Ivermectin

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, papa al said:

Who would pay for a large n study.?

No one.

Pharm companies can't profit,

so not them.

NIH/CDC would look dumb with a (+) result,

so definitely not them.

Multiple studies into the effectiveness of ivermectin in treating Covid 19 have been conducted and are being conducted. 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/09/scicheck-ongoing-clinical-trials-will-decide-whether-or-not-ivermectin-is-safe-effective-for-covid-19/

 

Overall results are inconclusive.  That may change.  Until then you are experimenting with your own body by using ivermectin or any other medicine for unprescribed and unproven purposes.  I don't care if you want to do that, but you shouldn't promote such self-experimentation for others without making it clear that is what you are doing.

[Tony125]

22 hours ago, papa al said:

Done got it.

When papa got covid in July,

20mg poultry Iver cleared it up

pronto.

 

Ever think you didn't really have Covid?  Where you tested for it?   You may have had a cold or the flu and those symptoms were alliviated by the slight anti-viral affects of ivermectin.

[canthai55]

56 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

Ever think you didn't really have Covid?  Where you tested for it?   You may have had a cold or the flu and those symptoms were alliviated by the slight anti-viral affects of ivermectin.

 

On 9/13/2021 at 4:02 PM, papa al said:

Came down with the 'vid July 23.

Upper resp and eyes inflamed &c..

Took Lazada Iver 20mg.

Feeling pretty good in 2 days. 

Riding dirt bike again in  a week.

Sept.10: Antigen test was (-).

             Antibody test was (+) at >3000.

Supposedly this indicates that I have no covid now,

but did before,

and now have big time immunity.

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[Old & obese but healthy]

 

23 hours ago, papa al said:

Done got it.

When papa got covid in July,

20mg poultry Iver cleared it up

pronto.

 

Maybe read the thread

[Will B Good]

On 9/13/2021 at 10:02 AM, papa al said:

Came down with the 'vid July 23.

Upper resp and eyes inflamed &c..

Took Lazada Iver 20mg.

Feeling pretty good in 2 days. 

Riding dirt bike again in  a week.

Sept.10: Antigen test was (-).

             Antibody test was (+) at >3000.

Supposedly this indicates that I have no covid now,

but did before,

and now have big time immunity.

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[Old & obese but healthy]

Not sure what this proves....you have a weak immune system?

 

30% of people have no symptoms and take no medicines!!!!

[papa al]

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

Until then you are experimenting with your own body by using ivermectin or any other medicine for unprescribed and unproven purposes.  I don't care if you want to do that, but you shouldn't promote such self-experimentation for others without making it clear that is what you are doing.

1. Experimental vaccines way more scary.

    Safety of Iver is proven.

2. Not promoting anything bro.

    Just one old fool's perspective.

    But thanks for clarifying the obvious.

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Life is an experiment.

[papa al]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Not sure what this proves....you have a weak immune system?

////

30% of people have no symptoms and take no medicines!!!!

It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid.

Supposedly.

////

Supposedly.

Great.

[All these tests are super iffy]

The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard'

claims it can't diagnose anything.

[Tony125]

1 minute ago, papa al said:

It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid.

Supposedly.

////

Supposedly.

Great.

[All these tests are super iffy]

The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard'

claims it can't diagnose anything.

So basically you are now stating you were never tested for Covid  but you just "think"  you had it and want people to on that asumption take Ivermectin because you think it cured you of Covid, hahaha.

[Henryford]

Just saw some human ivermectin for sale on Lazada, 1500 baht for 12 tablets compared to the 50 baht for "animal" ivermectin for 100 tablets. Same drug. Someone taking the ****.

[vinci]

i never thought the cucu-for-coco-pop from America would reach Thai soil, but here they are

[Tony125]

21 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Just saw some human ivermectin for sale on Lazada, 1500 baht for 12 tablets compared to the 50 baht for "animal" ivermectin for 100 tablets. Same drug. Someone taking the ****.

It may be the same drug but the dosage (amout of Ivermectin per tab) is totaly different. That's why so many people in us are being admiited to hospitals for taking horse size dosage which is way more than the dosage for a  human.

[canthai55]

I have read no post here that says people should take Ivermectin.

People have posted the results they had when taking it.

I have read no post telling others to take it.

People need to Chill Da ---- Out

People in the USA take horse sized doses - that is not the fault of anyone but themselves. Maybe Darwin at work 'from sea to shining sea'

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, papa al said:

It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid.

Supposedly.

////

Supposedly.

Great.

[All these tests are super iffy]

The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard'

claims it can't diagnose anything.

9/11 was a false flag? Check. 

