Chon Buri bans liquor sales and gatherings with alcohol at night starting Saturday

[Simple Jack]

I don't really go the bars anymore. I do enjoy a few beers at home on a friday night.

 

 I do have a lot sympathy for people more social than myself.  I have more sympathy for my local m&p shops.  They are really struggling.

 

IMOP buying a few beers to take home should not be a big problem.  Loitering & drinking. I do disagree with.

 

As for restaurants. I avoid them like the plague.  Pass a few each day with 60+ people. In really close quarters. Elbow to elbow.  Seems pretty stupid.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, no "dramatic effect" (what?) was necessary, I was just responding to ronster's comment, that's why.   He mentioned bars, try to keep up.    Ronster's comment...

"So despite all bars and restaurants around the country not been allowed to open or sell alcohol over the last months the covid numbers grew and grew !!"

 

OMG, the bars and clubs  that are closed CANNOT sell booze after 8pm

 

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

[uktony]

Does that include hand sanitizers

[Liverpool Lou]

7 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, no "dramatic effect" (what?) was necessary, I was just responding to ronster's comment, that's why.   He mentioned bars, try to keep up.    Ronster's comment...

"So despite all bars and restaurants around the country not been allowed to open or sell alcohol over the last months the covid numbers grew and grew !!"

 

OMG, the bars and clubs  that are closed CANNOT sell booze after 8pm

 

OMG OMG OMG OMG.

That was ronster's comment, not mine, what are you going on about?     If you're so intent on having an argument have it with him!

 

By the way, restaurants and some bars have been open in Bangkok until last week though not permitted to sell alcohol.

[Ralf001]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

 

By the way, restaurants and some bars have been open in Bangkok until last week though not permitted to sell alcohol.

 

By the way this is the Pattaya forum and this new directive is about Pattaya.

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

By the way this is the Pattaya forum and this new directive is about Pattaya.

By the way, you really need to read the posts that I respond to and the context of my replies before giving your unwanted advice to me about anything.

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

By the way, you really need to read the posts that I respond to and the context of my replies before giving your unwanted advice to me about anything.

 

you need a tissue ?

[Simple Jack]

Gentlemen please....  Not every topic must result in a poop throwing competition.

[BestB]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's not correct, many markets have been reported as being closed due to outbreaks.

And he strikes again. Markets that have been found positive were closed, thousands of markets remain open.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, BestB said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's not correct, many markets have been reported as being closed due to outbreaks.

And he strikes again. Markets that have been found positive were closed, thousands of markets remain open.

Was there something incorrect about what I said, then?  Many markets have been closed!

 

Do you think that every market in Thailand should be closed?  You know, the places where the majority of ordinary Thais buy their essentials such as food?   How about if all the places where foreigners buy their food were closed also, would you agree with that?

[Skeptic7]

3 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

 

So, get up, get out & make friends with your local bottle shop ???? that's supposed to be a smiley face

You're right of course, but it was intended as a joke. Kinda lost the context without the 3 laughing emotions which obviously are blocked now. Guess they're gonna treat us even more like children than before. 555 <insert clinking beer mugs here>????

[ericisking]

6 hours ago, sandyf said:

The pubs in the UK were shut down for well over a year, as soon as they opened up again guess what happened.

Well over a year ?? Nonsense !

Pubs and restaurants were initially closed for about 3 months. Reopened on July 4th 2020. There was no spike in cases at that time.

Next problem was not till September when Universities and schools reopened, so don't go blaming pubs like the government love to do.

 

[Golden Triangle]

10 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

You're right of course, but it was intended as a joke. Kinda lost the context without the 3 laughing emotions which obviously are blocked now. Guess they're gonna treat us even more like children than before. 555 <insert clinking beer mugs here>????

Yep the AWOL emojis are a bit of a bummer, no problems, I completely understand & would've got the joke with smiley faces ( thumbs up emoji )

[mrfill]

7 hours ago, sandyf said:

The pubs in the UK were shut down for well over a year, as soon as they opened up again guess what happened.

 

And when you say 'opened up' you mean drinking indoors only whilst seated, no singing, no shouting, no ordering at the bar, mask worn unless seated - not even neare the unfettered dream of the 'definitely not alkies' - spouting high volume garbage to anyone within earshot whilst striding/wobbling around.

[sandyf]

27 minutes ago, ericisking said:

Well over a year ?? Nonsense !

