53 minutes ago, James105 said:

That part was a joke.   I'm just grateful the UK held the line and didn't reverse course on opening up as if they had gone back to increased restriction, as was the goal of this pressure, then the "lockdown" would once again be getting credit for the virus naturally declining.    What we have instead is delicious example of how all those that claim lockdowns are the only solution have been proved completely and utterly wrong.   

I guess you forgot about vaccinations.

 

The story is that the UK eased all restrictions, cases went up, but now the virus is finding new victims difficult to come by.

27 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Disagree. The shambolic nature is because once again the idiots forecasted what they are going to do i.e. stop walkins and make it appointment only. Same thing with the workers camps in BKK which led to, accelerated or both the spread of Sars-Cov-2 to the provinces. The people on the ground there organizing things did a very good job. Unfortunately the idiots at the top have absolutely no foresight. That's where the shambles is. 

I didn't mean the efforts of local officials trying to deal with a massive unforeseen influx of walk ins. I'm talking about strategic organization on a macro, national level. There basically isn't any proper national plan worth the name. If there were, such unforeseen balls ups wouldn't occur.

28 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

Its a bit scary, isn't it?

 

For me personally:.

 

An appointment out of the blue

 

A vaccination from China

 

And the status of my importance as a foreigner a little elevated. 

 

More so after arriving this morning and given a number 691 believing on a long wait but soon fast-tracked to number 112 (then only 5 minutes more) as I was considered an important foreigner.

Really? Yes, to the extent that at my point of being pricked (Hold it there, Nurse!) I was surrounded by officials and well-wishers and many photos and even a video being made by the Military with me featuring therein.

 

I didn't like the idea of being pushed in early but...

 

The atmosphere had a very warm-feeling and the whole show seemed to be very well organised with upwards of a thousand people there.

 

My second shot of Astra Zeneca is in only three weeks

 

I have been home for about three hours (now 14.30) and no side-affects of any kind yet.

 

Good luck to all those seeking vaccination

 

If you are an anti-Vaxxer you will feel more of a pri*k than I did!

 

One question about your story.

 

If you were just now vaxxed (home for 3 hrs..) how can you have an AZ second shot in 3 weeks? The  minimum wait between AZ shots in Thailand is 12 weeks. Or, was your first shot Sinovac, followed by AZ in 3 weeks? You did mention China.

 

Thanks for your feedback. The AZ long wait problem only applies for two AZ shots.

 

 

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Why do you refuse to wear a mask? I for one would like to know.

Watched Braveheart too much....

".......you can't take my Freedom"

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

From yesterday:

 

 

https://twitter.com/ittipat_tv/status/1419869969362292738

 

The government says they're currently doing +-20,000 vaccinations per day there, vast majority being Thais, not foreigners.

 

 

 

The vast numbers of the population are Thais -- not foreigners!

1 minute ago, rabas said:

One question about your story.

 

If you were just now vaxxed (home for 3 hrs..) how can you have an AZ second shot in 3 weeks? The  minimum wait so far in Thailand is 12 weeks. Or, was your first shot Sinovac, followed by AZ in 3 weeks? You did mention China.

 

Thanks for your feedback. The AZ long wait problem only applies for two AZ shots.

 

I haven't actually seen the document itself but my wife told me ( the document is in her handbag) She is now sleeping - supporting one's husband is a tiring job.

17 August, and yes, I had a sinovac jab!

For those who would seem that I have second-best, I am happy that I have been prescribed what is appropriate for me.

2 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

i am saying the lockdowns are finishing thailand.

i am saying mexico never locked down.

 

You are willing to let 700,000 die so the economy lives.

 

Okay.. what about if 1,700,000 die? Would that be a good call?

 

at what level of mortality would you admit that lockdowns are a good thing?

Travel clampdown in Dark Red provinces; Anutin vows 1m jabs per day from Aug

 

Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha on Wednesday ordered the governors of 12 Dark-Red provinces to monitor inter-provincial travel closely to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

 

Thirteen provinces fall under the Dark-Red zone of maximum disease controls due to their high number of infections. They are Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chonburi, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Ayutthaya, Yala, Songkhla, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon. The governor of Bangkok met with the PM earlier this week.