 

Apollo moon landings were faked? 

 

PCR Tests are invalid? 

 

 

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, Henryford said:

Just saw some human ivermectin for sale on Lazada, 1500 baht for 12 tablets compared to the 50 baht for "animal" ivermectin for 100 tablets. Same drug. Someone taking the ****.

Because animal doses for Ivermectin may kill you. 

[Danderman123]

On 9/13/2021 at 4:19 PM, papa al said:

Thought experiment.

Let's say that those Ivermectin believers are right:

It works.

The CDC/NIH could not approve it because

the emergency auths for the 'vaccines' are

predicated on absence of alternate treatments.

Get it?

No wonder that discussion of Iver is banned

on so many platforms.

 

Nope. There are alternative treatments for Covid, such as monoclonal antibodies and Dexamethazone. Your internet friends are lying to you. 

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, papa al said:

Who would pay for a large n study.?

No one.

Pharm companies can't profit,

so not them.

NIH/CDC would look dumb with a (+) result,

so definitely not them.

And yet there are large studies in process. 

[papa al]

5 hours ago, Tony125 said:

So basically you are now stating you were never tested for Covid  but you just "think"  you had it and want people to on that asumption take Ivermectin because you think it cured you of Covid, hahaha.

Everything you write is wrong:
1.    Papa was (+) for antibody test.

  Antibody test is presumptive for previous exposure, not definitive.

There is no definitive test for covid.

2.. Believe it would be smart to take Iver for covid,

as there is no downside,

but up to you.

   

4 hours ago, Tony125 said:

That's why so many people in us are being admiited to hospitals for taking horse size dosage which is way more than the dosage for a  human.

Zero have been admitted for or treated for Iver OD.

Never. In all history.

0.

Sheesh!

[GroveHillWanderer]

5 hours ago, papa al said:

1. Experimental vaccines way more scary.

Good job there are no experimental vaccines in use then.

 

5 hours ago, papa al said:

The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard' claims it can't diagnose anything.

The inventor of PCR testing died in 2019 and he didn't say any such thing.

 

As mentioned in the article below from fullfact.org:

 

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The author actually quotes Dr Mullis as saying “Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron” within the context of testing viral load (the amount of virus present) in people with HIV.

 

This doesn’t mean he thought PCR testing didn’t work at all, but that there are limitations in detecting the specific levels of a virus from a sample using PCR testing.

The inventor of PCR never said it wasn’t designed to detect infectious diseases

[GroveHillWanderer]

11 minutes ago, papa al said:

Zero have been admitted for or treated for Iver OD.

Never. In all history.

0.

Sheesh!

That's absolutely false. Here are just a couple of examples (there are plenty more).

 

At least two hospitalized with potential ivermectin toxicity

 

Man With COVID Overdoses on Ivermectin

[papa al]

39 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

That's absolutely false. Here are just a couple of examples (there are plenty more).

 

At least two hospitalized with potential ivermectin toxicity

 

Man With COVID Overdoses on Ivermectin

1. potential Iver toxicity on admitting;

never actually diagnosed.

2. Man took Iver and a bunch of other drugs.

5 5

[GroveHillWanderer]

14 minutes ago, papa al said:

1. potential Iver toxicity on admitting;

never actually diagnosed.

2. Man took Iver and a bunch of other drugs.

5 5

OK, if you don't like those links, there are others, as I mentioned.

 

For instance:

 

Person hospitalised after taking livestock medicine

 

Mercy doctor sees patients with Ivermectin poisoning in rural Missouri hospitals

 

As the second of those links states:

 

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National data shows Ivermectin cases are rising, with doctors seeing Ivermectin toxicity in patients in rural hospitals across Missouri.

 

[papa al]

21 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

 

Person hospitalised after taking livestock medicine

 

Mercy doctor sees patients with Ivermectin poisoning in rural Missouri hospitals

 

1. No Iver toxicity diagnosed in this case.

2. Reporting doctor : 

"Brown says Ivermectin, at the right dose, isn't harmful to humans."

Article did not really mention the ill effects of the 'high dosage' Iver.

Or what doses were.

Weak report.

Where's the beef?

[xylophone]

On 9/16/2021 at 10:48 AM, papa al said:

Done got it.

When papa got covid in July,

20mg poultry Iver cleared it up

pronto.

 

Is he laying eggs now?

[partington]

7 hours ago, papa al said:

It means my immune system build a <deleted>load of antibodies to covid.

Supposedly.

////

Supposedly.

Great.

[All these tests are super iffy]

The inventor of PCR, the 'gold standard'

claims it can't diagnose anything.

The inventor of PCR never claimed that it can't diagnose anything.

