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My wife flew into Buriram about 6 weeks ago as she had come from Bkk she has a choice covid test or 14 days at home took the covid test at 600 baht are they getting rorted in Phuket at 4,000 baht a test,,,

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4 minutes ago, grego49 said:

My wife flew into Buriram about 6 weeks ago as she had come from Bkk she has a choice covid test or 14 days at home took the covid test at 600 baht are they getting rorted in Phuket at 4,000 baht a test,,,

 

PCR tests are much more expensive than the lateral flow tests - I would guess that was the 600baht one, still 4000baht is a rip off, reasonable price nowadays would be closer to 1800baht, but it's a NACC sanctioned funnel from private hospitals to generals so you have to pay your way

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8 minutes ago, asiam110 said:

 

PCR tests are much more expensive than the lateral flow tests - I would guess that was the 600baht one, still 4000baht is a rip off, reasonable price nowadays would be closer to 1800baht, but it's a NACC sanctioned funnel from private hospitals to generals so you have to pay your way

Agree. PCR tests vary between 1800 and 3000. I have done them

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7 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

I may be wrong, but I don't believe that any insurance would refund you the test cost, when you decide to take a non-essential trip

You are, wrong. I have had 13 tests except for the 3 in ASQ completely indemnified from cost. Was not able to acquire  itemized receipts for those 3. I am already FULLY insured. The  travel  insurance for  "USD $100,000  covid-19" " and near scam insurance for the  O/A visa Thailand makes me buy is the real waste of money. 

 

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7 hours ago, JCP108 said:

As I've stated before, my concern isn't so much the cost. My bigger concern is the consequences of getting a false positive on one of the tests, even if not actually infected. I don't want to spend 14 days in a Thai hospital if not necessary. If one believes that the rate of false positives for PCR tests is 0.5%, then having to get four of them means there now is a 2% chance of getting a false positive. If they were to get 10,000 travelers to the sandbox, 200 of them statistically would be predicted to get a false positive result for at least one of those tests. That could result in a lot of extra hospital admissions for the local hospitals. Can they handle that if they really are successful at getting people to sign up and actually come play in the sandbox?

False positiv/positiv with no symthoms they put you and your family into field hospital. That will be a scary experience. Fan...mama noodle...14 day expensive fun with no hotel refund.

 

Positiv with symthoms you get a 14 hospital stay with no hotel refund and family 14 days at field hospital.

 

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5 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

You are, wrong. I have had 13 tests except for the 3 in ASQ completely indemnified from cost. Was not able to acquire  itemized receipts for those 3. I am already FULLY insured. The  travel  insurance for  "USD $100,000  covid-19" " and near scam insurance for the  O/A visa Thailand makes me buy is the real waste of money. 

 

Very surprised at that. You must have exceptional insurance. I wouldn't normally expect this to be covered.

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10 minutes ago, madmitch said:

Very surprised at that. You must have exceptional insurance. I wouldn't normally expect this to be covered.

I think it is exceptional because of covid the insurance companies are being backstopped by the US govt like with vaccines. No, nothing is free. I have not got any notices for the tests that were direct billed and the ones I put in for reimbursement were paid without question.

 

Not tooting my horn it costs me near $200 per month. I have been with the same company for years no major illnesses. They wont even fill out the Foreign Insurance certification form (complicated reason) for my Thai visas and COE so with travel insurance I have 3 separate policies this year!

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I read this, only 3 tests, day 1-6-13th

when leaving whatever day after 14, you only need a letter of proof stating you stayed minimum 14 days.

 

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15 hours ago, Rhacsyn said:

Below are the actual requirements sent to me earlier today as a prospective traveller . Covid test before travel, of course, then one arrival, one on day 6 and one on day 12 if you choose to stay that long.

 

Travel to Phuket

Effective 1 July 2021, Phuket will be accepting vaccinated international passengers subject to the following rules and requirements.

