they removed the plaque. 

 

ain't nobody comin' back. 

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It was all over the news, did you miss it? You could also try to google it.

Don't believe everything you read in the news or on the internet. 

As previous posters have pointed out, democratic and judicial processes become seriously eroded under certain regimes to a point that they are no longer trustworthy. 

While not a huge fan of the Thaksins, the people did "vote" for them. 

Someone has to make an executive decision about whether to reluctantly allow a man of the people to return or keep on with the futility of burying 1932. Whatever his shortcomings he's landslide Larry at every election, and that terrifies them, yet they did nothing about sowing these winds of change except double down on regression!

 

But still, someone has to make a "Captains pick", or nothing changes -until it all erupts.

 

The doctors begging the US Embassy shows the endgame is fast approaching.

 

 

2 hours ago, JoePai said:

Why, he did a far better job than the present clowns

Well, to begin with, 2-3,000 extra judicial killings and also many Muslims murdered in the South...and thats before we even get into the corruption which was at an all time high under his watch...

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11 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Discussing the war on drugs properly is impossible since it involves unmentionable subjects so we cannot really go there. Choosing between Thaksin and the Junta is choosing between one that was elected and someone who cancelled democracy (however imperfect). For me the choice is a no-brainer despite all the faults and apparent corruption of the Thaksin administrations.

Agree about Thanatorn and Future Forward Party. Unfortunately both the old and new(ish) elites see them as a threat (and rightly so) and every coup just undermines any chance of Thailand developing a government interested in anything except protecting their place at the trough.

I see the difference between elected and non elected. But that does not change the facts of his corruption. So I don't see either as a choice. Lets keep it at that.

 

And yes PTP also fears future forward not just the junta.  So my support goes to them.

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I think you need to understand that I don't need you to tell me what I "need" to understand!

Why you asked then?

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There was never any restriction for him to come back to Thailand. He has Thai citizenship, he could and can return anytime.

The only thing which holds him back is the fact that he thinks he is above the law. He is not. How many years does he need to understand that simple concept?

No, the only thing which holds him back is he knows he is likely to be arrested or detained.  And even if some sort of protection was offered by the current Junta , I would not trust it if I were him.  His opinions or views on other things are not physically stopping him

21 minutes ago, BigFun said:

Well, to begin with, 2-3,000 extra judicial killings and also many Muslims murdered in the South...and thats before we even get into the corruption which was at an all time high under his watch...

Fair enough BUT he still did a better job

20 minutes ago, BigFun said:

Well, to begin with, 2-3,000 extra judicial killings and also many Muslims murdered in the South...and thats before we even get into the corruption which was at an all time high under his watch...

And the Thai death toll directly linked to COVID is approaching four thousand, if you believe the official numbers.  And a majority of those are probably due to the governments lack of response to a proper vaccination effort and unwillingness to spend money on it and quickly. And the number of deaths indirectly linked to COVID but related to COVID is probably thousands more as people are out of work and have no money for proper food and nutrition, proper health care to help with existing conditions, etc.

Yes Thaksin is corrupt

Yes he is the best option to lead Thailand out of the Covid pandemic

This is Thailand

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There was never any restriction for him to come back to Thailand. He has Thai citizenship, he could and can return anytime.

The only thing which holds him back is the fact that he thinks he is above the law. He is not. How many years does he need to understand that simple concept?

And a COE that holds everyone back????

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Exactly which part of my 3 line comment don't you understand?

I will repeat my last line in bold and big letters. Maybe that helps you reading it. If you understand it depends your intelligence.

Some people pretend it must be Prayut or Thaksin. No! Those are just two of many options.

 

Only one option, a replacement of a military govt with another military govt. 

Thaksin is corrupt.

 

So are all the other Thai prime-ministers, generals and hi-sos.

 

The difference between him and them is that he has a brain, and knows how to use it for the benefit of Thailand.  The 'rest' are just corrupt and stupid.  Thaksin is corrupt and smart - there's no chance of finding anyone in Thailand who is smart and not corrupt, so let's choose the second best option to get the country out of the mess that the current PM and government have created.

 

I hope to see Thaksin back as PM very soon ????

3 hours ago, pegman said:

At this point he or Yingluck are Thailand's best chance of getting out of this mess. 

Just like a burglar is the best chance for tidying up you home...

 

The World isn't just black or white...

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There was never any restriction for him to come back to Thailand. He has Thai citizenship, he could and can return anytime.

The only thing which holds him back is the fact that he thinks he is above the law. He is not. How many years does he need to understand that simple concept?

A typical Thai problem: he is not the only one "above the law". If the Thais would follow your "simple concept", the parliament nearly would be empty. And don't let me talk about the Thai bureaucrazy.

Compared to the military regime, Thaksin would be like a light in the end of a tunnel. Believe me, I never have been a Thaksin fan.