 

More........

 

Anutin said that from August, the Public Health Ministry expects to procure 10 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine per month on average and aims to provide 1 million jabs per day.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003868

1 minute ago, ChrisKC said:

I haven't actually seen the document itself but my wife told me ( the document is in her handbag) She is now sleeping - supporting one's husband is a tiring job.

17 August, and yes, I had a sinovac jab!

For those who would seem that I have second-best, I am happy that I have been prescribed what is appropriate for me.

In a fast rising pandemic,  mixing sinovac/sinopharm with AZ is an attractive alternative to 2X AZ because waiting 12 weeks for the 2nd AZ shot can be unnerving.  At one point I had an option to get sinopharm 8 weeks before my second AZ shot. It was a toss up.

4 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

I am happy that I have been prescribed what is appropriate for me.

... happy that what was appropriately prescribed for me was a double dose of Pfizer Biotech....????????????

 

 ( although God knows where the booster is going to come from)

Jokes aside, IMHO anything is better than nothing and if I hadn't been lucky enough to be outside Thailand for a while, I'd be jumping at whatever was offered to me...

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

Indeed, the UK cases have dropped for 6 days. Is it possible that their relatively high vaccination rate is helping them?

 

anyway, the clock is ticking and in 2 weeks we will have an interim answer, in 3 weeks another check point and in 4 weeks a final conclusion.

UK testing rates have dropped significantly this last week....less testing less cases....as suggested by BJ's friend across the pond.

1 hour ago, DaveSamutP said:

Praying for the country ???????? 

Competent leadership is what's really required.

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand on Wednesday (July 28) reported 16,533 new COVID-19 cases and 133 additional deaths over the past 24 hours.

And no sign of slowing, that's just the way it's going, soon to escalate as nationwide numbers with the Delta variant start to mimmick what happened in Bangkok.

6 minutes ago, rabas said:

In a fast rising pandemic,  mixing sinovac/sinopharm with AZ is an attractive alternative to 2X AZ because waiting 12 weeks for the 2nd AZ shot can be unnerving.  At one point I had an option to get sinopharm 8 weeks before my second AZ shot. It was a toss up.

Not me. I'll wait thank you. 12 wks it is then who knows how many months after that for an mRNA booster. 

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Anutin said that from August, the Public Health Ministry expects to procure 10 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine per month on average and aims to provide 1 million jabs per day.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003868

1 million jabs a day?  In Thailand?  If we are playing that game then I aim to play for England in the next World Cup, sleep with Megan Fox, and become a billionaire. 

15 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Anutin said that from August, the Public Health Ministry expects to procure 10 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine per month on average and aims to provide 1 million jabs per day.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003868

Are there just 10 days in a Thai month?

Maybe Thailand should adopt the "do nothing" approach like they did last year which received a commendation from WHO and put them in the top 10 countries for controlling Covid !?!

1 hour ago, ourmanflint said:

I wonder how many Thai's go around saying "let's just get on with it and so what if thousands of people die"? 

The arrogance on display here at times is mind boggling. People come first, not business, and not the economy, Thailand should do all it can to protect and save as many people as it can from serious illness and death, no matter the cost to the economy as a whole.

Economies can bounce back, but they cannot bounce back without people. Those clamouring for an end to lockdowns for their own personal benefit are some seriously messed up individuals. 

 

My wife and just about everyone around here couldn't care less about what covid does or how many die from it because they are all too busy trying to survive and there is nothing they can do to stop it.You could say they could do lockdown but it's rice planting season and if they don't plant the rice they don't eat for a year and that is less important than doing a lockdown.

I don’t know if Malaysia will follow through on this, but if they do, it will be interesting to see the result of opening up from Covid restrictions whilst cases remain high and health services under extreme pressure.
 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57993617

TIMELINE: Pattaya and Banglamung informs residents who visited places in relation to most recent Covid -19 confirmed cases

 

List of places here:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/28/timeline-pattaya-and-banglamung-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases-5/

13,447 hospital walk in positive tests, a record breaking day

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/280764.pdf

 

11 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

My wife and just about everyone around here couldn't care less about what covid does or how many die from it because they are all too busy trying to survive and there is nothing they can do to stop it.You could say they could do lockdown but it's rice planting season and if they don't plant the rice they don't eat for a year and that is less important than doing a lockdown.