Reopening guidelines for Phuket and Surat Thani (Ko Samui, Ko Phangan and Ko Tao)

Pre‑arrival

·        Thai nationals, residents and tourists must be travelling from countries/regions with a low to medium risk  of SAR‑CoV‑2 virus, as mentioned in the left and middle columns of the list, constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH). Please note that the list of countries is currently only available in Thai. Tourists must also have already stayed in the said countries/regions for no less than 21 days before travelling to Thailand.

·        Passengers must be fully vaccinated against COVID‑19 with a vaccine registered with the MoPH or approved by the World Health Organisation (WHO) no less than 14 days before the travel date, and must have a vaccine certificate to verify their vaccination.

·        Children below 6 years old are allowed entry when travelling with fully vaccinated parents or guardians.

·        Travellers who have a history of COVID‑19 infection must also be fully vaccinated no less than 14 days before the travel date.

·        Travellers must have a medical certificate with a negative COVID‑19 RT‑PCR laboratory result issued no more than 72 hours before departure.

·        Travellers must have a COVID‑19 health insurance policy with a minimum coverage of USD 100,000.

·        Travellers must have pre‑booked SHA (Safety & Health Administration) Plus‑certified accommodation.

·        Visa on arrival facilities are not available. All travellers who require an entry visa must apply through the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate office.

·        Travellers who are qualified and equipped with the required documents must apply for a Certificate of Entry (COE).

·        Non‑vaccinated passengers will need to undergo COVID 19 RT PCR testing upon arrival and stay at an Alternative Local Quarantine Hotel for 14 days. This can be booked either directly with hotel or online through agoda.com

·        Vaccinated passengers who are travelling from red zone countries such as India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal are not permitted to enter Phuket. This will be updated based on the COVID 19 situation in those countries.

·        The following vaccines are accepted as per the latest guidelines of the Thai government: Pfizer BionTech, AstraZeneca, Covidshield (Serum Institute of India), Johnson & Johnson, Sinovac, SK BIOSCIENCE, Moderna and Sinopharm. If the vaccine is not among the approved list, the passenger must undergo a 14 day quarantine.

Arrival

·        Passengers must undergo Immigration and Customs procedures, and a COVID‑19 screening, including RT‑PCR testing.

·        Passengers must download and install the alert app.

·        Go directly to your reserved hotel to await the test results.

·        Passengers arriving in Phuket must check‑in at pre‑booked SHA Plus‑certified accommodations.

·        Passengers arriving in Ko Samui must check‑in at alternative local quarantine (ALQ) facilities.

·        Passengers travelling to Phuket who test negative for COVID‑19 can go anywhere in Phuket.

·        Passengers travelling to Ko Samui who test negative for COVID‑19 can leave their room for facilities and services within their accommodation only.

Stay

For travellers to Phuket:

·        There is no minimum stay required in Phuket. However, travellers must leave Phuket for another country on or before their intended departure date.

·        For travellers who want to continue their journey to other destinations in Thailand, they must stay in Phuket for 14 nights before starting their domestic travel.

·        Travellers staying for more than 14 days must take a COVID‑19 PCR test day 6 and day 12.

For travellers to Ko Samui:

·        During the first 3 nights of their stay, travellers can leave their room for facilities and services within their accommodation only.

·        From day 4 to day 7, travellers can travel on specified routes within Ko Samui only.

·        From day 8 to day 14, travellers can travel between Ko Samui, Ko Phangan and Ko Tao.

·        Travellers must undergo a COVID‑19 RT‑PCR test per the MoPH’s guidelines.

·        Travellers are advised to strictly follow the distancing, mask wearing, handwashing, temperature check, testing for COVID‑19, and alert app (DMHTTA) precautions to prevent the spread of COVID‑19.

Domestic travel

For passengers travelling from Phuket or Samui‑Phangan‑Tao to other destinations in Thailand must show proof that they have completed a 14‑day stay along with the other required documents per the guidelines and measures announced by the respective destination.