26 minutes ago, hanuman2543 said:

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I think you need to understand that I don't need you to tell me what I "need" to understand!

Why you asked then?

I sure didn't ask you!   I did not ask him to tell me what he thinks I "need to understand".

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why are two convicted criminals the best chance?

Are there no competent and honest people in Thailand?

Some people pretend it must be Prayut or Thaksin. No! Those are just two of many options.

Yes there are but one of the best recent prospects got slapped down pretty forcefully after the last election. Anyone who stands a chance of replacing the dinosaurs has a huge target pinned to themselves.

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why are two convicted criminals the best chance?

Are there no competent and honest people in Thailand?

Some people pretend it must be Prayut or Thaksin. No! Those are just two of many options.

Come on then, let's play pretend. You can start by naming some of these blindingly obvious, fine upstanding, public-spirited and selfless harbingers of Thailand's bright new world.

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3 hours ago, pagallim said:

I think you need to understand what the 'corruption conviction' actually was.   A piece of land, owned by the FIDF, was sold at auction, and bought by Thaksin's then wife.   The auction was legitimate, however inspite of the FIDF being previously ruled as a non-Government entity, Thaksin was charged with abuse of power in that he permitted his wife to purchase a state asset (all Thai husbands have to counter sign if their wives buy land or property).   He was convicted by a 3/2 majority by the Supreme court.   This is his only conviction, and as with Yingluck, the law was manipulated to get rid of them.

And most mob bosses in the US were only imprisoned on tax evasion...

2 hours ago, pagallim said:

I think you need to understand what the 'corruption conviction' actually was.   A piece of land, owned by the FIDF, was sold at auction, and bought by Thaksin's then wife.   The auction was legitimate, however inspite of the FIDF being previously ruled as a non-Government entity, Thaksin was charged with abuse of power in that he permitted his wife to purchase a state asset (all Thai husbands have to counter sign if their wives buy land or property).   He was convicted by a 3/2 majority by the Supreme court.   This is his only conviction, and as with Yingluck, the law was manipulated to get rid of them.

In 2020 it was reported that Thaksin received  two more convictions in absentia of two years and  three years consecutive terms for holding undeclared shares via proxies and for conflict of interest in issuing executive orders preferential to the interests of.

Those charges date back to 2008.

 

32 minutes ago, simon43 said:

The difference between him and them is that he has a brain, and knows how to use it for the benefit of Thailand.

Are you sure it's not simply a case of Thaksin needing votes to keep him in power, so he just happens to do a few good things for a certain demographic to get their vote, while the current government does not?

3 hours ago, pegman said:

At this point he or Yingluck are Thailand's best chance of getting out of this mess. 

I never thought I would end up agreeing with this comment but you are correct.

No doubt bout it.

(Says a lot about Thailand)

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Why are two convicted criminals the best chance?

Are there no competent and honest people in Thailand?

Some people pretend it must be Prayut or Thaksin. No! Those are just two of many options.

Yes

NO!

<deleted> you sound like a sour old apple. Thaksin is a million times better than what they currently have in place and you know it. Stop trying to appease the powers at be. Perhaps you work for this journal who knows but you seem salty at Thaksin and thats ok i'm a newbie i don't know no better.... Anyway, anything is better than what's in place currently and you know it and that's that. Hater

1 hour ago, djayz said:

While not a huge fan of the Thaksins, the people did "vote" for them. 

Yes, they did vote for him. But that doesn't change anything about the fact that he is a convicted criminal.

He was convicted several times because he broke the law. That has nothing to do with the fact if he was elected of not. An elected criminal is still a criminal. 

1 hour ago, Victornoir said:

If tomorrow Taksin comes to replace Prayuth we will dance in the streets like never before because he is still the first choice of the Thais.

We? Are you living somewhere in a red village?

Because a lot of people only want Thaksin back in two possible ways. Going back to jail or in a wooden box. 

2 hours ago, heiri007 said:

Why, because of some land and rice deals paling in comparison to what the junta does with the country? Make no mistake, this is still a military regime. One can only dream of the freedoms of expression enjoyed under Thaksin compared to now. Society was vocal and developing. Today everything's killed, imprisoned, ridiculed that's against the chosen few. There is not much left of the Thailand I once respected, enjoyed and loved.

Absolutely spot on. They have destroyed alot of what made Thailand appealing, with their toxic brand of fake puritanism, their lies, their deceit, their larceny, and their inability to even provide a modest quality of life for the masses. 

 

Make no mistake, all of this will be blamed on Covid. And we have to put the blame squarely on their tiny shoulders. Much degradation was taking place long before Covid, and the degree to which they have bungled every aspect of Covid 

give it a break will ya .......      it's over. finished ... gone ....kaput    !

43 minutes ago, puck2 said:

Compared to the military regime, Thaksin would be like a light in the end of a tunnel.