 

This is just false misrepresentation coupled with wilful ignorance. 

 

The FDA have approved countless PCR panel tests to identify all kinds of pathogens causing every type of disease including meningitis, tuberculosis, urinary tract infections, sepsis, and gastrointestinal infections. 

 

These are and have been in use way before covid, and more are being developed all the time.

These are simple verifiable facts, so stating the contrary is futile.

 

Here are just a few from many listed here

 https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/in-vitro-diagnostics/nucleic-acid-based-tests#microbial

 

Anthrax:

Bacillus Anthracis

B. anthracis Real-time PCR Assay

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

K192871

 

Bordetella (whooping cough)

AMPLIVUE BORDETELLA ASSAY

QUIDEL CORPORATION

K143206

 

Dengue

Dengue virus

CDC DENV-1-4 Real-Time RT-PCR Assay

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

K113336

 

Hepatitis C

Abbott Realtime HCV Assay

Abbott Molecular, Inc.

P100017 S001-S006, S007-S012, S014-S019

 

Multiple respiratory virus panel including flu

CDC Human Influenza Virus Real-time RT-PCR Detection and Characterization Panel

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

K080570

 

Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB)

Amplified Mycobacterium tuberculosis Direct Test

Gen-Probe, Inc.

P940034

 

Gastrointestinal disease multiplex panel to distinguish multiple pathogens including bacterial -salmonella,  viral-norovirus, and parasites-giardia, entamoeba.

xTAG Gastrointestinal Pathogen Panel (GPP)

Luminex Molecular Diagnostics, Inc.

K121894, K121454

 

Smallpox (variola virus)

Variola

Variola Virus Real-Time PCR Assay

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

DEN160016, DEN1600

[FlorC]

It's good to have some alternative in stock , especially if you're uninsured.

Selfmedicating is the only way to go.

Ivermectin is still hard to find . I did some more pharmacies , tell me to try at the hospital .

Hydroxychloroquine (sulfate) is easier to find , called Zyquenil 200 mg . 110 B for 10.

I haven't found prednisolone (a corticosteroid used to treat inflammation).

But these last two can cause serious eye problems , which Ivermectin doesn't .

 

 

 

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, papa al said:

1. Experimental vaccines way more scary.

    Safety of Iver is proven.

2. Not promoting anything bro.

    Just one old fool's perspective.

    But thanks for clarifying the obvious.

///////

Life is an experiment.

Thailand and other countries are using approved vaccines.

 

No drug is 100% safe, including ivermectin.   https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-1122/ivermectin-oral/details/list-sideeffects

 

You are taking a drug with proven side effects for an unproven purpose.

[Danderman123]

12 hours ago, FlorC said:

It's good to have some alternative in stock , especially if you're uninsured.

Selfmedicating is the only way to go.

Ivermectin is still hard to find . I did some more pharmacies , tell me to try at the hospital .

Hydroxychloroquine (sulfate) is easier to find , called Zyquenil 200 mg . 110 B for 10.

I haven't found prednisolone (a corticosteroid used to treat inflammation).

But these last two can cause serious eye problems , which Ivermectin doesn't .

 

 

 

I know where you can buy Forsythia cheap.

[FlorC]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I know where you can buy Forsythia cheap.

Forsythia ?

That's a plant.

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, FlorC said:

Forsythia ?

That's a plant.

It’s a homeopathic cure. Apparently, Big Pharma doesn’t want you to know about it. At least, that’s what Alan Krumwiede says about it.

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

unworthy of your usual standards canthai, defending the fully discredited use of Ivermectin for covid treatment. such use is indeed proven as  “stupid & dangerous” (and useless) ……. as is hanging oneself for thrills or stuffing rectums with hamsters …..though both “bring relief” they say …..yes, along with Ivermectin in the necessary massive toxic qtys to “ relieve” covid / covid symptoms,  life threatening results….but lets not mention that, eh ?

 

btw any “nobel laureate” supporting this is clearly speaking out of his field (and his rectum) or a certifiable loon , or both…….and certainly unemployable unless he has his own pseudo- science institute or book contract…

[mvdf]

On 7/23/2021 at 2:54 PM, gamb00ler said:

My wife takes thyroid hormone that costs $10 for 3 months at Walmart.  Here it's about 260฿ for 100.  The downside is that Thailand only authorizes a few dosages with rather large gaps between them.  For best results she should take 80µ grams daily.  Only 50's and 100's are available here.  We're becoming very competent pill cutters.

Just come to Phnom Penh and tell them you need so and so many bottles of those hormone pills. They'll dump the lot in front of you on the counter and ask to pay, no other questions asked.