 

The Netherlands is on the list of high risk countries? As I understand the infection rate there is the lowest since last year September... only European country with Poland and Ukraine, and these countries are green (safe) on the European ECDC map ...

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15 hours ago, Rhacsyn said:

Below are the actual requirements sent to me earlier today as a prospective traveller . Covid test before travel, of course, then one arrival, one on day 6 and one on day 12 if you choose to stay that long.

 

Travel to Phuket

Effective 1 July 2021, Phuket will be accepting vaccinated international passengers subject to the following rules and requirements.

Reopening guidelines for Phuket and Surat Thani (Ko Samui, Ko Phangan and Ko Tao)

Pre‑arrival

·        Thai nationals, residents and tourists must be travelling from countries/regions with a low to medium risk  of SAR‑CoV‑2 virus, as mentioned in the left and middle columns of the list, constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH). Please note that the list of countries is currently only available in Thai. Tourists must also have already stayed in the said countries/regions for no less than 21 days before travelling to Thailand.

·        Passengers must be fully vaccinated against COVID‑19 with a vaccine registered with the MoPH or approved by the World Health Organisation (WHO) no less than 14 days before the travel date, and must have a vaccine certificate to verify their vaccination.

·        Children below 6 years old are allowed entry when travelling with fully vaccinated parents or guardians.

·        Travellers who have a history of COVID‑19 infection must also be fully vaccinated no less than 14 days before the travel date.

·        Travellers must have a medical certificate with a negative COVID‑19 RT‑PCR laboratory result issued no more than 72 hours before departure.

·        Travellers must have a COVID‑19 health insurance policy with a minimum coverage of USD 100,000.

·        Travellers must have pre‑booked SHA (Safety & Health Administration) Plus‑certified accommodation.

·        Visa on arrival facilities are not available. All travellers who require an entry visa must apply through the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate office.

·        Travellers who are qualified and equipped with the required documents must apply for a Certificate of Entry (COE).

·        Non‑vaccinated passengers will need to undergo COVID 19 RT PCR testing upon arrival and stay at an Alternative Local Quarantine Hotel for 14 days. This can be booked either directly with hotel or online through agoda.com

·        Vaccinated passengers who are travelling from red zone countries such as India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal are not permitted to enter Phuket. This will be updated based on the COVID 19 situation in those countries.

·        The following vaccines are accepted as per the latest guidelines of the Thai government: Pfizer BionTech, AstraZeneca, Covidshield (Serum Institute of India), Johnson & Johnson, Sinovac, SK BIOSCIENCE, Moderna and Sinopharm. If the vaccine is not among the approved list, the passenger must undergo a 14 day quarantine.

Arrival

·        Passengers must undergo Immigration and Customs procedures, and a COVID‑19 screening, including RT‑PCR testing.

·        Passengers must download and install the alert app.

·        Go directly to your reserved hotel to await the test results.

·        Passengers arriving in Phuket must check‑in at pre‑booked SHA Plus‑certified accommodations.

·        Passengers arriving in Ko Samui must check‑in at alternative local quarantine (ALQ) facilities.

·        Passengers travelling to Phuket who test negative for COVID‑19 can go anywhere in Phuket.

·        Passengers travelling to Ko Samui who test negative for COVID‑19 can leave their room for facilities and services within their accommodation only.

Stay

For travellers to Phuket:

·        There is no minimum stay required in Phuket. However, travellers must leave Phuket for another country on or before their intended departure date.

·        For travellers who want to continue their journey to other destinations in Thailand, they must stay in Phuket for 14 nights before starting their domestic travel.

·        Travellers staying for more than 14 days must take a COVID‑19 PCR test day 6 and day 12.

For travellers to Ko Samui:

·        During the first 3 nights of their stay, travellers can leave their room for facilities and services within their accommodation only.

