9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Do you think the "7-day lockdown" mooted for Bangkok will do any good? 

 

Sounds a bit like the UK's 3 week lockdown that turned into about 15 months.

 

If they lockdown, it will be for more than 7 days. 

3 minutes ago, smedly said:

vaccine , vaccine, where's the #### vaccine  (not sure what word to put in there)

vaccine, vaccine, where's the  'non-sinovac' vaccine.

10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Do you think the "7-day lockdown" mooted for Bangkok will do any good? 

I noticed traffic in Pattaya had increased these last couple of days 

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Do you think the "7-day lockdown" mooted for Bangkok will do any good? 

It cannot do harm regards the virus spread and hospital bed shortage but thats too short in my opinion, anyway I don't think they'll implement it according to this article.

 

"Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin from the CCSA, however, said that although the CCSA and Bangkok Metropolitan Administration had heard proposals from doctors about a short lockdown of Bangkok they are so far against it but not for economic reasons. According to Dr. Taweesin, any sort of lockdown, even with an attempt to be strictly enforced with multiple checkpoints and controls, would still lead to many people fleeing the city to their home provinces or to places, not under lockdown, potentially spreading the Covid-19 disease further into parts of the country such as the Northeast where there were few, or in some cases no, confirmed cases in some time."

 

https://tpnnational.com/2021/06/23/leading-thai-doctors-suggesting-lockdown-of-bangkok-for-at-least-seven-days-but-covid-19-center-disagrees-so-far/

 

However I suspect if numbers continue like this they will have no choice as the hospitals will simply be overwhelmed.

10 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

US is now advising NOT to travel to Thailand.

really ?

 

Sandbox at home 

3 minutes ago, smedly said:

I noticed traffic in Pattaya had increased these last couple of days 

 

See more BKK plates than Chonburi plates in Pattaya

5 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Level 3: COVID-19 High

• COVID-19 in Thailand May 19, 2021 Make sure you are fully vaccinated before traveling to Thailand. Unvaccinated travelers should avoid nonessential travel to Thailand.

 

Very bad news today, sand box Phuket is over now before start.

3 minutes ago, smedly said:

I noticed traffic in Pattaya had increased these last couple of days 

In or out? Guess hard to tell.

 

#COVID19 UPDATE on THURSDAY:

31 deaths and 4,108 cases (229 from prisons).

 

Full details at 12:30pm #Thailand

19 June: 3,667 - 32 dead

20 June: 3,682 - 20 dead

21 June: 3,175 - 29 dead

22 June: 4,059 - 35 dead

23 June: 3,174 - 51 dead

24 June: 4,108 - 31 dead <— TODAY

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407868634437799936

 

12 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

US is now advising NOT to travel to Thailand.

Thailand Travel Advisory

 

Reconsider travel to Thailand due to COVID-19. Read the entire Travel Advisory.

Read the Department of State’s COVID-19 page before you plan any international travel.   

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued a Level 3 Travel Health Notice for Thailand due to COVID-19, indicating a high level of COVID-19 in the country. Your risk of contracting COVID-19 and developing severe symptoms may be lower if you are fully vaccinated with an FDA authorized vaccine. Before planning any international travel, please review the CDC's specific recommendations for vaccinated and unvaccinated travelers.

Visit the Embassy's COVID-19 page for more information on COVID-19 and related restrictions and conditions in Thailand.  

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/thailand-travel-advisory.html

 

Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 254 new cases and two more deaths. Most new cases are in Sattahip (115), Chonburi City (68), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (21) and Si Racha (32). The total cases so far is now 7,024 with 1,877 remaining in care #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407855690597638148

 

22 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

And now Som Nut has shot Som Wan dead in a covid field hospital in Pathum Thani I just read in BP.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002398

4 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said:

Very bad news today, sand box Phuket is over now before start

All the folk doing the sandbox thing already required to be fully vaccinated.

Don't think Phuket governor would support lockdown.

 

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 254 new cases and two more deaths. Most new cases are in Sattahip (115), Chonburi City (68), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (21) and Si Racha (32).

That is a worry - Pattaya had a report of 2# yesterday also - 115 in Sattahip, didn't expect that one 

5 minutes ago, smedly said:

- 115 in Sattahip, didn't expect that one

Wasn't the Sattahip one all about the food market. In other words large cluster is specific area. However can quickly spread.

 

Covid-19 task force pushes back on Bangkok lockdown proposal

 

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration is so far resisting calls for a 7-day lockdown for Bangkok as cases in the capital soar. Yesterday, Thailand reported 3,174 new infections and a record high of 51 deaths, most of them in Bangkok. However, according to a Bangkok Post report, the CCSA says the pros and cons of locking down the capital need careful consideration.

 

Spokesman Taweesilp Visanuyothin says while the lockdown suggestion was discussed at yesterday’s CCSA meeting, there is a risk that closing businesses would result in large numbers of workers travelling home to the provinces, thereby spreading the virus further.

 

“The lockdown measure has its pros and cons and must be weighed. Closure of an area or factory may bring infections under control, but workers will be left jobless and head back to their home provinces and problems will arise in other areas. Putting Bangkok in a lockdown will prompt movement to the provinces and lead to more infections.”