I don’t actually see that planting rice would infringe any Covid restrictions to be honest. I have several rai in Udon which is farmed by a neighbor on our behalf and I’m not aware that Covid has had any impact on their planting. I get a third of the crop once it’s grown, which I usually give away to my wife’s expended family. 

 

I would suggest that it is entirely possible to plant rice and remain Covid safe. 

8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

After a one day pause

I'll stop you there, do you really think the actual number of cases receded for a day and then increased?

 

Every one of these people who are reported as testing positive contracted COVID last week some time.

 

These numbers are a delayed representation of where 'they' were days ago.

 

There's no way it's not above 20k (or far higher) each day right now.

Not sure if you have ever planted rice here? We are covered from head to toe with scarves, shirts, long pants, head gear, footwear, gloves etc. We each work our rows and unless during break or eating are rarely in "contact" with another person. We are well aware of the transmission of the virus so have taken steps to avoid eating or breaking together. Bundles are dispersed by separate individuals etc. Not much chance of anyone passing on the virus, with our group anyways.

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

 

Median age is 64 (21-106 years

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1420264418064027648

 

106-21= 85. And 85/2 = 42.5  So close enough for median: 21+ 42.5 and 106 - 42.5 = 63.5  . Just using endpoint ages. You would really have to love bean counting to use all the ages. 

Another Beach Club and bar spreading the virus, this time in Koh Samui

 

Koh Samui bar and club finds 16 Covid-19 infections

 

Now the freedom from regulation on the island has come back to bite as 16 Covid-19 infections were found traced to one of the biggest clubs that has remained open. Authorities have put out an urgent plea for anyone who has attended the Black Bamboo Club in Chaweng between 16 and 26 July to report for Covid-19 testing immediately as they are at risk of exposure to the virus.

 

A warning also went out for customers of Speedy Lounge and Bar in Lamai who may have been exposed on July 16 between 9:30 pm and 10:30 pm.

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/samui/koh-samui-bar-and-club-finds-16-covid-19-infections

https://www.facebook.com/theblacksamui/

1 hour ago, ourmanflint said:

I wonder how many Thai's go around saying "let's just get on with it and so what if thousands of people die"? 

The arrogance on display here at times is mind boggling. People come first, not business, and not the economy, Thailand should do all it can to protect and save as many people as it can from serious illness and death, no matter the cost to the economy as a whole.

Walk around Pattaya, and I think you'll find the answer to your question isn't clear. Many closed shopfronts with Thais gathering out front with friends for meals.

 

Lockdowns hardly impact me personally, happy to go with the consensus. However it should be a consensus, not a few in privileged positions (wealth to ride this out) dictating to the rest. Neither of us really know what the overall sentiment is. People do come first, I agree with that. However there are people in dire economic situations, you can't hand wave away the human consequences for them. I don't have the answers, but quite sure the answer should not include the phrase 'at any cost'.

 

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Deaths and case numbers are moving upwards again.  The question is are the numbers from Phetcahbun included or not.  Guess we will have to wait until this afternoon to see the provincial breakdowns. Not buying the 56% of Bangkok's residents being vaccinated. Seems a little high to me with the numbers of vaccinations they are doing daily.

Would be interested to see the provincial figures published in English because I and many others do not read the Thai writing .

Yep send them to Thailand please

Number of unused AstraZeneca vaccines in Australia tops 3 million

“We will look back on anti-AstraZenecism as one of the greatest public health failings in many years,” Professor Dore said.

 

Margaret Harris from the World Health Organisation said Australia should give unwanted vaccines to countries that could use them.

 

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/number-of-unused-astrazeneca-vaccines-in-australia-tops-3-million-20210727-p58di3.html

Well. If it is doubling exponentially every two weeks, as the chart shows, there will be approximately 32,000 cases daily by the 11th of August, with a possible 250-300 deaths a day.

That is working with the current figures the graphs show in this article.