·        From day 4 to day 7, travellers can travel on specified routes within Ko Samui only.

·        From day 8 to day 14, travellers can travel between Ko Samui, Ko Phangan and Ko Tao.

·        Travellers must undergo a COVID‑19 RT‑PCR test per the MoPH’s guidelines.

·        Travellers are advised to strictly follow the distancing, mask wearing, handwashing, temperature check, testing for COVID‑19, and alert app (DMHTTA) precautions to prevent the spread of COVID‑19.

Domestic travel

For passengers travelling from Phuket or Samui‑Phangan‑Tao to other destinations in Thailand must show proof that they have completed a 14‑day stay along with the other required documents per the guidelines and measures announced by the respective destination.

Sign me up.

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16 hours ago, JCP108 said:

As I've stated before, my concern isn't so much the cost. My bigger concern is the consequences of getting a false positive on one of the tests, even if not actually infected. I don't want to spend 14 days in a Thai hospital if not necessary. If one believes that the rate of false positives for PCR tests is 0.5%, then having to get four of them means there now is a 2% chance of getting a false positive. If they were to get 10,000 travelers to the sandbox, 200 of them statistically would be predicted to get a false positive result for at least one of those tests. That could result in a lot of extra hospital admissions for the local hospitals. Can they handle that if they really are successful at getting people to sign up and actually come play in the sandbox?

Would any Tourists in their right minds be prepared to run the risk of a 14 / 15 night stay in a  Thai Hospital due to a false positive.

Its not just that a Holiday has been ruined, but all the additional costs would be horrendous, and its doubtful if any Holiday Insurance scheme would cover this scenario.

Or, do the Tourists still have to have $ 100,000 coverage of a Thai Covid policy before entry to the Sandbox

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16 hours ago, Rhacsyn said:

Below are the actual requirements sent to me earlier today as a prospective traveller . Covid test before travel, of course, then one arrival, one on day 6 and one on day 12 if you choose to stay that long.

 

Travel to Phuket

Effective 1 July 2021, Phuket will be accepting vaccinated international passengers subject to the following rules and requirements.

Reopening guidelines for Phuket and Surat Thani (Ko Samui, Ko Phangan and Ko Tao)

Pre‑arrival

·        Thai nationals, residents and tourists must be travelling from countries/regions with a low to medium risk  of SAR‑CoV‑2 virus, as mentioned in the left and middle columns of the list, constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH). Please note that the list of countries is currently only available in Thai. Tourists must also have already stayed in the said countries/regions for no less than 21 days before travelling to Thailand.

·        Passengers must be fully vaccinated against COVID‑19 with a vaccine registered with the MoPH or approved by the World Health Organisation (WHO) no less than 14 days before the travel date, and must have a vaccine certificate to verify their vaccination.

·        Children below 6 years old are allowed entry when travelling with fully vaccinated parents or guardians.

·        Travellers who have a history of COVID‑19 infection must also be fully vaccinated no less than 14 days before the travel date.

·        Travellers must have a medical certificate with a negative COVID‑19 RT‑PCR laboratory result issued no more than 72 hours before departure.

·        Travellers must have a COVID‑19 health insurance policy with a minimum coverage of USD 100,000.

·        Travellers must have pre‑booked SHA (Safety & Health Administration) Plus‑certified accommodation.

·        Visa on arrival facilities are not available. All travellers who require an entry visa must apply through the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate office.

·        Travellers who are qualified and equipped with the required documents must apply for a Certificate of Entry (COE).

·        Non‑vaccinated passengers will need to undergo COVID 19 RT PCR testing upon arrival and stay at an Alternative Local Quarantine Hotel for 14 days. This can be booked either directly with hotel or online through agoda.com

·        Vaccinated passengers who are travelling from red zone countries such as India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal are not permitted to enter Phuket. This will be updated based on the COVID 19 situation in those countries.