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/covid-19-task-force-pushes-back-on-bangkok-lockdown-proposal

The US has issued a Level 3 travel advisory for Thailand not a Level 4:

 

Level 3 - Reconsider Travel: Avoid travel due to serious risks to safety and security. The Department of State provides additional advice for travelers in these areas in the Travel Advisory. Conditions in any country may change at any time. 

 

Level 4 – Do Not Travel: This is the highest advisory level due to greater likelihood of life-threatening risks. During an emergency, the U.S. government may have very limited ability to provide assistance. The Department of State advises that U.S. citizens not travel to the country or to leave as soon as it is safe to do so. 

49 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

This isn’t an artifact, this is just bad. 
 

it looks like 4,000 cases a day will soon be the new normal.

Until 5,000 cases a day becomes the next new norm

1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said:

The US has issued a Level 3 travel advisory for Thailand not a Level 4:

 

Level 3 - Reconsider Travel: Avoid travel due to serious risks to safety and security. The Department of State provides additional advice for travelers in these areas in the Travel Advisory. Conditions in any country may change at any time. 

 

Level 4 – Do Not Travel: This is the highest advisory level due to greater likelihood of life-threatening risks. During an emergency, the U.S. government may have very limited ability to provide assistance. The Department of State advises that U.S. citizens not travel to the country or to leave as soon as it is safe to do so. 

yet !

17 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 254 new cases and two more deaths. Most new cases are in Sattahip (115), Chonburi City (68), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (21) and Si Racha (32). The total cases so far is now 7,024 with 1,877 remaining in care #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407855690597638148

 

Ouch, it just keeps growing in Chonburi as well.  What happened to the Peak was reached, and then this will be over in a few weeks, we have it under control.  Where is Anutin to tell us how well things are going.  I agree with the PM "What will be will be", and yes you have caused the "Will be" to occur due to inaction and slow vaccine procurement and rollout especially as you saw India being hit hard.

This must be some weekend leftover count or something like that

53 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Seems like a certain someone yesterday saying I told you so may owe the forum a retraction. Today at 3,879 community positives is just over a 100 less than Tuesday's 3,984. Tuesday is no longer is a spike. This is a trend. 

Yes, it looks like Tuesday wasn’t a “weekend” spike, but Wednesday was a dip. Now today back up to 4K.

 

daily figures bump around a bit, but the rise in 7 day rolling average is going to steepen.

 

and I’m still getting over reading about the doctor at sirriroj hospital who said yesterday that they stopped testing people, because if they turned out positive, they didn’t have any beds for them anyway.

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Where is Anutin to tell us how well things are going.  I agree with the PM "What will be will be",

Don't think that you will hear much from Tweedledee and Tweedledum in next few days.

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

 

Covid-19 task force pushes back on Bangkok lockdown proposal

 

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration is so far resisting calls for a 7-day lockdown for Bangkok as cases in the capital soar. Yesterday, Thailand reported 3,174 new infections and a record high of 51 deaths, most of them in Bangkok. However, according to a Bangkok Post report, the CCSA says the pros and cons of locking down the capital need careful consideration.

 

Spokesman Taweesilp Visanuyothin says while the lockdown suggestion was discussed at yesterday’s CCSA meeting, there is a risk that closing businesses would result in large numbers of workers travelling home to the provinces, thereby spreading the virus further.

 

“The lockdown measure has its pros and cons and must be weighed. Closure of an area or factory may bring infections under control, but workers will be left jobless and head back to their home provinces and problems will arise in other areas. Putting Bangkok in a lockdown will prompt movement to the provinces and lead to more infections.”

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/covid-19-task-force-pushes-back-on-bangkok-lockdown-proposal

Seems about right.

3 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

and I’m still getting over reading about the doctor at sirriroj hospital who said yesterday that they stopped testing people, because if they turned out positive, they didn’t have any beds for them anyway

Indeed. Folk should have been all over this. 

In my thinking extremely concering

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Indeed. Folk should have been all over this. 

In my thinking extremely concering

What happens here obviously with hospitals limiting testing is that new clusters are not found due to zero contact tracing going on with people unable to get a test.

12 minutes ago, Excel said:

yet !

Well Malaysia is Level 4 so who knows.

47 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Do you think the "7-day lockdown" mooted for Bangkok will do any good? 

Personally, I can’t see the point of a 7 day lock down in bangkok. It wouldn’t even register as a speed bump in the road for the virus because it is now so widespread.

 

I think it’s a binary choice of ignore case levels and full speed on the vaccines, or 2 months of severe lockdown and full speed ahead on the vaccines. In other words, either fight the virus or don’t. Waving a feather with a 7 day lockdown causes social issues and achieves little or nothing.

 

I don’t want to be a doomsayer, but realistically, if following the former course, buckle up for a bumpy ride. 20k cases a day and 1k deaths a day are what the authorities should be preparing for. You only have to look at the real world example of the UK to know that that, and worse, is not only a possibility, but a probability. 

Pfizer delay, no surprise there

 

Anutin said the 20 million Pfizer vaccines that were ordered will not arrive until Q4. He said Pfizer first told him Q3 but then changed to Q4 when signed and there is nothing Thailand can do about it because we do not produce them.

 

https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1407682127060111366

 

36 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002398

The cause of death is being investigated?

 

wasn’t he shot by a gunman as he came out of the bathroom? So death might be as a result of a gunshot? Unless he had a heart attack as a result of being taken by surprise.????