin is in trouble and looking bad only dropping numbers can save him. So who knows the numbers might be manipulated. But im not sure about it, lets just see what happens on facebook. If we have many reports of hospitals refusing patients and people dying we know the numbers are fake. If not .. then maybe they are true.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if there are a few cover ups. I have just heard that 50 or more students at my university have been admitted with Covid. There is no official announcement. When I asked someone in admin if it was true, I got a simple "yes' as an answer. No more info than that.

A reminder of the various kinds of establishments in Bangkok that have been ordered closed starting today for at least two weeks because of the province's COVID outbreak:

 

 

 

The same order for Bangkok also includes a new legal requirement for wearing face masks whenever in public:

 

"The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has announced a new measure that residents in Bangkok have to put on face masks outside the home from Monday or be subject to a hefty fine.

 

Bangkok Governor Aswin Kwanmuang said the penalty would also apply to all establishments that fail to enforce mask-wearing for those on their premises. Violators risk a fine up to 20,000 baht under the Communicable Disease Act."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157974968762050

 

BMA officials are advising that the mandatory mask wearing rule DOES apply for family members traveling in the same car together. But it does NOT apply if one person is driving alone in a car.

 

And new operating hours for various retailers that took effect Sunday in Bangkok and other so-called red zone provinces:

 

• Shopping malls, community malls: 11am to 8pm
• Supermarkets, food courts: Close by 9pm
• Convenience stores: 5am to 10pm.

 

Massage parlour operators protest yet another closure

 

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A group of massage business owners handed in a petition to Bangkok governor Aswin Kwanmuang on Monday asking for assistance after their businesses were closed for 14 days as of Monday.

 

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has ordered the closure of massage parlours and spas from Monday to May 9, as they are considered to pose a high risk of infection.

 

Pitak Yotha, one of the representatives, said his business has been closed three times over Covid, but the government has not offered any assistance.

 

He said massage parlours have never sparked Covid cases but are always the first to be closed."

 

(more)

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000236

 

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Apparently the Thai's are calling it the Songkran wave, knowing all to well why it started and who let it start

They should call it ''The Brainless of Bangkok Wave'' or ''The Prayut/Anutin Folly Wave''  !

Just now, trainman34014 said:

They should call it ''The Brainless of Bangkok Wave'' or ''The Prayut/Anutin Folly Wave''  !

I think the latter more appropriate because the former would include some TV posters ????????

9 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

In other news, some other countries are dealing with COVID a little better... and doing things Thailand was dreaming about... Until reality struck...

 

 

Thailand already has a bubble in place.

 

It exists between Anutin's ears.

43 minutes ago, meltonpie said:

Just maybe Thailands fortunes are really changing for the better?

One of the new  "imported" cases in quarantine is from China it seems.

China who with a population of 1,439,323,776 reports on average just ten new cases per day.

There is more chance of winning the lottery.

Do you have a reference for that? I would like to look it up.

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

Yes, I posted todays report at 9:15 this morning.

 

It ha been like this the last few mornings whereas the usual time has always been approx 11:30.

 

 

 

Possibly linked to the fact that Richard Barrow has been leaking these daily figures early since last week. At least 2-3 hours ahead of the official press release.

 

I guess he has a contact somewhere...

2 hours ago, club said:

I was thinking the same thing. How can they know how many cases for today when its only noon time Monday? This has to be yesterday 

It's always yesterday.

Just seen reported that one of those who died had a "herniated disc" listed as an underlying condition. <deleted>, can't see that been a contributing underlying condition.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

To make sure that new virus variants, carried by people arriving from abroad, do not spread out of quarantine facilities, Dr. Opart Karnkawinpong, director-general of Disease Control Department, said that the Public Health Ministry will propose that the CCSA subcommittee extend the quarantine period from 10 to 14 days and require all those under quarantine to remain in their rooms during their entire isolation period.

 

Surprise, back to square one ????

2 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

I know the Doomsday merchants screaming for a lockdown are going to be feeling a bit humiliated but cases are clearly declining now.

Use a 7 day simple moving average and the numbers tell a different story.

14 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

Just seen reported that one of those who died had a "herniated disc" listed as an underlying condition. <deleted>, can't see that been a contributing underlying condition.

 

Those kinds of things aren't being listed as contributing causes of death. They're being listed as preexisting conditions, which is a different thing. The causes of death are COVID, and then for each case, they also list how they think the infection was acquired.  In a lot of the cases, though, the other kinds of preexisting conditions may have contributed to the COVID deaths.

 

 

 

Richard Barrow

 

@RichardBarrow

· 25 Apr

I really don’t understand why the Thai government has been so hesitant in containing the third wave. They did so well last year. There have been 24,207 cases and 46 deaths since 1st April. Another 11 deaths today. Why on Earth did they not cancel Songkran and restrict travel? twitter.com/thainewsreport…

 

Jonathan Head

 

@pakhead

 

Many governments have stumbled in dealing with Covid-19. Those that haven’t, like Jacinda Adern in NZ, tend to enjoy strong public trust and reputations for agility and competence. Thailand’s government, stacked with cronies and old-style godfathers, has none of these qualities.

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Good news to see the trend going down, and the fatality rate still low.  Makes you wonder why they still felt the need to close open-air public parks and swimming pools! 

Ah. The good news crowd. Been good news for a while now. Well before those pesky immagrant workers. Up to 900 a day. I remember 900 down to 850. Good news. Good news for sure. Keep up the good work but please remember to say bad news when it goes from 26 to almost 3000 a day in just over 3 wks. . How many infections total and how many deaths this month which has not yet finished. Not good news for the 1000's who are getting this and the 100's or even 1000' who have or will die. Why do the fanboy stuff. Are you being paid like the Chinese 20 centers?