·        The following vaccines are accepted as per the latest guidelines of the Thai government: Pfizer BionTech, AstraZeneca, Covidshield (Serum Institute of India), Johnson & Johnson, Sinovac, SK BIOSCIENCE, Moderna and Sinopharm. If the vaccine is not among the approved list, the passenger must undergo a 14 day quarantine.

Arrival

·        Passengers must undergo Immigration and Customs procedures, and a COVID‑19 screening, including RT‑PCR testing.

·        Passengers must download and install the alert app.

·        Go directly to your reserved hotel to await the test results.

·        Passengers arriving in Phuket must check‑in at pre‑booked SHA Plus‑certified accommodations.

·        Passengers arriving in Ko Samui must check‑in at alternative local quarantine (ALQ) facilities.

·        Passengers travelling to Phuket who test negative for COVID‑19 can go anywhere in Phuket.

·        Passengers travelling to Ko Samui who test negative for COVID‑19 can leave their room for facilities and services within their accommodation only.

Stay

For travellers to Phuket:

·        There is no minimum stay required in Phuket. However, travellers must leave Phuket for another country on or before their intended departure date.

·        For travellers who want to continue their journey to other destinations in Thailand, they must stay in Phuket for 14 nights before starting their domestic travel.

·        Travellers staying for more than 14 days must take a COVID‑19 PCR test day 6 and day 12.

For travellers to Ko Samui:

·        During the first 3 nights of their stay, travellers can leave their room for facilities and services within their accommodation only.

·        From day 4 to day 7, travellers can travel on specified routes within Ko Samui only.

·        From day 8 to day 14, travellers can travel between Ko Samui, Ko Phangan and Ko Tao.

·        Travellers must undergo a COVID‑19 RT‑PCR test per the MoPH’s guidelines.

·        Travellers are advised to strictly follow the distancing, mask wearing, handwashing, temperature check, testing for COVID‑19, and alert app (DMHTTA) precautions to prevent the spread of COVID‑19.

Domestic travel

For passengers travelling from Phuket or Samui‑Phangan‑Tao to other destinations in Thailand must show proof that they have completed a 14‑day stay along with the other required documents per the guidelines and measures announced by the respective destination.

And don't forget to bring your personal lawyer with you who will need to accompany you at all times!

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If you go on an actual vacation and need another test prior to your return trip back home, you're looking at undergoing 5 tests. Not exactly a nice prospect.

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2 hours ago, Krabi King said:

 

The Netherlands is on the list of high risk countries? As I understand the infection rate there is the lowest since last year September... only European country with Poland and Ukraine, and these countries are green (safe) on the European ECDC map ...

Here is the list as of 16 June 2021 - Thailand is also listed as high risk country.

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Adding to that from what I've picked up on social media (I am German citizen, so it doesn't concern me):

 

UK returns from Thailand must purchase Covid test before arrival and do 10 day quarantine

USA just told citizens to avoid traveling to Thailand because of Covid situation and political unrest.

 

Not so many countries left where visitors to the Sandbox could come from....

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9 minutes ago, CLW said:

USA just told citizens to avoid traveling to Thailand because of Covid situation ...

 

Reconsider ... not avoid.

 

9 minutes ago, CLW said:

... and political unrest.

 

Only 4 provinces: Yala, Pattani, Narathiwat, and Songkhla.

 

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9 minutes ago, superal said:

That is a big worry .

 

Only if you're dumb enough not to do due diligence and buy a policy not fit for purpose.

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4 hours ago, superal said:

That is a big worry . So you have the $ 100,000 coverage on a Thai policy and you test a fake positive . You are then at the Thai authorities instructions where they will/ could present big hospital bills to the insurance company who will probably resist any settlement , leaving you to settle the bill ?  Also how can a PCR test of 40000 baht be justified ? The whole scenario of the Phuket sandbox is starting to look dodgy

Sorry typo 4000 not 40,000

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