Thailand eases COVID-19 restrictions - but only for people who are vaccinated

[248900_1469958220]

If you are vaccinated but, I am not, what risk do I pose to you? If you are vaccinated BUT are still able to catch and spread the virus to me.....what use is your being vaccinated to me, in relation to stopping the spread to me? The vaccine seems a bit like a treatment, it stops YOU from dying... or getting very sick, or so they say. Ok, I will go with that,. Therefore, I have no problem with you getting a vaccine. If you are vaccinated then great, the vaccines work right? So....whats the problem? 

 

Similar levels of virus.....mmmmmmm......sounds 'catching' 

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-infection-unvaccinated-and-vaccinated-people-have-similar-levels-of-virus#Delta

 

[tonray]

Wait...so I have to be fully vaccinated (only 1 shot so far) and get a negative Covid test result before I can get a haircut or a cheeseburger ?

[BE88]

 It is a truly hopeless case, but is there still anyone who still has a brain that works at least partially?

 

 

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Dogmatix said:

How does being vaccinated help when vaccinated people can still get infected and spread the virus about as easily as the unvaccinated, even if they don't get so sick.

I think in principle the idea is to keep vaccinated seperated from unvaccinated 

 

If anyone was expection anything remotely sensible today - you should know better.

 

I am not sure they are referring to an actual Green/yellow card, the logistics of such a thing are huge, when people are vaxed they will get a hospital cert stating that fact, not that that contributes to any of this.

 

we also have the issue of effective vaccines - it could be argued that one dose of AZ or Pfizer is hyst as effective as 2x sinovac jabs - something that has already been established when you look at requiements to enter Phuket - all rather confusing when they establish different standards for pretty much the same thing in different parts of the country.

 

I think they are going to have to fine tune this a little for consistency throughout the country

[csmith]

CCSA …. Deserve some praise for doing these video updates in English …. 
…. Many Thanks

 

 

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[fondue zoo]

4 minutes ago, tonray said:

Wait...so I have to be fully vaccinated (only 1 shot so far) and get a negative Covid test result before I can get a haircut or a cheeseburger ?

You can only choose one....   a haircut or a cheeseburger      I thinks that's right, right?

[tonray]

Just now, fondue zoo said:

You can only choose one....   a haircut or a cheeseburger      I thinks that's right, right?

I'm going with the burger

[madmen]

2 hours ago, JayClay said:

This will end badly.

Sure it will but only for the unvaccinated and anti vaxers 

[Kadilo]

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I know 4,000,000 people who would disagree with you, but they are dead. From Covid. 

 

Ever hear of Long Covid? 

You ever hear of jobless, homeless, penniless, mental health, suicides, desperation and families being ripped apart. 
 

The Thai people don’t get handouts to keep all these things at bay.
The positives supposed to outweigh the negatives and for some foreigners happily watching the pension come rolling in every month sitting on a PC all day telling the Thai government what they should and shouldnt do, they still probably do. 
 

For the real people of the country, the ones that matter, it’s time to give them their freedom and an opportunity  to rebuild their lives,  piece by piece and that is what is happening whether you like it or not. 
 

 

[garygooner]

Proof of vaccines or negative tests are for 'high risk' places. What are the 'high risk' places?? Surely not, stores, 7/11s, supermarkets, hair salons, restaurants. 

High risk perhaps means 'bars & clubs' when they can open again later!  But, who knows, unclear info as always!! 

 

[Hockeybik]

Don't worry boys this is only the first float. It'll all be different by the weekend.

[poskat]

so with this plan, businesses get to shoulder the fixed costs of being open with 92% of the population unable to go to them

 

I dont think they could have come up with a more economically stupid idea if they tried

 

wait...what was that?? I think I just heard the PM say "ok...hold my beer..."

[poskat]

2 minutes ago, BE88 said:

They are just following the health pass rules of western countries who established these idiotic rules and want to be the first idiots in Asean

 

except in those countries, vaccines are available on every corner, and the unvaxxed are by choice

[smedly]

19 minutes ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

If you are vaccinated but, I am not, what risk do I pose to you? If you are vaccinated BUT are still able to catch and spread the virus to me

here is the risk ratio 248900-1469958220 but I think you knew already

[Dart12]

27 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I know 4,000,000 people who would disagree with you, but they are dead. From Covid. 

 

Ever hear of Long Covid? 

 

Relabeling deaths from one cause to another doesn't create more death.

 

Attached is government data on death age from / with covid.

 

These ages are actually higher than precovid , meaning avg living was longer.

 

Math can be your friend.... If you look at ALL numbers to solve the equation and not just pick one number out with zero context.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by Dart12

[248900_1469958220]

Just now, smedly said:

here is the risk ratio 248900-1469958220 but I think you knew already

That's a nice number. I always knew it held some significance. 

[Olmate]

8 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

You ever hear of jobless, homeless, penniless, mental health, suicides, desperation and families being ripped apart. 
 