Pubs and restaurants were initially closed for about 3 months. Reopened on July 4th 2020. There was no spike in cases at that time.

Next problem was not till September when Universities and schools reopened, so don't go blaming pubs like the government love to do.

 

You are perfectly free to believe what you want, even that cases are no higher now than they were on the 17th May.

[sandyf]

7 minutes ago, mrfill said:

 

And when you say 'opened up' you mean drinking indoors only whilst seated, no singing, no shouting, no ordering at the bar, mask worn unless seated - not even neare the unfettered dream of the 'definitely not alkies' - spouting high volume garbage to anyone within earshot whilst striding/wobbling around.

Quite, it certainly wasn't unfettered access to boozing inside.

[from the home of CC]

7 hours ago, robblok said:

Logic is a strange concept to beer lovers. While i am against the ban on sale of alcohol. Not opening night life and making sure that drinking people are not close together is good of course.

 

You Sir have no clue what your talking about. The numbers are high without bars, they would be even higher with.

 

In most civilized countries did they close bars the first in The Netherlands and even in the UK where closing a pup is equal to sacrilege. So why is it that the bar flies that emigrated to Thailand make such a fuzz as its the same as in their home country.

 

Now of course all the most of the night life lovers live in Pattaya and put their selfish desires in front of the common good. Not so strange kinda like druggies needing a fix. 

not 'kinda like druggies' , they are druggies. Don't understand people that segregate all mind altering substances from alcohol just because society decided to legalize the worst drug in use. 

 https://www.addictioncenter.com/community/is-alcohol-a-drug/

[Scott Tracy]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

District chief officers of every district in Chon Buri, in their capacity as chiefs of the operations centres to control the disease, have been ordered to enforce the ban.

 

It wouldn't work here. Brothers in law are both district chief and deputy, village head geezer is one of the worst offenders. Last year we had security posts, manned from 11pm to 4 am. Nothing this year.

Shops selling and permitting drinking on the premises, well, when I say shop and premises, I mean somebody's house and their garden, will not  close, as they sell everything else. Someone will buy a bottle of beer with their Mama, someone else will smell it, and there will be a weeping and wailing in the streets. Both brothers in law will rock up, followed by the head geezer and there will be a party.

 

Ban all this as you can, but he prepared for a reality check.

[BestB]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Was there something incorrect about what I said, then?  Many markets have been closed!

 

Do you think that every market in Thailand should be closed?  You know, the places where the majority of ordinary Thais buy their essentials such as food?   How about if all the places where foreigners buy their food were closed also, would you agree with that?

Yes I do believe every market in Thailand should be closed. Ordinary thai ? What is that? Are there also extra ordinary thai ? Do you know where Thailand is on the map? 

[johng]

8 minutes ago, BestB said:

Are there also extra ordinary thai ?

Yes they live in the bit marked Thailand in this map 

( PS  smileys are not working so this is a joke for those hard of humour)

 

[joecoolfrog]

8 hours ago, sandyf said:

The pubs in the UK were shut down for well over a year, as soon as they opened up again guess what happened.

I'm gonna have a stab at the answer here ; People enjoyed themselves in pubs ?

[DoctorB]

13 hours ago, sandyf said:

The pubs in the UK were shut down for well over a year, as soon as they opened up again guess what happened.

No they weren't; at least not continuously. And since reopening, deaths and hospitalisations are at an all time low. The general consensus is that in reality the hospitality industry, if well managed, is not a serious spreader of covid.

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, DoctorB said:

And since reopening, deaths and hospitalisations are at an all time low.

 

This is due to vaccinating the population.

 

The majority of new cases are now vaccinated people.  Chose not to vax, that's your risk.  As more and more countries vaccinate to around 70%, if not more, they will start opening up and the short, but sharp, covid era will come to pass.  Those who chose not to vax, and die, will be third page news.    

 

1 hour ago, DoctorB said:

The general consensus is that in reality the hospitality industry, if well managed, is not a serious spreader of covid.

 

Rubbish.

 

[Stargeezr]

I guess Panda and the other companies will be delivering a lot more liquid dinners after the ban.

  Opportunity for some..  Thanks old Great  PM General.

Geezer

[madmen]

Bet it turns into total ban soon 

[jacko45k]

22 hours ago, Henryford said:

So buying drinks at 7.59 pm but not 8.01 pm is OK duh !!