As for parks and pools this virus is airborne via droplets and aerosol. The jury is most definitely IN on this. Anti-maskers are completely insane (please anyone argue against this). Apart from that if you believe anything a junta tells you ...well, say no more.

As for any reply saying be positive well that's just nonsence. 

5 hours ago, YetAnother said:

we want to know where they are ; what provinces, as granular as they have the data

I saw in Phuket just over 300 cases but it didn't mention any deaths 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

To make sure that new virus variants, carried by people arriving from abroad, do not spread out of quarantine facilities, Dr. Opart Karnkawinpong, director-general of Disease Control Department, said that the Public Health Ministry will propose that the CCSA subcommittee extend the quarantine period from 10 to 14 days and require all those under quarantine to remain in their rooms during their entire isolation period.

They may be tightening quarantine because they just discovered Thailand's first Brazilian P.1 variant in quarantine. Good thing they caught it.

 

Pango Lineage

P.1 (version: 2021-04-21)

Host:	Human
Additional location information:	Travel history from France and detected at State Quarantine facility on day 6th after arrival at Suvarnbhumi Airport
Gender:	Female
Patient age:	28
Patient status:	unknown
Specimen source:	Nasopharyngeal swab and Throat swab

(info from GISAID uploaded 23-4-2021 )

 

A pair of posts have been removed... first, for posting day-old, out-of-date statistics, and second, for pulling the info from the Bangkok Post, which does not allow its content to be posted here.

 

 

So we all muddle along until Thursday until the powers that be have another F>>>>>>G meeting.

Disgusting, there should be an emergency meeting every morning (or afternoon)

Lock it down NOW for 10 days,

Even Perth with 2 cases did

4 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

The numbers are always what was recorded on the previous day. 

The time that they are reported the following day has no bearing on them what so ever.

 

 

In Thailand they're always yesterday's numbers yes. Sweden stopped reporting weekends already in early June last year = down to 5 days a week, then they switched to reporting new numbers 3 times a week just before I got a flight to Thailand in early August last year. We're late April now and Thailand is still reporting 7 days a week.  IMO, reporting here is good.

56 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

Just seen reported that one of those who died had a "herniated disc" listed as an underlying condition. <deleted>, can't see that been a contributing underlying condition.

Yep. This is some type of journalistic co-morbdity porn. Rediculous. Saw gout the other day. I predict ingrown toe nail coming soon. Not making light of the situation and how some co-morbidities can make a difference to live or die, a little sick or a lot sick but we as news consumers do not need to know this. Anyone, please tell me why I need to know someone who died of covid had a herniated disc (me: L4/5 and herniated into not out of the spinal cord and pretty sure won't impact me if I get covid) or gout has anything to with news concerning covid-19. It's bizzare.

What they need to be reporting is died from lack of hospital beds and soon lack of oxygen. How many tests are being done and where. What is the positive %. Publish pneumonia numbers and deaths from pneumonia. This is news but this is also not a democratically elected govt. Freedom of the press under milatary or what Thailand is described as a hybrid democracy (military/civilian, eveyone knows the situation) is not free at all hence a tightening of computer crime laws under the ever extending state of emergency.

 

Is the calculator needing new  batteries today?

1 hour ago, rabas said:

Do you have a reference for that? I would like to look it up.

Just data from worldometer

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

(edit - if you meant the data for the person from China, I don't have the data, but read it this morning in one of the news feeds detailing where the new quarantine cases had traveled from)

 

28 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yep. This is some type of journalistic co-morbdity porn. Rediculous. Saw gout the other day. I predict ingrown toe nail coming soon. Not making light of the situation and how some co-morbidities can make a difference to live or die, a little sick or a lot sick but we as news consumers do not need to know this.

 

See above:

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1215055-thailand-reports-over-2048-covid-19-cases-8-new-deaths/?do=findComment&comment=16418812

 

Those kinds of things aren't being listed as contributing causes of death. They're being listed as preexisting conditions, which is a different thing.

 

The causes of death are COVID, and then for each case, they also list how they think the infection was acquired.  In a lot of the cases, though, the other kinds of preexisting conditions may have contributed to the COVID deaths. Sometimes, though, they clearly are not likely related to the death.. But still a preexisting condition. The information being relayed is exactly what the government is reporting.

 

53 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

I saw in Phuket just over 300 cases but it didn't mention any deaths 

The next frontier for many will sadly be the final frontier.

B500 fine for a Thai for not wearing a mask and yes, you've guessed it, B20,000 for a foreigner. Just waiting for that report.

 

Thai News Reports

 

@ThaiNewsReports

·

16m

 

 

Officials have fined two people at a market in Ayutthaya 500 baht each for not wearing a mask. It is now compulsory to wear a mask in many provinces. Maximum fine is 20,000 Baht.

 

@ThaiPBS

#COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

1 hour ago, realfunster said:

 

Possibly linked to the fact that Richard Barrow has been leaking these daily figures early since last week. At least 2-3 hours ahead of the official press release.

 

I guess he has a contact somewhere...

 

He usually posts a little while after it's gone up on Thai Enquirer but I think somewhere in Thai first.  

I think we need to see the numbers over the coming days/ weeks before we start saying numbers are going down  ect 

To Get a true indication of the numbers involved needs time 

 

6 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

very quick today with the numbers... Normally they announce it after 11 o'clock. Something fishy again. Yesterday Sunday, less testing and quickly announce to prevent problems???

 

They probably have decided that the guy who announces the numbers, can make them up by himself, and no need any more for a committee to negotiate which number they gonna pull out of their hat.