The Thai people don’t get handouts to keep all these things at bay.
The positives supposed to outweigh the negatives and for some foreigners happily watching the pension come rolling in every month sitting on a PC all day telling the Thai government what they should and shouldnt do, they still probably do. 
 

For the real people of the country, the ones that matter, it’s time to give them their freedom and an opportunity  to rebuild their lives,  piece by piece and that is what is happening whether you like it or not. 
 

 

As Bert used to say"I like the boy"! 

[bkk6060]

Green Card:

 

My friend is fully vaxed.  There is a QR code symbol at the top right corner of her vaccine certificate from the hospital.  If you scan it on Line App, a green bordered page comes up showing the name, dates, lot numbers, and type of vaccine.  Just put it in the "keep" file on Line app. for future viewing.

Edited August 27, 2021 by bkk6060

[moogradod]

19 minutes ago, tonray said:

Wait...so I have to be fully vaccinated (only 1 shot so far) and get a negative Covid test result before I can get a haircut or a cheeseburger ?

Nobody did answer my easy questions in my first post above. Is this because nobody does understand it either or they cannot believe what they think they understood ? There seems to be the tendency that this is all useless for about 90% of the population. But I am not sure if this would be true. And what the heck is this "Green Card" it is referred to ? I did not get any card when I was jabbed neither was I informed that I ever would. Had to ask them even to put a record in my yellow vaccination booklet - they just wrote "Astrazeneca".

 

Maybe I can order my Printer Ink with Grab if I show them what I want exactly ? Only the passport photos ..... mmmmmhh

[smedly]

3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Green Card:

 

My friend is fully vaxed.  There is a QR code symbol at the top right corner of her vaccine certificate from the hospital.  If you scan it on Line App, a green bordered page comes up showing the name, dates lot numbers, and type of vaccine.

nice one thx for the info

[JayClay]

22 minutes ago, madmen said:

Sure it will but only for the unvaccinated and anti vaxers 

Interesting use of the word "only" there...

[connda]

Asked the wife tonight - "Well sweetie.  Considering we now can not get a vaccine (no less being fully vaccinated) which will in turn turn us into societal lepers who will not be allowed to shop in Big C, Tesco, or Marko in the Big City - then what do we do?

Wife:  "Shop somewhere else."  She is a pragmatic gal.

[Rimmer]

Conspiracy troll post and replies removed

[madmen]

There are only hard choices here. 

They can continue the endless rounds of restrictions and lockdowns. Open the country right up with zero restrictions or start to introduce what a lot of the world will eventually anyway. 

 

The first 2 options are crazy. 

Sure they should have had vaccinated everyone one already but they didn't and pointless arguing about it. The upper and middle class have mostly purchased jabs or will do on this news 

 

As usuall it's the poor lower class that will be punished, 

 

[moogradod]

6 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Green Card:

 

My friend is fully vaxed.  There is a QR code symbol at the top right corner of her vaccine certificate from the hospital.  If you scan it on Line App, a green bordered page comes up showing the name, dates, lot numbers, and type of vaccine.  Just put it in the "keep" file on Line app. for future viewing.

Thank you !! Although I have no line app and never will. Anyway my second jab is end of October. Until then I am only half vaxed anyway.

[BE88]

16 minutes ago, poskat said:

except in those countries, vaccines are available on every corner, and the unvaxxed are by choice

Right and this system works so well that Denmark suppresses it from September 1st and Thailand proves that it always has a late train.

[tonray]

5 minutes ago, moogradod said:

Thank you !! Although I have no line app and never will. Anyway my second jab is end of October. Until then I am only half vaxed anyway.

You can scan QR code with any camera app...including just your phone camera

[moogradod]

3 minutes ago, tonray said:

You can scan QR code with any camera app...including just your phone camera

Thanks.

 

My appointment slip for the second shot carries a big QR code, too. Maybe I scan this one and see what happens.

Edited August 27, 2021 by moogradod

[Danderman123]

31 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

You ever hear of jobless, homeless, penniless, mental health, suicides, desperation and families being ripped apart. 
 

The Thai people don’t get handouts to keep all these things at bay.
The positives supposed to outweigh the negatives and for some foreigners happily watching the pension come rolling in every month sitting on a PC all day telling the Thai government what they should and shouldnt do, they still probably do. 
 

For the real people of the country, the ones that matter, it’s time to give them their freedom and an opportunity  to rebuild their lives,  piece by piece and that is what is happening whether you like it or not. 
 

 

So, you don't mind if the virus runs free and kills 100,000+, as long as your bar can open... 

[Danderman123]

28 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

 

Relabeling deaths from one cause to another doesn't create more death.

 

Attached is government data on death age from / with covid.

 

These ages are actually higher than precovid , meaning avg living was longer.

 

Math can be your friend.... If you look at ALL numbers to solve the equation and not just pick one number out with zero context.

 

 

Your data is obsolete. 

 

You don't understand the concept of excess mortality.