Duh.... yes, about right. So what are you suggesting, 7.58 or a total ban?

[joecoolfrog]

20 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

This is due to vaccinating the population.

 

The majority of new cases are now vaccinated people.  Chose not to vax, that's your risk.  As more and more countries vaccinate to around 70%, if not more, they will start opening up and the short, but sharp, covid era will come to pass.  Those who chose not to vax, and die, will be third page news.    

 

 

Rubbish.

 

Well managed is the key phrase !

You might be surprised at the time and effort that has gone into upgrading and safeguarding hospitality venues in the UK.

However long term thinking and government support play a big part so all bets are off for Thailand.

Vaccination is absolutely key , it drives everything , until a large percentage of their population is fully and adequately treated , no country is going to progress.

[Leaver]

18 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Well managed is the key phrase !

You might be surprised at the time and effort that has gone into upgrading and safeguarding hospitality venues in the UK.

However long term thinking and government support play a big part so all bets are off for Thailand.

Vaccination is absolutely key , it drives everything , until a large percentage of their population is fully and adequately treated , no country is going to progress.

 

Do you have confidence in the Thai government to adequately manage anything, I don't.

 

The Thai government is in control of the health of the Thai population, including foreigners, and that's a scary thought.   

[Dart12]

On 7/3/2021 at 10:59 AM, robblok said:

Indeed your so right lockdowns are bad.. i mean Brazil did not do them and everything was fine there. India is also a shining example of how things should be.

 

If you think drinking beer is freedom then you do have a problem.

 

Plus like most deniers you forget about long covid that happens to 10% of the cases. Months and months of being sick and revalidating.. i mean.. lets just count only deaths so i can have my beer ????????

 

Lets also forget that the health system is about to explode and things will get a lot worse then.. But again.. not important my beer is the most important thing.

Where did I mention denial of a disease.  Covid 100% exists.

Only denial I'm seeing here is the recognizing that deaths with and without covid were exactly the same age across the board.

Where did I mention beer?  

Nowhere do I ever talk about beer...or bars even.  I believe they have a right to be open, but I don't attend those either unless it would be for some special event someone holds.

So that's another assumptive wrong tree you've barked at.

Definitely developing a pattern here of barking at everything as a threat.  

The "cure" by governments has been infinitely worse than the disease ever could have been to people.  

I believe in people's rights.  That includes you having the right to protect yourself as you see fit. 

Quit your job?  have at it.

Lock yourself in your house? have at it.

Wear 10 masks at once? have at it.

Inject yourself with an experimental drug that by definition is NOT a vaccine, and on the FDA site itself says is NOT approved...
Same drug that right now is failing FDA approval standards for injury and death if not under emergency approval? cool. You got your reasons.

Rob... it's your life, your body, do it!  It's  your right!

Never see anyone ever again? Please, if that's what you want.

What I don't agree with is stripping basic human rights that the free world fought for 100's of years to attain.

Not to:
strip people of their businesses.
Their jobs.
Their incomes,
Their ability to feed themselves
Their ability to do what our species instincts are to do, work in groups and be social.
Curfews.
Arrest people for having family over.
Arrest people for attending church.
And NOT to lock healthy people up iin pseudo jails.
Requiring people to inject themselves with drugs.
Require tracing and monitoring of your movements.


That is not your right, nor should it be the governments.  (as a guest here, I abide by what they say though.  I am a guest and respect that like I would a person's own house rules.)

All this tyranny is being sold as safety.

They write about covid as being a black plague level disease.  It's just not.

There's a fable about all this.  The emporer's new clothes.  Everyone can see plainly that the leader is wrong, but so badly don't want to be wrong...because "WHAT IF?"  that they go along.  It's easiest to go along, that it becomes group think and it must be true...

Repeat things enough and then they become "true".  Even when the truth stares you in the eyes.

Truth is, the coviid scare has become every governments wet dream to become dictatorships and enact every and any law they want to manipulate the wealth and power in the directiion they want sold on a straw man's back.

You obviously have a different opinion.  So I'll respect that, and hope you are yours are well during all this.

Cheers




 

[LongTimeLurker]

On 7/3/2021 at 4:00 AM, webfact said:

forbidding the sale and distribution of liquor from 8pm until 4am,

 

So does that mean we can now buy after 4am and not have to wait until 11am?